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It's official... beginning March 12 restaurants, delis, stadiums, food carts, and movie theaters in NYC will be fined for serving sugary drinks in containers 16 ounces or larger. Thoughts?
Edited By: Realbigfish4 Sep 14th, 2012 at 06:31 PM
The best definition I could find in regards to what constitutes a "sugary drink": "The restrictions would not affect fruit juices, dairy-based drinks like milkshakes, or alcoholic beverages; no-calorie diet sodas would not be affected, but establishments with self-service drink fountains, like many fast-food restaurants, would not be allowed to stock cups larger than 16 ounces."
My thoughts: I cant get a 16oz soda, but I can get a 15oz soda and refill it as many times as I'd like. I cant get a 16oz soda, but I can get a Fair Shake from Shake Shack with 650 calories and 33g of fat. I cant have a 160z soda, but I can get a Grande White Hot Chocolate from Starbucks with 420 calories and 12g of fat. This has to be one of the most moronic "public health controls" of all time. What's next? No "king sized" candy bars? No coupons or bogo's for "snack" foods? Deli meats must contain no more than 200mg of sodium per serving?
* Here's a rather entertaining link: http://www.policymic.com/articles/14...-fight-obesity -
A guy on the street who was quoted for a story in the Daily News last year put it perfectly:
"Our city suffered two tragedies a decade ago: the 9/11 attacks and the election of Mike Bloomberg. The former tried to destroy New York City; the latter succeeded." -
Repost but worth it.
Edited By: Willywoo Sep 14th, 2012 at 06:32 PM
Ban fat people who make bad choices!! -
There should just be a fat tax on fat people then the American economy will rebound, and the fat people will be motivated to loose some weight. Have some scales at McDonalds and such that measure body fat. When the 400 lb bohemoth comes in and wants everything supersized, then can pay $100 for the fries and Big Mac. Put the money into healthcare so that when the lardass needs to be taken to the hospital, it can help pay for the crane and the demolition of some of the walls to get the person out of their house.
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It's hard to see how people can agree with this, even in principle. You can't stop people from limiting their sugar consumption. It's just not going to happen.
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The government limiting personal freedom is terrible.
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Edited By: Realbigfish4 Sep 14th, 2012 at 06:39 PMThat's fucking perfect!Originally Posted by kellykip
A guy on the street who was quoted for a story in the Daily News last year put it perfectly:
"Our city suffered two tragedies a decade ago: the 9/11 attacks and the election of Mike Bloomberg. The former tried to destroy New York City; the latter succeeded."
Me and the lady pretty much always buy (bought) a large and split it. Seems silly to spend $8 on two mediums when we can (could) get a large for $8.50 -
Completely unsure what the big deal is. As Bloomberg said, "We're not banning you from getting the stuff. … It's just if you want 32 ounces, the restaurant has to serve it in two glasses. That's not exactly taking away your freedoms."
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now people are going to drink 32 oz instead of 20.
Not having Juice included in the ban is lol-able too, shit's just as bad for you as soda. -
Edited By: Admiral Sep 14th, 2012 at 06:46 PMSeriously? Seriously???Originally Posted by Lord Supremo
Completely unsure what the big deal is. As Bloomberg said, "We're not banning you from getting the stuff. … It's just if you want 32 ounces, the restaurant has to serve it in two glasses. That's not exactly taking away your freedoms."
I feel bad for all the mom and pop restaurants that have to buy all new glassware now. That's definitely not cheap.
Let's ban meat packing plants from selling meat in over .5 lb increments because no one needs that much meat at once, you can still buy all the meat that you want. How about banning roads from having over a half mile of continuous straight road to prevent people from going over the speed limit for an extended period of time, you can still get where you are going. -
Sugar is probably one of the most detrimental products to anyones health and is definately a large part of the reason America is so fat and sick all the time.
That being said, this ban is ridiculous and won't do anything to stop obesity. Not to mention the fact that people who don't care about their health should be able to eat/drink whatever they want.
I wonder when our country is going to learn that prohibition doesn't work.. -
This makes it even more stupid. Why do it at all then?
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I'm just hoping it was a level to get hilarious reactions. Never can be sure with LS though.
