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  1. runninbad runninbad is offline

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    Feb 8th, 2012 (2/8/2012 7:28pm) in reply to Niceguy

    MS is currently doing this with their latest version of Flight Simulator.. "Flight" to be released on Feb 29th. Used to be you'd purchase the game on disk and you'd get the whole world...40,000+ airports and a bunch of airplanes. They also allowed 3rd party developers (freeware and payware) to create more advanced sceneries, aircraft, liveries and assorted add-ons (flight decks, weather generators, AI aircraft, and other misc.) With Flight, you get the game for free via download which includes Hawaii (only the big island) and 2 airplanes. Everything else will be DLC for a fee from MS and the third party developers are left with their dicks swinging in the wind.
  2. Prestonluv Prestonluv is offline Hi. I'm awesome.

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    Feb 9th, 2012 (2/9/2012 2:36am) in reply to runninbad

    war rapes itt
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    Feb 9th, 2012 (2/9/2012 3:05am) in reply to Goldenad

     
    Originally Posted by Goldenad View Post

    i see your point giga, i'm just saying gamestop is the biggest video game retailer in the world and 44% of their profit comes from used game sales. obviously big box stores act as competitors but there is a gamestop in basically every mall and strip mall in america so xbox would be burning a huge bridge here if they were to do it and xbox would be seriously hurt if gamestop chose not to sell their products.

    edit

    gamestop has 25% of the us market share in video game sales

    Gamestop doesn't sell microsoft produects = Microsoft (more specifically, their xbox subsidiary) surivives
    Gamestop doesn't sell microsoft produects = Gamestop doesn't survive.

    Gamestop has a lot more to lose in that scenario.

     
    Originally Posted by Niceguy View Post

    I'm not thinking of it as a matter of storage, but rather a matter of Data Transfer. Any big PC release significantly slows down servers on launch dates. I'm even reminded of old WoW updates that were simple 1 gig patches that would take hours because of the user base accessing it. And Blizzard is one of the best in the business and they can barely account for the traffic at times. The console market is 5-10x the base of the PC market so they may want to do it, we may have the capacity to receive it in that fashion, but would the delivery be feasible? Because any 1 game is 7-12 gigs easily(conservative), it'd be an interesting test for whatever new tech is on the horizon should cloud computing plateau.

    Not that it makes much difference, but aren't xbox discs single layer DVDs, and max out at 4.7gb? Obviously ps3 is different, and there's some multi-disk games, but thats the minority.
     
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    Feb 9th, 2012 (2/9/2012 3:05am) in reply to Niceguy

    You really think Microsoft cares about the bottom line of fucking game stop? Its their in demand product, and Gamestop is just one retailer out of many. They have no say at all. That being said the idea is Nazi'ish to say the least. What do you do with your beat games? Just gonna reduce sales and people will rent from redbox instead of buying games.
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    Feb 9th, 2012 (2/9/2012 3:08am) in reply to Mr. Blonde

     
    Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde View Post

    im going to guess it happens by the time the system after xb720 comes out. There is a reason they are offering you ridiculous hard drives

    This...

    Just seems like this new limit won't be able to be implemented for systems that aren't connected to xbox live, unless they pack in some cheap wireless cell-phone-esque transmitter to handle some communications without internet access. Seems like a no-brainer move for MS, Sony, and Nintendo for their next-gen consoles though imo.
     
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    Feb 9th, 2012 (2/9/2012 4:32am) in reply to nyy486

     
    Originally Posted by nyy486 View Post


    Not that it makes much difference, but aren't xbox discs single layer DVDs, and max out at 4.7gb? Obviously ps3 is different, and there's some multi-disk games, but thats the minority.

    Xbox discs are dual layer. The newer games, as of a few months ago, are about 8.5GB, and older games are about 7.6GB.
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    Feb 9th, 2012 (2/9/2012 5:39am) in reply to I Fold

     
    Originally Posted by I Fold View Post

    You really think Microsoft cares about the bottom line of fucking game stop? Its their in demand product, and Gamestop is just one retailer out of many. They have no say at all. That being said the idea is Nazi'ish to say the least. What do you do with your beat games? Just gonna reduce sales and people will rent from redbox instead of buying games.

    There's another point. If no used games... what happens to redbox/gamefly/etc.
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    Feb 9th, 2012 (2/9/2012 5:49am) in reply to Niceguy

     
    Originally Posted by Niceguy View Post

    I'm not thinking of it as a matter of storage, but rather a matter of Data Transfer. Any big PC release significantly slows down servers on launch dates. I'm even reminded of old WoW updates that were simple 1 gig patches that would take hours because of the user base accessing it. And Blizzard is one of the best in the business and they can barely account for the traffic at times. The console market is 5-10x the base of the PC market so they may want to do it, we may have the capacity to receive it in that fashion, but would the delivery be feasible? Because any 1 game is 7-12 gigs easily(conservative), it'd be an interesting test for whatever new tech is on the horizon should cloud computing plateau.

    Bandwidth as with all computing tech is improving at an exponential rate the struggles blizzard had in the past would not happen today IF they have spent money improving their hardware. by the time the xbox720 and ps4 come out we will have cellphone networks with top speeds over 100mbps just to give you an idea of where we are headed.
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    Feb 9th, 2012 (2/9/2012 5:51am) in reply to iplaypokerbad

    So Sony and Nintendo decide that they will allow used games on their system, and then xbox becomes obsolete. Doubt that when the xbox720 actually comes out that Microsoft won't have changed their stance already.
    Edited By: rocksolid124 Feb 9th, 2012 at 05:52 AM
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    Feb 9th, 2012 (2/9/2012 6:31am) in reply to rocksolid124

    I would think that companies like Game Fly and others that rent games would be hurt a helluva lot more than Gamestop.

    Doesn't make much sense to me.
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    Feb 9th, 2012 (2/9/2012 6:36am) in reply to Goldenad

     
    Originally Posted by Goldenad View Post

    wont happen, gamestop, the biggest video game retailer in the country (maybe world?) is responsible for a plurality of xbox game sales. gamestop also makes most of their profit off of used game sales. theyre gonna throw a shit fit and basically guarantee this doesnt happen because if gamestop doesnt promote the next generation xbox system then it will crash and burn.

    same way barnes and noble shut down the kindle?
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    Feb 9th, 2012 (2/9/2012 6:44am) in reply to whitealroker

     
    Originally Posted by whitealroker View Post

    yep I'm fat...I dont have a wife in my house that eats all the food before I can


    atta kid WAR. Tell DW who his daddy is.
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    Feb 9th, 2012 (2/9/2012 7:32am) in reply to Prestonluv

     
    Originally Posted by Prestonluv View Post

    war rapes itt

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    Feb 9th, 2012 (2/9/2012 7:38am) in reply to whitealroker

     
    Originally Posted by whitealroker View Post

    yep I'm fat...I dont have a wife in my house that eats all the food before I can


    HOF
     
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