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  1. duece9ofRed duece9ofRed is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 2:17am) in reply to userid363

    Why does Mitt Romney get to see the intelligence briefings if he isnt the President yet? Dont know why, but this kinda Baffles me.
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 2:24am) in reply to duece9ofRed



    equal opportunity?
    affirmative action?
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 2:32am) in reply to Willywoo

     
    Originally Posted by Willywoo View Post

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ican-ally.html

    The U.S. State Department has directly contradicted Barack Obama, insisting that Egypt is an ally of America, despite the president's statement public statement that 'I don't think that we would consider them an ally'.



    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...ng-of-ally-is/

    Asked about the president’s comment, White House National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor said: “‘Ally’ is a legal term of art. We don’t have a mutual defense treaty with Egypt like we do with our NATO allies. But as the President has said, Egypt is long-standing and close partner of the United States, and we have built on that foundation by supporting Egypt’s transition to democracy and working with the new government.”

    If Obama told you to shit, you would ask, "What color?"

    Egypt is among about 14 countries designated at “major non-NATO allies” by US presidents.
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 3:51am) in reply to userid363

     
    Originally Posted by userid363 View Post

    I much prefer putting whatever pressure we need to to get Egypt and Libya to protect our embassies as is their duty. Our military shooting their hoodlums doesn't play well on international news

    Shockingly, I actually agree with you on this but unfortunately, Obama doesn't have the balls to do this, hence when asked about shutting off the spigot of money to both of these countries, which imo is the start of putting pressure on these countries, he said this.. But when asked by Diaz-Balart whether it was time to "reconsider foreign aid" to Egypt and Libya, Obama said the U.S. “doesn't have an option of withdrawing from the world ... we're the one indispensable nation."

    Since when is suspending aid considered withdrawing?
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 3:57am) in reply to duece9ofRed

     
    Originally Posted by duece9ofRed View Post

    Why does Mitt Romney get to see the intelligence briefings if he isnt the President yet? Dont know why, but this kinda Baffles me.

    It's my understanding, and I could be wrong about this, but its not uncommon the closer Presidential elections happen, that the current admin starts sharing some info with the challenger regardless of what the poll numbers say in the event the challenger wins the election, they will have been kept informed on important information.
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 4:22am) in reply to mesaplayeraz

     
    Originally Posted by mesaplayeraz View Post

    It's my understanding, and I could be wrong about this, but its not uncommon the closer Presidential elections happen, that the current admin starts sharing some info with the challenger regardless of what the poll numbers say in the event the challenger wins the election, they will have been kept informed on important information.

    this is my understanding also.
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 12:22pm) in reply to mesaplayeraz

     
    Originally Posted by mesaplayeraz View Post

    It's my understanding, and I could be wrong about this, but its not uncommon the closer Presidential elections happen, that the current admin starts sharing some info with the challenger regardless of what the poll numbers say in the event the challenger wins the election, they will have been kept informed on important information.

    Seems dumb considering they still have from November through January to get up to speed if they'd happen to win.
     
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 4:06pm) in reply to time4badbeat

     
    Originally Posted by time4badbeat View Post

    Seems dumb considering they still have from November through January to get up to speed if they'd happen to win.

    Yeah, I always cram when studying to be the next (doubtful, but maybe) leader of the free world too...
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 6:14pm) in reply to Realbigfish4



    Plus, Australia and India too.

    This shit just blows my mind. I am sure the movie is fucked up and all, but there is no way I would ever get this upset about a movie. If you don't like it, don't watch it. I cannot understand these people's mindset.
    Edited By: Justman Sep 15th, 2012 at 06:14 PM
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 6:38pm) in reply to Justman

     
    Originally Posted by Justman View Post



    Plus, Australia and India too.

    This shit just blows my mind. I am sure the movie is fucked up and all, but there is no way I would ever get this upset about a movie. If you don't like it, don't watch it. I cannot understand these people's mindset.

    Poke a monkey with a stick then you will understand.
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 6:48pm) in reply to frazze2

     
    Originally Posted by frazze2 View Post

    Poke a monkey with a stick then you will understand.


    So these Muslims are like monkeys? The stick is the film? So the film poked the monkeys and now the monkeys go nuts everywhere?

