Doubt I'm being a coward by avoiding the draft.
More like I dint give 2 shits about living here. I could live most anywhere in the world, Australia and England seem nice, along with Canada....
Why would I put my risk and my future familys wellbeing on some war that I most likely won't give 2 shits about either.
Doubt I'm a fuckin coward, I'm just not brainless

 

Originally Posted by Deoxyribo

Doubt I'm being a coward by avoiding the draft.
More like I dint give 2 shits about living here. I could live most anywhere in the world, Australia and England seem nice, along with Canada....
Why would I put my risk and my future familys wellbeing on some war that I most likely won't give 2 shits about either.
Doubt I'm a fuckin coward, I'm just not brainless

ironic you say so, Australia and England are only countries at the very moment cuz we saved them from fascism, and by we i mean american and canadian men and women who either volunteered or were drafted to go fight to defend their families and their country. WE as americans are the luckiest people in the world, we have everything we could possibly need to live and be mostly happy. we have cars, jobs, houses, we dont get robbed every day, your girlfriend/wife isnt taken and sold into prostitution, and we dont get bombed and killed just cuz people dont agree with our beliefs (as much as other countries). your kids (future kids cuz you look 17) will have an education and will be able to always get medical help whenever they need it. but you take all that stuff for granted. No one wants to get drafted, if they did they would have volunteered. but when the country that has given you everything you have, everything your parents had, asks you to step up and return the favor, youre gonna run? grow some fucking balls, the rest of the people who said they'd dodge im not cool with either, but when you put "more like i dont give 2 shits about living here" it makes me sick. good luck moving to england, people there have always fought to defend their country, and its an island so you cant run when they ask. france sounds to me like a perfect place for you, generally its a country full of pussies, so you'd fit right in. the only good news is that if we ever did need to draft, it would probably be in a war against china, and i pray to god if they do invade they invade whatever part of California youre in, and when they do, dont run to alabama. cowards/pussies arent welcome here.

GTFO. end rant

basics is right
tl;dr

After 3 pages I am surprised no has has mentions torture specialist. I always wanted to get paid to stick bamboo shoots in finger nails, waterboard and all that fun stuff we have seen in the saw movies. Maybe i am just sick bust this seems like fun. Oh well I guess I just have to wait for world war 3 and Hope I am still young enough to get drafted. By the way I am only half seriuous the other half of me is really drunk right now. :)

 

Originally Posted by Deoxyribo

serving ur country is very honorable and respectful
however, being FORCED to serve ur country when you dont wont to is not honorable.
i apologize if thats how it sounded, i have a ton of respect for those who willingly serve their country.
its just not for me, and i will not do it. not because im a coward, but because, i dont want to.

I'm sure you would have fun in the military.

All depends on what the draft was for. China on the doorstep, sign me up. go make Iraq a democracy, no thanks

It really is a shame that those who say "no way in hell I LET myself get drafted", weren't born in a country that requires a mandatorymilitary service period after high school. I'd love to see how they handled that little inconvenience to their future.

 

Originally Posted by dolphin13

I think it all just depends on the circumstances onem. I think a lot of people picture vietnam when they think of a draft. Or they think about what we did in Iraq.

I think if Russians or Chinese were invading the U.S. the results would be different from people.

I'd join the Wolverines.

well duh. but this is a hypothetical thread where no details are given yet people are freaking out left and right when people say they'd dodge a draft.

Right or wrong, when people think draft they think fighting a pointless combat action in Vietnam, not saving the world from Hitler.

 

Originally Posted by dolphin13

well duh. but this is a hypothetical thread where no details are given yet people are freaking out left and right when people say they'd dodge a draft.

Right or wrong, when people think draft they think fighting a pointless combat action in Vietnam, not saving the world from Hitler.

if there was ever a draft, it would mean that the shit has hit the fan, but i can see how that wasnt clear, however it was merely a question about jobs in the military, those "dodgers" could've just said "make me a cook" or a mechanic or something like that, had no idea that this question would spark up people's patriotism. but god bless america

 

Originally Posted by wantagolf

God, Guns and Government seems to do that around these parts.

Don't forget Emma Watson...

 

Originally Posted by wantagolf

I'm sure you would have fun in the military.

Well, at least I like this! What do they do? Whatever it is that's what I'd sign up for.

I'd sign up for Intelligence if drafted.

Not from Intelligence? I believe we are still exempt from nuclear stuff, though.

 

Originally Posted by Seykota

Not from Intelligence? I believe we are still exempt from nuclear stuff, though.

Not anymore.

The first women to serve on U.S. Navy submarines are expected to be on the job by fall of 2011, Navy officials said Thursday, ushering in a policy change to what has been an elite service open only to men since the start of the modern Navy's submarine program.

While Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced the change last month, the Navy had to wait for Congress to review and approve the policy change over a 30-day period which ended at midnight Thursday morning.
The official announcement came later Thursday from the commander of Submarine Group 10, Rear Adm. Barry Bruner, during a news conference at the Navy submarine base at Kings Bay, Georgia.

The first women chosen for the program will be selected by the Navy among upcoming graduates from the Naval Academy, the collegiate Reserves Officer Training Corps -- also known as ROTC -- and officer candidate schools.
Those women will go through the intensive 15-month submarine officer training program, which includes nuclear power school, submarine training, and the Submarine Officer Basic Course.

The Navy will implement the policy change by assigning three female officers to eight different crews of guided-missile attack and ballistic-missile submarines. The assignments involve two submarines on the East Coast and two on the West Coast, according to Navy officials.

Smaller, fast-attack submarines are considered to be too small to accommodate the necessary infrastructure change in living quarters that is possible on the larger subs, Navy officials explained.
Integrating female officers into the submarine squadrons is the first phase of the policy change. Including female enlisted sailors into the crews will take place in a second phase in the coming years, the officials said.
Women joined the crews of the Navy's surface ships in 1994, but officials had previously cited limited privacy and the cost of reconfiguring the vessels in arguing against their joining sub crews.

The change in policy was recommended by the top naval officer, Adm. Gary Roughead; the secretary of the Navy, Ray Mabus; and Gates. No Navy leaders opposed the plan, officials said.
"The young women that have come up to me since we announced our intention to change the policy have such great enthusiasm," Roughead said in a statement Thursday.

"There are extremely capable women in the Navy who have the talent and desire to succeed in the submarine force," Mabus added in the same statement.
Women make up 15 percent of the active duty Navy: 52,446 of 330,700 sailors in the service, according to Navy statistics.

Female sailors still cannot serve in the elite SEAL program, because those are considered frontline combat unit positions. Similar regulations in the other branches of the military also prevent women from serving in combat positions.

The only place they cant serve anymore. hahaha

Yes. They always have an Intel Officer and 2-4 IS's that deploy with them.