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Just saw American Gangster

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  1. BigGunX BigGunX is offline Mr OT Party

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 3:57pm)

    Very good movie. Denzel is phenomenal, as always. 8.5/10.

    Also, please stop with the comparisons to Scarface. The movies couldn't be more different. Just because Scarface and American Gangster both involve druglords doesn't mean they're about the same thing. A Miracle on 34th Street and Christmas Vacation both involve the holidays...it doesn't mean they're the same type of movie.

    Scarface=cult classic but garbage as far as movies go.

    American Gangster=good story, great character development, and awesome performances.

    I liked it a lot. I think it's going to have a lot of rewatchability, too. I may go see it again in the theater.

    Highly recommended.
     
  2. bmac bmac is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 3:58pm) in reply to BigGunX

    and a multi vitamin
  3. areaman areaman is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 3:59pm) in reply to BigGunX

    wait, are you saying the development of tony montana wasnt good? or good acting? sure its over the top, but that was the idea. dont write scarface off as garbage because it was over the top.
  4. bgjoecool27 bgjoecool27 is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 3:59pm) in reply to areaman

    Scarface is a made for tv TNT original type of movie. Yes, it's a classic, but just because of Pacino's over the top performance.
  5. BigGunX BigGunX is offline Mr OT Party

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 4:01pm) in reply to areaman

    lol.

    Yes, I'm saying that exactly. Pacino was good. The rest of the acting was terrible.

    More importantly, I'm saying that Tony Montana was an out-of-control lunatic who snorted his life away. Frank Lucas was calm, cool, and collected. Their methods were 180 degrees different.

    I've seen Scarface a few times. As far as movies go, it's pretty shitty. Sorry to burst your bubble. I've also seen Puppet Master II a few times, too.

    EDIT: bgjoecool nailed it. that's a great analogy.
     
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  6. bgjoecool27 bgjoecool27 is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 4:02pm) in reply to BigGunX

    The only thing that the movies have in common is the head guys and a little bit of the glorification of crime.
  7. clizzark clizzark is offline has cockbreath

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 4:03pm) in reply to BigGunX

    but have you seen woodpooping?
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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 4:04pm) in reply to BigGunX

    Dont you dare pull the PUPPET MASTER MOVIES INTO THIS!!!
  9. Mr. Blonde Mr. Blonde is offline Supreme Moderator

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 4:07pm) in reply to baughman

    it was good...but wasnt great. I was rather disappointed in the ending. I know its based on the true story, but make up a good ending.
     
  10. DonkeyThis DonkeyThis is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 4:11pm) in reply to Mr. Blonde

    I have American Gangster on DVD (an Oscar Screener) is it a movie I need to watch on a big screen?
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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 4:16pm) in reply to DonkeyThis

    No what you need to do is send it to me.
  12. DonkeyThis DonkeyThis is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 4:19pm) in reply to Jimbo31

    Right now I have 3:10 To Yuma, American Gangster, and Things We Lost In the Fire. I'm sure I will be getting a lot more.
  13. BigGunX BigGunX is offline Mr OT Party

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 4:26pm) in reply to DonkeyThis

    Not sure you need to see this in the theater. I just love Denzel. He's amazing in this performance. He shows the whole range of emotions and is about as charismatic as you can get.

    I really enjoyed him in this. But, I don't think I've ever disliked a performance by him.
     
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  14. tommpat2000 tommpat2000 is offline Chief Asshat

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 4:29pm) in reply to BigGunX

    tottaly agree with scarface being a junk movie, cant understand why some people are obsessed with it.
  15. Camz Camz is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 4:30pm) in reply to BigGunX

    I have a mancrush on Denzel as well, along with Edward Norton. I like everything they both put out.
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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 4:35pm) in reply to BigGunX

    I definitely have a mancrush on Edward Norton also. Own just about all of his movies. 25th hour is the shit.
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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 5:02pm) in reply to tommpat2000

    Actually this movie was really inaccurate as Frank Lucas was loud and flashy not nicky barnes . I think it was good but some info was mis informing.
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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 5:07pm) in reply to BigGunX

    What's with the retroactive Scarface hate? Scarface is a better directed movie than anything Ridley Scott has done.
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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 5:13pm) in reply to BigGunX

    American History X is my favorite role by him, no doubt

    Love Denzel too, I haven't seen a movie with him that I don't like
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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 5:14pm) in reply to RickDerris

    i saw it too and it was a little inaccurate they had a special on the history channel about him last night with nicky barnes

    and he was the falshier one out of the two but he was also a great businessman and knew exactly what to do.

    like 9.0/10
  21. BubbaKGB BubbaKGB is offline The Canadian Goose

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 5:14pm) in reply to RickDerris

    LOL.....LOL....this is an utterly laughable statement. Scarface is aterrible film. LMAO @ it being a better movie than Alien, Blade Runner, Gladiator, Black Hawk Down or even the Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut. Seriously, I needed a good laugh.
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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 5:15pm) in reply to BigGunX



    ^^^^^^^American Gansta!

    Actually to stay on topic, I do want to see this movie. Thanks for the review Mr. Gun.
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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 5:16pm) in reply to BubbaKGB

    Scarface was very entertaining the first time you watched it...after that *SNORE*
  24. bgjoecool27 bgjoecool27 is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 5:17pm) in reply to RickDerris

    Wow.
  25. tommpat2000 tommpat2000 is offline Chief Asshat

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 5:17pm) in reply to RickDerris

    i dont give a shit about how well directed cinematographied a movie is, it is what it is. And scarface is overrated
  26. bgjoecool27 bgjoecool27 is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 5:17pm) in reply to DaVols

    A movie can be entertaining and still be a bad movie.
  27. DaVols DaVols is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 5:18pm) in reply to bgjoecool27

    I agree

    Anchorman was very entertaining, however it was a horrrrible movie
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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 5:26pm) in reply to SICKTIGHT311

    I was impressed by the film too. It didnt really feel like it was 2 1/2 hours long which is always a good sign. The only thing I felt was the end felt rushed. Kinda like they ran out of paper when they were writing it.
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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 5:47pm) in reply to BubbaKGB

    Bubba cmon...

    Alien and Blade Runner(his best movie, by far.) are held together by Sigourney Weaver and Rutger Hauer/production design, respectively.

    Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, Kingdom of Heaven are above average action/adventure/drama movies, nothing more.

    Maybe Scarface is a "sum is not equal to its parts" scenario for alot of ppl, but, IMO, the purely cinematic moments it reaches make up for any other deficencies.
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    Nov 2nd, 2007 (11/2/2007 5:50pm) in reply to RickDerris

    Honestly, Scarface is a piece of crap. I find none of it to be a moving, or effective cinematic experience, and I even hate Pacino's performance. Yea, I realize it was intended to be over the top, but I still hate it. I also hate Brian De Palma. All of the movies I listed are 10 times better in every aspect you could name.
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