    Thanks for that. I totally fucking get it now.
    Edited By: Justman Sep 15th, 2012 at 06:52 PM
    Reason: now, not "not"
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 7:00pm) in reply to Justman

    They're fucking animals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BUT, take away Americans and their money and we will turn ugly too.
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 7:39pm) in reply to hookey91

    Why do we have Ambassadors in every fn country?
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 7:45pm) in reply to dams

    You ever watch Rambo 3 and 4, same concept.
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 7:45pm) in reply to SmokeyCasinos

    Having an embassy in almost every country is one of the perks of being American
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 7:52pm) in reply to Zeppelin

    Don't have an embassy in Cuba afaik
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 8:27pm) in reply to Lord Supremo

    Doubtful. Know we don't have one in North Korea. If an American wants to go to NK you use the Swedish embassy if anything happens. Read yesterday we don't have one in Iran but have an office in the Swiss embassy. I was surprised to hear that we had one in Libya

    But it's crazy how almost every country has a US embassy. Can make traveling a little easier
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 8:50pm) in reply to Zeppelin

    loooooool!

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    Somebody in New Zealand insulted Thor. Quick, burn the Peruvian embassy and behead the Italian ambassador

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    Breaking news. Taliban attacks Fiji in revenge for Croatian film
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 8:56pm) in reply to MadProfesor

    lol

    the stupid, it burnnsss

    I wonder if I could post inflammatory muhammad cartoons under Da Donkey's name and challenge syria to fly a plane into his house
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 9:18pm) in reply to Zeppelin

    galileo would have lol'd
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 9:46pm) in reply to MadProfesor

     
    Originally Posted by MadProfesor View Post

    loooooool!

    Richard Dawkins ‏@RichardDawkins
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    cute
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    Sep 15th, 2012 (9/15/2012 10:01pm) in reply to Hank H1LL

     
    Originally Posted by Hank H1LL View Post

    I wonder if I could post inflammatory muhammad cartoons under Da Donkey's name and challenge syria to fly a plane into his house

    Ill ship ya 5 bucks if ya do
    Edited By: dolphin13 Sep 15th, 2012 at 10:01 PM
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    Sep 16th, 2012 (9/16/2012 1:59am) in reply to dolphin13

    Afghan Muslims burn effigy of Obama at protests that are not against Obama

    Looks more like Tiger Woods...
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    Sep 16th, 2012 (9/16/2012 2:48am) in reply to SmokeyCasinos

    76% of Egyptians Don't Want Obama Re-elected
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    Sep 16th, 2012 (9/16/2012 2:53am) in reply to userid363

     
    Originally Posted by userid363 View Post

    76% of Egyptians Don't Want Obama Re-elected

    for a guy that is supposedly friendly to them (according to republitards), why do you think he is not well like over there? i have a pretty good theory.
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    Sep 16th, 2012 (9/16/2012 3:04am) in reply to Lord Supremo

     
    Originally Posted by Lord Supremo View Post

    Don't have an embassy in Cuba afaik

    There was an American Embassy in Havana when I was there a few yrs ago, pretty sure it's still there.
    They had a digital sign that would display news headlines. The Cuban gov built a bunch of huge flagpoles to block the sign.

    Edit: apparently it's called the American Special Interest Section.
    Edited By: BulldogCafe Sep 16th, 2012 at 03:09 AM
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    Sep 16th, 2012 (9/16/2012 3:16am) in reply to saxman

     
    Originally Posted by saxman View Post

    for a guy that is supposedly friendly to them (according to republitards), why do you think he is not well like over there? i have a pretty good theory.

    In Egypt, there are still people loyal to Mubarak. Then there's a faction that hates anything US. Giving that up would be harder than cigarrettes. If you've ever had fury that you felt totally entitled to. Anyone who has ever lost anyone probably has been told it's the US' fault. Half of those 76% probably are dirt poor and don't even know his middle name or pedigree, or if they heard it, also heard it's a lie. ipads for everyone
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    Sep 16th, 2012 (9/16/2012 3:23am) in reply to userid363

    true - i would also go as far as saying many of the middle eastern countries would rather have a lot of talk, sabre rattling and foreign aid dollars topped off with some advance warnings of who is going to get hit next, and where. Obama's strategy seems to be small scale clandestine operations and drone attacks on the leadership of terrorist organizations. It's highly effective and they don't like it much.

    Peter Bergen says "with allies like these, who needs enemies". so true
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/13/opinio...html?hpt=hp_t1
    Edited By: saxman Sep 16th, 2012 at 03:32 AM
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