Originally Posted by kellykip

If you are unwilling to look at actual stats, there's really no reason to continue this discussion.

who is romo better then on that list?

Dirk has 1 MVP, 1 Finals MVP, 1 NBA Championship, 11 All star games, 4 NBA All first team, won the 3 point shootout, lot of Euro awards too

Larry has 3 MVPs, 3 Finals MVPs, 3 NBA Championships, 12 All Star games, 9 NBA all first teams, ROY, All Star Game MVP, 3 three point shootout titles, won the wooden and the naismith, not to mention has been named NBA Coach of the Year in 98 and Executive of the Year this past season

 

Originally Posted by Jsup

you cant judge a professional athlete on his regular season career...thats the dumbest thing ever..and how come joe montana won multiple regular season mvps and tony romo has never been considered a current top 5 qb at any point in his career?

tony romo is in the prime of his career right? hes not 1 of the 10 best qbs in the league lol...u can argue hes 9th or 10th best, but if take into account how terrible hes been at leading his team in the playoffs then i probably dont have him in my top 10 this year...give me jay cutler over tony romo, and i fucking hate jay cutler lol...joe montana is 1 of the best qbs ever...how is this a discussion i dont get it?

joe montana won more super bowls then tony romo will win playoff games in his lifetime...but oh ya that playoffs arent important in judging someones career i guess

god you're dumb on so many levels. The whole argument was based on romo playing in a more competetive league than montana which is why he can be the 7th or 8th best QB and still be compared to one of the goats of the 80s.

Second...based on your obsession with regular season and everything you've said so far ITT you pretty much have to consider peyton manning a subpar qb since he failed what like 11/12 times in the playoffs so far in his career (or whatever the number is). REGULAR SEASON DOES MATTER.

 

Originally Posted by Jsup

rogers, brady, brees, stafford, newton, e manning, p manning, healthy michael vick, the rapist, phillip rivers...thats 10 better qbs not counting matt ryan or cutler who will prob have better seasons...guy isnt a top 10 qb and ur comparing him to joe montana...just drop it lol

He is a top 10 QB. 31 TDs 10 INTs. Just watching him he is clearly a top 5 QB in terms of athleticism but poor decision making puts him out of the top 5. You're obv a blind hater so after this post I'm going to kindly disregard your opinions.

 

Originally Posted by kellykip

If you are unwilling to look at actual stats, there's really no reason to continue this discussion.

no reason at all

 

Originally Posted by sinatra22

Clearly they are the two best white players in NBA history.

voorhs...peyton manning has played in 2 super bowls and won a super bowl and won a bunch of other playoff games..its not like hes won 1 playoff game in his entire career like a certain tony romo

just bc the league is more competitive in 2012 doesnt mean that u can compare a guy who might not be a top 10 qb in todays game to the best qb in the 1980s...im not a blind hater of tony romo..i think hes a good solid starting qb in the nfl right around the top 10 players in the league...i think his poor decision making as you put it and the fact that hes a complete choke artist puts him just outside of my top 10

and of course i think the regular season stats matter you fucking dolt...when did i ever say they dont matter? all i said to the original retard who tried to compare montana to romo was that you have to count playoff stats/records when comparing players...hes trying to compare romo to montana without looking at their playoff records...montana won 4 super bowls and romo has won 1 playoff game...god you are a giant fucking retard

and latisfahs.... im sure you can make an argument for romo being better then stafford, newton, vick and rivers but they would probably be wrong...id rather have all 4 of those guys as my teams qb then romo...and im not a romo hater lol i think hes a really good qb...just not as good as the other 10 guys i put ahead of him...kill yourself voors u douchebag

ur gonna tell me that romo is a better qb then eli manning now? fuck it im over this u guys know everything and i know nothing clearly...fucking idiots

romo might be better then vick i think its close between them...i wouldnt want either of them as my qb in a huge high pressure game

im hoping to get tony romo as my backup qb in my 12 team fantasy league tonight...not trying to be funny with this comment...its a pretty big buy in league so im guessing he wont be 1 of the top 12 qbs taken since people know what they are doing...i think hes a good player though so id love to have him as my backup

Bird.

 

Originally Posted by Jsup

romo might be better then vick i think its close between them...i wouldnt want either of them as my qb in a huge high pressure game

im hoping to get tony romo as my backup qb in my 12 team fantasy league tonight...not trying to be funny with this comment...its a pretty big buy in league so im guessing he wont be 1 of the top 12 qbs taken since people know what they are doing...i think hes a good player though so id love to have him as my backup

Romo was the 7th rated fantasy qb last season. He should be even better this year with the emergence of Dez.

I couldn't help but laugh when you said the people in your league know what they are doing yet Romo likely won't be one of the top 12 qbs drafted.

If I were you I'd draft Russell Wilson super late in the draft as a backup. He's gonna surprise a lot of people. I really like his skill set and poise. I like his mental approach to the game.

Obv Bird >> Dirk but I think Dirk is on Bird's level when it comes to shooting prowess. Dirk's patented one legged fallaway is the most indefensible shot since Kareem's 'sky hook' or Hakeem's 'dream shake'

 

Originally Posted by Jsup

romo might be better then vick i think its close between them...i wouldnt want either of them as my qb in a huge high pressure game

im hoping to get tony romo as my backup qb in my 12 team fantasy league tonight...not trying to be funny with this comment...its a pretty big buy in league so im guessing he wont be 1 of the top 12 qbs taken since people know what they are doing...i think hes a good player though so id love to have him as my backup

I've been with you in this thread all the way up to here ...

Romo is soooo much better (fantasy speaking) than a back-up on a 12-man league. If your league doesn't understand that, they don't know what they are doing.

lol and im the one getting butthurt here....yeah okay.

ya i love fred jackson this year im hoping he drops to me in the beginning of the 3rd round...i honestly may just wait for a qb and take romo/RG3 late and get a good backup like cutler or big ben who are projected to go super late...would be funny if i had my 2 least fav qbs (romo and cutler)...im leaning torwards taking brees with the 7th pick just to avoid having people i hate to root for lol

weve derailed this thread enough though with this bullshit about tony homo being better then joe montana and about voors being a braindead moron...

lets get back to talking about how dirk, the 6th-15th best white player of all time is better then larry bird

 

Originally Posted by latifahs

Also, statistically he blows Eli away but "ZOMG 2 rings" kills any intelligent argument for those two

Statistics don't win super bowls. Fucking icewater in your QB's veins wins superbowls. Also it's dumb to use stats to compare Romo to Eli when Eli plays in a wind tunnel called Giants Stadium and Romo plays in nice weather or indoors.

for an actor......

charlton heston or eddie haskel????

 

Originally Posted by downbylaw11

im surprised nowitzki has more career points than bird without his career being over yet

Strange thing to be surprised by.

 

Originally Posted by latifahs

I can make an argument for him being better than Stafford, Newton, Vick, and Rivers.

Well the first 2 there's no chance you can make any valid arguments. Vick, sure, guy cant stay healthy or win. Rivers, meh, same guy as Romo imo. They both put up above avg regular season stats and scrub it up in the post season.