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Liddell Vs. Rua

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  1. debo34 debo34 is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2009 (4/17/2009 10:47am)

    Who do you like in this fight and why?

    Unlike the Silva fight on this card, i think this one could go either way.

    I know its a day early, but im bored.
     
  2. Jaybone2315 Jaybone2315 is offline Professional Couch Ruiner

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    Apr 17th, 2009 (4/17/2009 10:51am) in reply to debo34

    my buddy is a big liddell fan... so ill be rooting for the other guy.
  3. GRIMYOAF GRIMYOAF is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2009 (4/17/2009 11:01am) in reply to Jaybone2315

    If Rua is on top of his game, then Id say he wins 80% of the time, but as seen in the Griffen fight, he was way out of shape, and was spent by the 2nd round. That uppercut Liddel tried to land vs Evans pretty much made me loose alot of respect for him as a skilled fighter. And I really dont see him beating any1 else if he tries to punch like that.
  4. timthegem timthegem is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2009 (4/17/2009 11:54am) in reply to debo34

    Liddell isn't going to lose this fight. I think he has too much heart and will stop at nothing to avenge getting embarrassed. A tank wouldn't be able to take him down this time. If an asteroid was minutes away from colliding with the earth tomorrow night, we could fire Chuck Liddell into space to take it out. That's how pumped he's going to be.
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    Apr 17th, 2009 (4/17/2009 1:36pm) in reply to debo34

    Everyone's talking how Liddell's either gonna win by brutal TKO to get back in the mix, or he's gonna grind out a decision if he's over the hill.

    Rua is still young people. And don't think he hasn't been working cardio every day since that last mess of a fight against Coleman. I think Rua will come into the fight WAY more prepared (he was coming off 2 surgeries too, against Coleman) and I think it will be a great great fight.

    I can't call it, but I'll take a stab anyways. Rua, 2nd rd. TKO?
  6. LDM LDM is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2009 (4/17/2009 3:13pm) in reply to ccm

    Rua is off the roids and can no longer hang w/ mid-level pros.

    or so i've heard.
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    Apr 17th, 2009 (4/17/2009 3:25pm) in reply to LDM

    yeah I heard that too. but I can't help but think he's actually training for this fight. Roids don't give you skill, and he had some sick technique back in the day. Hard to think that's just disappeared.

    That said, I hope Liddell makes a strong showing.
  8. Mitty8888 Mitty8888 is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2009 (4/17/2009 4:12pm) in reply to ccm

    liddell isn't very good anymore. Now that the UFC actually has a deep talent pool, retards who just swing for the fence like cchucky cheese are washed up. in a stacked LHW division this fight is over-hyped.
  9. XquiziVex XquiziVex is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2009 (4/17/2009 5:02pm) in reply to Mitty8888

    Liddell is a lucky one punch fighter. If he gets lucky, he will win.
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    Apr 17th, 2009 (4/17/2009 7:02pm) in reply to debo34

    I WANT TO HEAR WHAT DR HOUSE HAS TO SAY
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    Apr 17th, 2009 (4/17/2009 7:04pm) in reply to SluggerWV

    The best MMA sports bet picker actually likes Rua at the current line.

    I like Liddell at -200 all day.
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    Apr 17th, 2009 (4/17/2009 7:35pm) in reply to monteaz

    any1 that thinks chuck is just some lucky punch one hit wonder doesnt know a thing about MMA, he has one of the best takedown defenses in the game and his wrestling is very underrated.
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    Apr 17th, 2009 (4/17/2009 8:15pm) in reply to SluggerWV

    This is actually going to be a very interesting fight. Obv a bit more competitive then the Main Event. Silva is just a freak.

    Okay, first, anyone saying Liddel is overrated is out of their minds! He has great skills in both his striking, in particular his counter striking, his wrestling is great, and his takedown defense is only surpassed by B.J. Penn and GSP. It's sfhard to put that man on the mat. Only thing is that he has relied on the same strategy to pull him through all of his fights, and it worked for quite awhile. But, now that guys are really starting to figure out how to exploit that strategy, he has to change it up.

    And that's just what he's doing. He's finally getting out of The Pit and working with other camps, and one of which is American Top Team, which is an AMAZING camp with some really top top fighters.

    So, will his strategy be the same? Maybe, but since he's changing everything, or I think he is, I have no idea what type of strategy he'll employ. But he'll be in good shape, and his skills will be sharp.

    Rua...skilled as all hell, but has been fuxed by injuries and adjusting to the cage. Cage is much harder to fight in then a ring, especially for his style. The ring is more geared toward striking. Cage is a bit more difficult as there are no corners and the fence can be used (well, similar to the ropes, but moreso) both defensively and offensively. That, and he's fighting in the U.S.

    He's had two knee surgeries, which is HUGE! Because you can't do shit for skill training, and you can't do dick squat for conditioning. So, he's lost alot of time. We all know he looked AWFUL against Coleman. His skill was there, but his cardio was just...yeah.

    I'd say Chuck has the advantage 70>30 because he's branching out beyond his usual camp. However, if Rua comes in great shape, that advantage shrinks and either becomes dead even or a 55>45 in Rua.

    We know Chuck will come in shape and ready. The question in this fight is will Rua?

    Edit - Essentially, in my opinion, if Rua (assuming he comes in poor to decent shape) wants to win he has to get it done early. The longer this fight goes the more the edge goes to Chuck.
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    Apr 17th, 2009 (4/17/2009 8:21pm) in reply to Dr.GHouse

    Its a toss up on this. Maybe 60/40 chuck.
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    Apr 17th, 2009 (4/17/2009 8:29pm) in reply to Echelon

    I guess you guys didnt see Rua's last fight. He looked like shit!! But anything can happen but Im going to have to go with Chuck on this one!!!!
     
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    Apr 17th, 2009 (4/17/2009 8:34pm) in reply to mikestl83

     
    Originally Posted by mikestl83 View Post

    I guess you guys didnt see Rua's last fight. He looked like shit!! But anything can happen but Im going to have to go with Chuck on this one!!!!

    why are you screaming. chuck 1 more time plz.
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