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i do this shit all time. tha fuck is so special.

[ ] theredbaron understand the rules of golf
[ ] Kevin Na attempted to hit that ball
[ ] a hack won the golf tournament

 

Originally Posted by theredbaron

First he makes a 16 on a par four earlier in the year, then this. Apparently they didn't charge him a penalty stroke as they say he didn't intend to hit the ball. WTF?? I have seen some pretty ridiculous calls of penalties in golf and to me this should have been a stroke. Not a penalty stroke, but a stroke for addressing the ball and swinging. Somehow this hack goes on to win the tournament.

he told rules officials that this is something that he does all the time. he's very self conscious about his backswing, and finds that once he's committed to his backswing, the only way to pull out of the swing if he's not happy with his backswing is to alter his swing path and swing over the ball. he warned the rules officials that this would be something that might happen and they informed him it wouldnt be a penalty shot.

apparently the official rule is that if you miss the ball completely, its considered a 'check swing', and you can swing again with no penalty shot.

but yeah, kevin na clearly has issues he needs to work out. the commentators were ripping into him the entire final round. good on him for winning though

the rule states that if you intend to hit it and miss it, it's a stroke. He DID NOT try to hit that ball as he was distracted and didn't want to hurt himself by trying to stop a swing halfway through it.

I bet a camera distracted him on his downswing. Fucking Paparazi!

 

Originally Posted by SCTrojans

Not true - Its all based on intent. If you whiff the ball intending to hit it its a stroke. If you hit the ball not intending to you re-tee the ball with no penalty.

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Originally Posted by SCTrojans

Not true - Its all based on intent. If you whiff the ball intending to hit it its a stroke. If you hit the ball not intending to you re-tee the ball with no penalty.

well then the kevin na article i read a few days ago was wrong. the rule states if you 'alter your swing plane on purpose to miss the ball, then no penalty stroke will incur' or something like that. which obviously implies that if you whiff while trying to hit the ball, then you get a penalty stroke. but is that in writing in the rule book?

“I’ve had a talk with a bunch of rules officials, I mean even a couple years ago,” he said. “I remember at [the Sony Open in Hawaii], It started with the left arm injury and it kind of became a habit. I told them, ‘Hey, guys, I do this all the time. So I’m just letting you know ahead of time that I do this all the time.’ And we had a big talk, and [the official] said, ‘It’s not a big deal. As long as you don’t make contact, it doesn’t matter.’”
For all of the weekend hackers wondering what rule to cite when they swing and miss, Na is covered under a decision related to Rule 14 under the Rules of Golf.
The decision says, “The player is considered to have checked his downswing voluntarily by altering the path of his downswing and missing the ball even though the swing carried the club head beyond the ball. If the player had not successfully checked his downswing (i.e., he had struck the ball), he is considered to have made a stroke.”

why doesnt this rule mention what happens if you just flat out swing and miss by accident. and the official's quote saying 'it's not a big deal, as long as you dont make contact'

 

Originally Posted by marinersheep

Yes

Because if he accidentally did make contact (even tho he did not intend to), then it WOULD be a stroke.

not true. if he was on the tee box with the ball teed up and accidentally hit it he can re-tee without penalty. if the ball was in play and he accidentally hit it then yes, it would be a stroke.

 

Originally Posted by OldGrowth

not true. if he was on the tee box with the ball teed up and accidentally hit it he can re-tee without penalty. if the ball was in play and he accidentally hit it then yes, it would be a stroke.

I believe that if you accidentally hit the ball while addressing the ball, then you get to re-tee without penalty. However, if you accidentally hit the ball during the swing, even on the tee, then it is indeed a stroke. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. For example, if you take a practice swing and accidentally hit the ball 50 yards to the right, then you don't just get to re-tee.

Ball on the tee = not in play.

If you hit the ball when you do not intend to when its on a tee = replace ball and no penalty stroke.

Hypothetically had Kevin Na actually topped the golf ball in the situation in the OP and it went 30 yards in front of him he can replace it with no penalty stroke. Kinda a silly rule, but the rule nonetheless.

especially white pants

 

Originally Posted by theredbaron

First he makes a 16 on a par four earlier in the year, then this. Apparently they didn't charge him a penalty stroke as they say he didn't intend to hit the ball. WTF?? I have seen some pretty ridiculous calls of penalties in golf and to me this should have been a stroke. Not a penalty stroke, but a stroke for addressing the ball and swinging. Somehow this hack goes on to win the tournament.

Saw this and forgot about it, holy shit on not charging him a shot, he 100% intended to hit that fucking ball. That is disgusting whoever made that ruling.

 

Originally Posted by Rocky

SCTrojans is usually RIGHT but he is wrong here.

I never disagree with Scott b/c he is usually spot on but I was watching him afterwards and the look on his face was like hell ya I whiffed. I have to disagree on this one

I think I know rules pretty well but when he lines up club behind ball and takes swing that constitutes a swing. Ill check further

 

Originally Posted by orgnalsooners

Saw this and forgot about it, holy shit on not charging him a shot, he 100% intended to hit that fucking ball. That is disgusting whoever made that ruling.

I never disagree with Scott b/c he is usually spot on but I was watching him afterwards and the look on his face was like hell ya I whiffed. I have to disagree on this one

I think I know rules pretty well but when he lines up club behind ball and takes swing that constitutes a swing. Ill check further

you can't be serious.

 

Originally Posted by SCTrojans

There is absolutely zero argument for a penalty stroke under the rules.

If you honestly think he intended to hit the ball you are retarded. Also, he does this all the time.

its just strange that if he does it all the time that espn picked this time up..must have been a boring news day

 

Originally Posted by greg nice

its just strange that if he does it all the time that espn picked this time up..must have been a boring news day

I mean he had a 2 stroke lead on Sunday and ended up winning his first PGA tour event in 8 years on tour. At the time they said he had made the 3rd most money in PGA tour history without a win - so it was kinda a big deal.

The cutoff is 100% intent, which is why its a silly rule. There are a lot of golf rules that rely on the integrity of individual players when they have clear motive to be dishonest.