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Yep, when I need that 20oz coke at my desk, I'm just gonna end up buying 2 12oz cans and sticking the other one in the fridge to have once the 1st can is done. Plus the 20oz bottles are great cause they can be capped while you're not drinking em, which keeps shit from spilling.
Edited By: kellykip Sep 14th, 2012 at 06:50 PM -
The govt shouldnt be able to put a ban in effect to directly limit our personal freedom of choice and consumption.
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Originally Posted by Spiltbongwater
There should just be a fat tax on fat people then the American economy will rebound, and the fat people will be motivated to loose some weight. Have some scales at McDonalds and such that measure body fat. When the 400 lb bohemoth comes in and wants everything supersized, then can pay $100 for the fries and Big Mac. Put the money into healthcare so that when the lardass needs to be taken to the hospital, it can help pay for the crane and the demolition of some of the walls to get the person out of their house.
+1 Brazilian. run for office...id vote for ya. -
Because of the massive volumes of research that shows that generally, people don't actually have a fixed idea in their heads of how much they want to eat or drink, but instead take cues from and are massively influenced by container/portion size. E.g., if I put out a bowl of M&Ms with a sign that tells people to "take as much as you want," the amount of M&Ms they take will vary a lot depending on how big of a scoop I put in that bowl of M&Ms.
[ ] anyone is prevented from eating/drinking whatever they wantOriginally Posted by StayCalm
Not to mention the fact that people who don't care about their health should be able to eat/drink whatever they want.
I wonder when our country is going to learn that prohibition doesn't work..
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This is obviously a Coca Cola/Pepsi lobbying scheme. They are the direct beneficiaries of this.
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More Nanny Bloomberg gold:
The nanny state is going after moms.
Mayor Bloomberg is pushing hospitals to hide their baby formula behind locked doors so more new mothers will breast-feed.
Starting Sept. 3, the city will keep tabs on the number of bottles that participating hospitals stock and use — the most restrictive pro-breast-milk program in the nation.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...#ixzz26T5llLVp -
You were partially right...I don't disagree with Bloomberg, but the only reason I included that quote was to set off hilarious reactions.
Originally Posted by Admiral
I'm just hoping it was a level to get hilarious reactions. Never can be sure with LS though.
My own stance on this is generally one of apathy. I understand the reasoning behind it and don't think it's a bad idea, but I am skeptical that this policy will have any really massive effect on public health, so I'm not too zealous about it. I mostly just don't understand the wild outrage that this generates...people are behaving like Bloomberg banned soda altogether, which is obviously not at all what happened. -
Edited By: XquiziVex Sep 14th, 2012 at 07:01 PMYep, put out a large scoop and people will take what they want, and probably waste some. Put out a small scoop, and people will bitch that it is too small and ask for more, then waste some.Originally Posted by Lord Supremo
Because of the massive volumes of research that shows that generally, people don't actually have a fixed idea in their heads of how much they want to eat or drink, but instead take cues from and are massively influenced by container/portion size. E.g., if I put out a bowl of M&Ms with a sign that tells people to "take as much as you want," the amount of M&Ms they take will vary a lot depending on how big of a scoop I put in that bowl of M&Ms.
People consume and/or waste what they want, despite research and marketing schemes. -
Originally Posted by Lord Supremo
Completely unsure what the big deal is. As Bloomberg said, "We're not banning you from getting the stuff. … It's just if you want 32 ounces, the restaurant has to serve it in two glasses. That's not exactly taking away your freedoms."
I really hope you're joking...
You realize the price of two 16oz glasses is going to be more expensive than one 32oz, right? Going to the movies just got more expensive, and the vendors are jizzing in their panties right now. -
Edited By: Jaybone2315 Sep 14th, 2012 at 07:03 PMYou dont see why people are mad?Originally Posted by Lord Supremo
You were partially right...I don't disagree with Bloomberg, but the only reason I included that quote was to set off hilarious reactions.
My own stance on this is generally one of apathy. I understand the reasoning behind it and don't think it's a bad idea, but I am skeptical that this policy will have any really massive effect on public health, so I'm not too zealous about it. I mostly just don't understand the wild outrage that this generates...people are behaving like Bloomberg banned soda altogether, which is obviously not at all what happened.
The government of NYC just told people how much fucking soda they can buy/sell at once. Thats absurd.












