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congress already passed laws this year against genetic discrimination
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I'd give everything I own for this to have come out 2 years earlier...(best friend)
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Then you should try to recommend a guidline of each family should have maximum 3 kids or something...u dont stop cancer research.
Originally Posted by jdsas
Please understand, losing my grandmother, my stepmother to long battles with cancer was devestating to me and my family. In the scope of world population tho, no one else cares whether they lived or died. The birth rate is beating the death rate annually. We are not creating more natural resources along with everyones longer life.
Also, am i saying animals>humans? no. I am saying animals need not be fodder for medicinal whimsy.
I am not being insensitive to individuals trials and personal tragedy. I am stepping back and looking at this development from a global position.
and LOL @ saying animals shouldnt be used for testing. seriously??? -
To remain consistent. Yes I am serious. Animal testing is unethical. I am also against fertility treatment. 65 year old women should not be having twins so they have someone to leave their goats to.
Originally Posted by Ship Happens
Then you should try to recommend a guidline of each family should have maximum 3 kids or something...u dont stop cancer research.Originally Posted by jdsas
Please understand, losing my grandmother, my stepmother to long battles with cancer was devestating to me and my family. In the scope of world population tho, no one else cares whether they lived or died. The birth rate is beating the death rate annually. We are not creating more natural resources along with everyones longer life.
Also, am i saying animals>humans? no. I am saying animals need not be fodder for medicinal whimsy.
I am not being insensitive to individuals trials and personal tragedy. I am stepping back and looking at this development from a global position.
and LOL @ saying animals shouldnt be used for testing. seriously???
I know this is not popular thinking. Whatever. I have thick skin. IF you want to have a heated, reasonable dialogue and disagree with me, I encourage you. "STFU and GTFO" won't get much of a reply. -
This thread needs Brian's input.
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watching now, will report back.
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My wife works in a cancer ward currently, Cancer is a multi TRILLION dollar a year business, My wife thinks and I tend to agree there has been a cure for years but never released, there is no bigger moneymaker for the govt than tobacco.
Money for wars, population control.
If this is true and not a level, The wife would be very happy to not treat patients to a helping of kimo anymore. -
basically this guy starting playing with radio waves with expensive equipment set up in his garage (fucking crazy). Obviously radio waves are harmless to humans, being that we are exposed to them frequently. The key to his study is that radio waves can be used to heat metal to extreme temperatures.
His initial experiment he used a hotdog injected with a liquid form of some type of metal. The metal was only injected into one end of the dog. Next the wiener was placed in the area where it can be introduced to the radio waves. After a few minutes using a temperature probe, then end with the metal was heated to high temperatures, while the opposite end was still cool. The point of this was to prove that the heat will only affect the isolated area and have no side effect on the rest of the hotdog, person, body, animal....
As tested so far, if there is an external or large obvious tumour it can be injected and treated in under 2 minutes. This has been done on lab rats. The only problem with this is alot of cancer is internal, and serious cases are spread throughout several areas of the body.
The next break through in the research was teaming up with the nobel prize winner who discovered carbon nano-particals. Basically the theory is to flood the blood stream with these nano metalic particals. In theory (I didn't quite catch why) the particals will only attatch to the cancer cells. The patient is then exposed to the radio waves thus heating only these cancerous cells and destroying them.
They didn't go into detail as to what happens to the nano-particals after cell destruction (the metal they used in this theory was gold), Im wondering how your body disposes of the unwanted metalic garbage afterwards. Anyways the research is still undergoing testing and is at least 4 years away.
The sad part is our hero, the homemade scientist is a cancer victim himself and may not live to see his amazing discovering actually cure someone. He is currently doing everything to promote his research, hoping to speed the research up through donations and other types of funding.
Great story. How much money do you think we could raise on pocketfives to support his research? Would be an amazing cause to help. -
Unless he decides to test it on himself. He very well may be the first patient.
Originally Posted by Camronius
The sad part is our hero, the homemade scientist is a cancer victim himself and may not live to see his amazing discovering actually cure someone. He is currently doing everything to promote his research, hoping to speed the research up through donations and other types of funding. -
i really hope that this isn't true but i have thought for some time that it may be.
Originally Posted by tmleafs1967
My wife works in a cancer ward currently, Cancer is a multi TRILLION dollar a year business, My wife thinks and I tend to agree there has been a cure for years but never released, there is no bigger moneymaker for the govt than tobacco.
Money for wars, population control.
