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I know that oil is at a very low point leading to inexpensive gasoline (currently) but I am not convinced it will be there very long. Several months ago when gas was damn near $5/gallon and it spurned action to accellerate the development of a more fuel efficient or non-petrochemical car, I thought the big 3 automakers would be at the forfront. After all, if you could produce a car, no an SUV(everyone wants one of those) that got say 50mpg or ran 400 miles on a non-petrolium fuel source and had power, you would not be able to build them fast enough (as long as they did not cost 100K). Imagine the same technology in a family sedan.
Anyway, I found this article about in the NY Times concerning Neil Young's quest to win the Progressive Insurance Xprize for developing a 100mph vehicle. This statement mad me sad:
"Merely trying to produce a 100-miles-per-gallon vehicle is challenging enough, but the Goodwin-Young team intends to win the Automotive X Prize. More than 100 teams around the country, from well-financed electric-car startups to a high school science class, have expressed interest in competing for the prize, which is run by the same foundation that in 2004 awarded $10 million to the first team to send a piloted civilian aircraft to the edge of space. Even the big automakers may enter, although none have yet done so."
Where are they spending all of billions of dollars they are bleeding. I know that other companies (Mercedes, BMW, Honda, Toyota) are all working on alternatives (although they are not entered either), and I am not saying that the big 3 are not, but it makes me wonder. It seems like all they try to do is marketing and band aids (hybrids). I do not believe that an Caddy Escelade Hybrid that gets 21mpg is much better than the non hybrid that gets 18mph. Hell, I just got a Chevy Malibu (company car) and it gets an average of 27mph. The hybrid was 4K more and got an average of 30mph.
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Big Three auto CEOs flew private jets to ask for taxpayer money
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(CNN) -- Some lawmakers lashed out at the CEOs of the Big Three auto companies Wednesday for flying private jets to Washington to request taxpayer bailout money.

Chrysler CEO Robert Nardelli, left, and Ford CEO Alan Mulally testify on Capitol Hill on Wednesday.

"There is a delicious irony in seeing private luxury jets flying into Washington, D.C., and people coming off of them with tin cups in their hand, saying that they're going to be trimming down and streamlining their businesses," Rep. Gary Ackerman, D-New York, told the chief executive officers of Ford, Chrysler and General Motors at a hearing of the House Financial Services Committee.
"It's almost like seeing a guy show up at the soup kitchen in high hat and tuxedo. It kind of makes you a little bit suspicious."
He added, "couldn't you all have downgraded to first class or jet-pooled or something to get here? It would have at least sent a message that you do get it."
The executives -- Alan Mulally of Ford, Robert Nardelli of Chrysler and Richard Wagoner of GM -- were seeking support for a $25 billion loan package. Later Wednesday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid reversed plans to hold a test vote on the measure.
An aide told CNN that Reid decided to cancel the test vote when it became clear the measure would fall well short of the 60 votes needed. Reid did, however, make a procedural move that could allow a vote on a compromise, which several senators from auto-producing states were feverishly trying to craft.
At Wednesday's hearing, Rep. Brad Sherman, D-California, pressed the private-jet issue, asking the three CEOs to "raise their hand if they flew here commercial."
"Let the record show, no hands went up," Sherman said. "Second, I'm going to ask you to raise your hand if you are planning to sell your jet in place now and fly back commercial. Let the record show, no hands went up."
The executives did not specifically respond to those remarks. In their testimony, they said they are streamlining business operations in general. <span>
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When contacted by CNN, the three auto companies defended the CEOs' travel as standard procedure.
Like many other major corporations, all three have policies requiring their CEOs to travel in private jets for safety reasons.
"Making a big to-do about this when issues vital to the jobs of millions of Americans are being discussed in Washington is diverting attention away from a critical debate that will determine the future health of the auto industry and the American economy," GM spokesman Tom Wilkinson said in a statement.
Chrysler spokeswoman Lori McTavish said in a statement, "while always being mindful of company costs, all business travel requires the highest standard of safety for all employees."
Ford spokeswoman Kelli Felker pointed to the company's travel policy and did not provide a statement elaborating.

He confronted GM in "Roger and Me," hear how he feels about the possible bailout.

But those statements did little to mollify the critics.
"If it is simply the company's money at stake, then only the shareholders can be upset or feel as it might be excessive," said Thomas Schatz, president of the watchdog group Citizens Against Government Waste.
But in this case, he said, "it's outrageous."
"They're coming to Washington to beg the taxpayers to help them. It's unseemly to be running around on a $20,000 flight versus a $500 round trip," Schatz added. iReport.com: Should the Big Three be bailed out?
The companies did not disclose how much the flights cost.
Analysts contacted by CNN noted that the prices vary with the size of the plane and the crew, and whether the aircraft is leased or owned by the company.
Analyst Richard Aboulafia of the Teal Group said that $20,000 is a legitimate ballpark figure for a round trip corporate jet flight between Detroit, Michigan, and Washington.
When asked whether they plan to change their travel policies as part of the restructuring needed to shore up their finances, none of the companies answered directly. But they said they have cut back on travel in general as revenues have fallen. -
everytime I see the words automakers in america failed all I see is a bunch of fucking union idiots fucking over the company that feeds them
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GM has a partnership with Coskata to produce biomass fuels. This company has been able to actually produce biomass fuels efficiently.
www.coskata.com
GM will also be offering their electric car in 2010/2011. They've got a bunch of prototypes on the roads now in end stage testing. -
This made me laugh for some reason:

Economic Snapshot: Why the Big Three CEOs Failed to Secure a Bailout
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</td></tr></tbody></table> Why did the Big 3 CEOs -- Rick Wagoner of General Motors (GM), Alan Mulally of Ford (F) and Robert Nardelli of Chrysler -- fail to secure a bailout on Capitol Hill yesterday? Good question. We could tell you ourselves, but we’d rather let the reaction to their testimony by incredulous legislators paint the picture.
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It makes me sick that the UAW thinks they have done enough to save the company that feeds them.. I read an earlier post that they made concessions on heath care BS. The company will fund the health care and the UAW will manage it. Going to be funny when the UAW is asking their members to start paying into something they have been getting for free..
I believe in true Unions not corperate BULLSHIT lazy unions. Many of the workers of the UAW would be benched in a real union for emabarresing their BA.
In NJ those shit sticks worked at a plant that was going to close a division that made parts for one of the big 3. The company decieded to give the parts supply co to the workers who increased production over 100%.. After appointing their own board made up of union workers the board decieded to re invest their profits. The workers did not like that and productivity slumped causing the comapny to fold..
It is time they all lost their jobs and went out into the real world to see what they are missing... They have been the shit stains of the USA for far too long... I know others will fail in their wake... sorry... start over and rehire the shitums that started this..didn't think so.. -
seykota,
I hope you sold that goldman sachs you bought at 120. Look out below.











