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  1. -Actor Nick Santino lived in a Manhattan apartment building that put up strict dog regulations in 2010
    -His 5 year old pit bull mix Rocco was grandfathered in
    -Tenants afraid of pit bulls poured complaints into the building management, even though the dog apparently never did anything to them
    -Rocco was not allowed to ride in main elevators, and Santino was not permitted to leave dog alone in apartment for more than 9 hours at any time.
    -Threatened with $250 fine for barking, although his neighbor on his floor states that the dog was not a barker.
    -Building management pressures him to get rid of dog
    -On Tuesday he has the dog euthanized; Wednesday morning leaves a note saying "Today I betrayed my best friend" and overdoses on pills.

    http://gothamist.com/2012/01/28/acto...er_euthani.php

    Why didn't he just move or why didn't he give the dog to someone else? Unfortunately, the chances of a 5 year old pit bull in NYC being placed successfully are not good. Re: why he didn't move, I'm sure there could be many good reasons ranging from having a poor credit score that would prevent him from getting accepted in a new building, or finding vacancy in a building that would accept his dog (the apartment occupancy rate in Manhattan is about 96% if I'm not mistaken - for dog friendly buildings it has to be less than 1% vacancy). Being a soap actor, he may have felt that he couldn't move out of Manhattan for professional reasons. In light of this fact, the pressure the building mgmt was putting on him was probably overwhelming, and probablty extended way past the dog issue as a result.

    Or could he simply have been so beaten down with the harrassment that he ended up in a state of mind where he could no longer make a rational choice?

    Edited By: kellykip Jan 30th, 2012 at 05:58 PM
  2. what a drama queen
  3. I feel bad for the dog. Not so much for him.
     
  4. mental illness is sad.

    people suck.
  5. Poor dog.
  6.  
    Originally Posted by killingbird View Post

    I feel bad for the dog. Not so much for him.

    Do you feel that the other building tenants' ignorance of pit bull mixes and consequential management pressure share some piece of the responsibility for what happened?
    Thread Starter
  7. When I read this story a few days ago, the headline read "Soap Opera Star Commits Suicide".

    I then opened the article and saw that this "star" was in 6 episodes of one show and 7 episodes of another show. Not exactly a "star"

    Other than that, I really don't care about it. I don't understand the tenants position. I don't understand him putting his dog down. I don't understand him killing himself.
     
  8. r.i.p. cheech!


    lol @ pressured. "Your dog is grandfathered in. But we don't like it. How about all this bullshit about unenforceable fines and "pressure"?" Um, how about "no"? gfy

    sad
  9.  
    Originally Posted by kellykip View Post

    Do you feel that the other building tenants' ignorance of pit bull mixes and consequential management pressure share some piece of the responsibility for what happened?

    yes.
     
  10.  
    Originally Posted by norcaljeff View Post

    r.i.p. cheech!

    lol @ pressured. "Your dog is grandfathered in. But we don't like it. How about all this bullshit about unenforceable fines and "pressure"?" Um, how about "no"? gfy

    sad

    Not sure how familiar you are with apartment living (maybe you are idk), but building management can make someone's life absolutely miserable - your heat stops working, warm water stops working, you get a super knocking on your door at 4AM because another tenant 'saw you drop a coffee cup in the lobby', etc. and have fun taking the time/cost of defending yourself - they have way more money to fight court actions than a tenant does.

    I'm not defending anything this guy did, but just putting that out there.
    Thread Starter
  11. Mankind is scary stupid
     
  12. Just another case of someone dying because of pitbulls and their ignorant owners.

    When will it all end?

    They should have a program kind of like guns for toys, but have it pitbulls for cute little birds. That way we can ban these ferocious beasts!
  13. Umm give the dog away or move. Pretty sure killing the dog and then killing yourself is the absolute worst solution to any problem ever.

    And clearly this guy had serious problems to begin with.

    Umm give the dog away or move. Pretty sure killing the dog and then killing yourself is the absolute worst solution to any problem ever.

    And clearly this guy had serious problems to begin with.
     
  14. option 1: move

    option 2: kill dog then self

    must of been a tough choice
  15.  
    Originally Posted by clemsonrich View Post

    And clearly this guy had serious problems to begin with.

    He wears a long sleeve shirt in the pool, that gave it away for me.
  16.  
    Originally Posted by clemsonrich View Post

    Umm give the dog away or move. Pretty sure killing the dog and then killing yourself is the absolute worst solution to any problem ever.

    And clearly this guy had serious problems to begin with.

    Umm give the dog away or move. Pretty sure killing the dog and then killing yourself is the absolute worst solution to any problem ever.