If this is true and not a level, The wife would be very happy to not treat patients to a helping of kimo anymore. -
Well this is great news... but supposedly some clinics in Mexico have been curing cancer for years.. all natural too...
Kajun $endz -
I know a guy who cured himself of Lymphoma and has been in remission for over 5 years.
He was told by American doctors that there was nothing they could do for him, and that he would certainly be dead within 12 months of his diagnosis... and that any type of treatment they could give him would only lessen the quality of whatever time he had left.
He went on a very strict diet, mainly vegetable juice... carrots, beets, romaine lettuce.... all kinds of shit. He also had to starve his body of glucose, nearly all forms of cancer cells need glucose to grow.
There are alternative treatments out there that have been PROVEN much more effective than chemo/whatever other forms of battery acid the drug companies come up with.
I know that if i'm ever given any type of cancer diagnosis, I won't be walking away from an American chemo treatment plan... I'll run as fast as I can.
www.cancertutor.com -
obv this is great since alot of my family died from this disease but when I think about it, is this really good? Maybe there is a reason cancer is here to keep the amount of people on this planet in balance. If there is no cancer ( which takes millions of lives a year) how do we get rid of that amount of extra people. obv good, but I always think maybe there is a reason....... new disease to come? who knows
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I just don't think that there is anyway they could keep it a secret if they had found the cure for cancer years ago. Someone would let it leak for sure.
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wouldn't the evil gov/tobacco cabal want to cure cancer? instead of dead people they'd have alive people who would continue to smoke, plus they could be like "see kids? even if you get teh cancers, you can be cured. have a smoke!"
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Yeah big tobacco would love to see a cure for cancer, but the medical industry would probably go under if it was affordable.
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yes, you tell me one thing that the gonvernment has been able to keep a secret
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you think a few leaks could garner enough support to not be called whackos?
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I think that if some doctors found a cure for cancer they would inveriably tell someone. The odds of one of them not telling another living sole is impossible. Once they tell one other person then it starts.
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how bush somehow got re-elected??
Originally Posted by ess286
yes, you tell me one thing that the gonvernment has been able to keep a secret
seriously this is a good point. however, obviously i cant prove it, i do believe there is a ton of crazy stuff that we do not know about for our own good because of our govt. -
ess don't use the word impossible, cuz nothin is impossible, inventor could be murdered or bought off. say some random person found the cure for cancer, do you think this person would be interested in the betterment of mankind or his own ass when they offer him 500 million to stfu and gtfo.
impossible? -
But it would come out eventually. He would tell someone.
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not impossible. unlikely tho i think.
Originally Posted by tekiller
ess don't use the word impossible, cuz nothin is impossible, inventor could be murdered or bought off. say some random person found the cure for cancer, do you think this person would be interested in the betterment of mankind or his own ass when they offer him 500 million to stfu and gtfo.
impossible?
what was the car back in the like 30s or maybe 40s?? that had a carberator that was able to do 100 miles per gallon? all of a sudden, some guy bought them all up and they were gone......
huge bizs control ours and the world markets and in many ways the govt i think.
the amount of dirty money getting slid from companies to govt officials in one way or another is surely mind boggling and disgusting. with the help of media and a sedate and uneducated american public i doubt very little is impossible now.
hopefully im wrong and all really is right with the world but i doubt it..... -
But my point is that since you know about those carbs then it wasn't kept secret
Originally Posted by aholthaus33
not impossible. unlikely tho i think.Originally Posted by tekiller
ess don't use the word impossible, cuz nothin is impossible, inventor could be murdered or bought off. say some random person found the cure for cancer, do you think this person would be interested in the betterment of mankind or his own ass when they offer him 500 million to stfu and gtfo.
impossible?
what was the car back in the like 30s or maybe 40s?? that had a carberator that was able to do 100 miles per gallon? all of a sudden, some guy bought them all up and they were gone......
huge bizs control ours and the world markets and in many ways the govt i think.
the amount of dirty money getting slid from companies to govt officials in one way or another is surely mind boggling and disgusting. with the help of media and a sedate and uneducated american public i doubt very little is impossible now.
hopefully im wrong and all really is right with the world but i doubt it..... -
okay let says nothing is secret. why isn't a 100 mpg car been produced in the last 100 years?
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I am not saying that the government wouldn't hold out on us. I am not saying they wouldn't keep the technology down so they could profit. What I am saying is that if thre was a true cure for cancer available we would know about it.
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