Does evil exist?

The university professor challenged his students with this question. Did God create everything that exists? A student bravely replied yes, he did!"

"God created everything?" The professor asked.

"Yes, sir," the student replied.


The professor answered, "If God created everything, then God created evil since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works define who we are then God is evil."
The student became quiet before such an answer. The professor was quite pleased with himself and boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.


Another student raised his hand and said, "Can I ask you a question professor?" "Of course", replied the professor.


The student stood up and asked, "Professor, does cold exist?"


"What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never been cold?" The students snickered at the young man's question.


The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Everybody and every object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (- 460 degrees F) is the total absence of heat; all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have too little heat.


The student continued. "Professor, does darkness exist?"


The professor responded, "Of course it does".


The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact we can use Newton's prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present."


Finally the young man asked the professor. "Sir, does evil exist?"


Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course as I have already said. We see it every day. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. "These manifestations are nothing else but evil."


To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is not like faith, or love, that exist just as does light and heat. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light."


The professor sat down.


The young mans name - Albert Einstein

edit: i posted this somewhere on pg 12 i think:

just to clear somethings out:

1. i am not "religious."
2. do i believe in god? yes, i believe there is a higher being. do i have proof? no, but neither do the people that say there isn't a god.
3. did i mean to stir things up? no. should i have done a lot more research on who actually wrote this? absolutely. i rushed this obv, i read it and thought it was cool and believed it was einstein (even though some people are saying it is or it absolutely isn't).
4. do i deserved being called "just another christian moron trying to throw this BS at us?" sure, i was never specific in the OP on what my intentions or direction i wanted this thread to go. so for that, my apologies.

i also tried and answer some questions asked by some posters by using the bible as i thought it was appropriate, but please don't confuse me with being a religious clown...well a clown sure, but not religious :)

but i have enjoyed reading the replies, lots of interesting people itt.

had a lesson on this in my metaphysics class back in spring

 

Originally Posted by smcrawford2

there is next to no chance this is real.

whether it's real or not sir, the fact this person combated the existence of god by using science is sfawesome. god is the god of everything: arts, math, science, etc. etc. the fact that many christians do not realize this and choose not to use science within their arguments baffles me. science + religion go hand in hand.

Evil is simply the absence of God.

by dogma god is everywhere and everything, so this statment contradicts itself.

 

Originally Posted by Bong BrOke

Seems like some religious freak tried to trick people into thinking a genius could believe in religion.

lol wp sir

 

Originally Posted by Bong BrOke

Seems like some church freak tried to trick people into thinking a genius could believe in religion.

einstein did believe in god, at least to some extent. he didn't embrace quantum physics because, to paraphrase, "god doesn't play dice".

 

Originally Posted by Camz2895

 

Originally Posted by erickmarroquin

whether it's real or not sir, the fact this person combated the existence of god by using science is sfawesome. god is the god of everything: arts, math, science, etc. etc. the fact that many christians do not realize this and choose not to use science within their arguments baffles me. science + religion go hand in hand.

ily erick

FYP

 

Originally Posted by sol160

 

Originally Posted by erickmarroquin

 

Originally Posted by sol160

Evil is simply the absence of God.

by dogma god is everywhere and everything, so this statment contradicts itself.

where does it officially say god is a religion? and when did god say he was?

so you are saying god is not all powerful?

god himself says he is all powerful in the bible sir, man is what makes god look unfair & merciless and twists his word for their own personal vendetta against him and his word.

 

Originally Posted by TheDeparted 1

 

Originally Posted by smcrawford2

there is no chance i read this.

me either ^

me neither, this twaddle showed up in my inbox about 12 months ago on my moms yearly quest to get me to see the light.

 

Originally Posted by smcrawford2

 

Originally Posted by Bong BrOke

Seems like some church freak tried to trick people into thinking a genius could believe in religion.

einstein did believe in god, at least to some extent. he didn't embrace quantum physics because, to paraphrase, "god doesn't play dice".

The god Einstein believed in was unlike 99% of the gods believed in by the majority of people at his time and today. So if the religious wanna claim Einstein believed in god, fine, just know that his god was one that many atheists/agnostics/non theists don't have any sort of problem with. It wasn't some magic man in the sky that intervened with the world and answered people's prayers.

 

Originally Posted by erickmarroquin

 

Originally Posted by marinersheep

God = good

Lucifer = evil

If Lucifer exists, then evil exists. So this fake Einstein argument really holds no merit. It's not just the absense of God.

but the name lucifer itself does not mean evil, it stands for morning star, the bearer of light. his greed and jealousy of god turned him into satan = evil, not god.

I thought Lucifer = Satan?

 

Originally Posted by erickmarroquin

 

Originally Posted by sol160

 

Originally Posted by erickmarroquin

 

Originally Posted by sol160

Evil is simply the absence of God.

by dogma god is everywhere and everything, so this statment contradicts itself.

where does it officially say god is a religion? and when did god say he was?

so you are saying god is not all powerful?

god himself says he is all powerful in the bible sir, man is what makes god look unfair & merciless and twists his word for their own personal vendetta against him and his word.

so i guess you are saying he is all powerful, if he is it would be impossible to be any absence of him.

LOL so the student used conclusive scientific proof to show that cold and darkness only exist as the absence of heat and light respectfully. That's all very good because these are tangible things, you can observe particles of light and you can measure heat as energy and cold is just an absence of energy.

So then the student decides to bring the concept of evil up, something that doesn't exist physically and link it his previous examples even though they have no relation whatsoever? wtf?? How do you know good isn't the absence of evil?

If you wanna discuss religion fine, make a good argument and use your own brain. Don't copy and paste ridiculous anecdotes from your inbox that don't prove anything at all.

 

Originally Posted by erickmarroquin

Lucifer was his Heavenly name, Satan after his downfall. Obv they are same entity, but god did not create Satan, Lucifer created it by going against god. if that makes sense :)

Did God create Lucifer? I'm so confused.

 

Originally Posted by pauliewlnuts

 

Originally Posted by smcrawford2

 

Originally Posted by Bong BrOke

Seems like some church freak tried to trick people into thinking a genius could believe in religion.

einstein did believe in god, at least to some extent. he didn't embrace quantum physics because, to paraphrase, "god doesn't play dice".

The god Einstein believed in was unlike 99% of the gods believed in by the majority of people at his time and today. So if the religious wanna claim Einstein believed in god, fine, just know that his god was one that many atheists/agnostics/non theists don't have any sort of problem with. It wasn't some magic man in the sky that intervened with the world and answered people's prayers.

sigh