    And clearly this guy had serious problems to begin with.

    you can say that again!
  17.  
    Originally Posted by JRoth15 View Post

    you can say that again!


    Umm give the dog away or move. Pretty sure killing the dog and then killing yourself is the absolute worst solution to any problem ever.

    And clearly this guy had serious problems to begin with.

    Umm give the dog away or move. Pretty sure killing the dog and then killing yourself is the absolute worst solution to any problem ever.

    And clearly this guy had serious problems to begin with.
     
  18.  
    Originally Posted by Prestonluv View Post

    option 1: move

    option 2: kill dog then self

    must of been a tough choice

    What effect does constant harrassment have on your ability to make a rational decision that looks easy to the rest of us?

    In additon, for reasons listed in the OP (among others), moving may not have been so easy considering his circumstances.
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  19.  
    Originally Posted by kellykip View Post


    In additon, for reasons listed in the OP (among others), moving may not have been so easy considering his circumstances.

    So the next course of action is killing the dog then himself? I wish certain OTers were as easily persuaded as this guy, I would harrass them all the time!
  20.  
    Originally Posted by Prestonluv View Post

    option 1: move

    option 2: kill dog then self

    must of been a tough choice

    If there was a stat of % of posts you come off ass a dbag you would be ahead of kellykip niceguy and amartin combined
  21.  
    Originally Posted by kellykip View Post

    What effect does constant harrassment have on your ability to make a rational decision that looks easy to the rest of us?

    In additon, for reasons listed in the OP (among others), moving may not have been so easy considering his circumstances.


    Exactly, suicide is def the better option in this case.....

    .....


    I don't care how much money you have etc, suicide in this case is the fucking last option you should do. Fuck this guy for getting attention about a selfish act, people commit suicide everyday for a lot worse things. What about the guy who lost his job, came home to his wife fucking another dude, and lost his son in the war? Where is the article for that guy?
  22. seriously, why couldn't he just tell everyone to fuck off. he was allowed to have the dog in there, i seriously woulda told everyone to get off my ass and fuck off. can't believe he resulted to that instead of this.
     
  23. No comment on this thread. KK you're pm box is full. To answer your PM - You aren't crazy and I agree.
  24.  
    Originally Posted by Glo4m View Post

    So the next course of action is killing the dog then himself? I wish certain OTers were as easily persuaded as this guy, I would harrass them all the time!

    This story just shows that there are lots of factors that build up leading to something like this, and when the person is emotionally weak to start with, it can lead to results that seem to make no sense to most of us.

     
    Originally Posted by 3kingme3 View Post

    If there was a stat of % of posts you come off ass a dbag you would be ahead of kellykip niceguy and amartin combined

    I think he compartmentalizes issues in a black and white manner that prevents him from 'walking a mile in someone else's shoes'.
    Edited By: kellykip Jan 30th, 2012 at 06:45 PM
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  25.  
    Originally Posted by quietwinner View Post

    seriously, why couldn't he just tell everyone to fuck off. he was allowed to have the dog in there, i seriously woulda told everyone to get off my ass and fuck off. can't believe he resulted to that instead of this.

    non new yorkers will just never understand the way appt buildings work up there. lol at finding another place in manhattan or telling your apt manager and all tennants to fuck off. not an option.
  26. it's sad, but for the umpteenth time, it isn't exactly illogical to be more afraid of pit bulls than other dogs. they are, on average, more dangerous. there is a reason why it is more difficult to obtain home owner's insurance if you have a pit bull. it isn't because actuaries are biased against pit bulls; it's because they are more likely to cause injury than other breeds of dog.
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  27. dude should of had a cat....
     
  28. Overreaction of the century. He should have called a lawyer.
  29. While many of you have astutely set forth some of the many alternatives he had. They were clearly not alternatives he gave much weight to, given the fact that he chose to end his own life. He obviously had a mental illness that caused this result. It's not like he sat down and wrote out the pros and cons of each alternative. He didn't make a bad decision after thinking it through or even on a whim. He killed himself for reasons far bigger than his neighbors being mad about his dog.
  30.  
    Originally Posted by Willywoo View Post

    While many of you have astutely set forth some of the many alternatives he had. They were clearly not alternatives he gave much weight to, given the fact that he chose to end his own life. He obviously had a mental illness that caused this result. It's not like he sat down and wrote out the pros and cons of each alternative. He didn't make a bad decision after thinking it through or even on a whim. He killed himself for reasons far bigger than his neighbors being mad about his dog.

    yeah, the other options on his short list mustve really sucked.

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