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  1.  
    Originally Posted by Justman View Post

    The military doesn't do enough to mentally prepare soldiers to go to war.
    I disagree . . .
    The military doesn't do enough to mentally prepare soldiers to come home after war.
    I agree 100%

    See bolded.
  2.  
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    To all of you who say "well they beheaded our guys..." Aren't we supposed to lead by example? How the hell do we complain about other country's human rights violations when we violate human rights as well?

    Let's just take over the world.
  3. Why should we treat them better than they treat us?

    because WE'RE . . . NOT. . . THEM!

    You fucking morons.
  4.  
    Originally Posted by MarkH View Post

    Why should we treat them better than they treat us?

    because WE'RE . . . NOT. . . THEM!

    You fucking morons.

    "Them" and "us" is a false paradigm. We are all just pawns.

    The light pawn bears more similarity to the dark pawn than to the white king or queen.

  5.  
    Originally Posted by Milo View Post

    See bolded.




    I suggest reading this book and seeing if you change your mind. Written by a Vietnam vet.
    Edited By: Justman Jan 13th, 2012 at 01:06 AM
  6. if you brainwash some guys and turn them into killing machines then you might have to deal with them pissing on some corpses.

    what they did is really wrong and fucked up though.
  7.  
    Originally Posted by Justman View Post



    I suggest reading this book and seeing if you change your mind. Written by a Vietnam vet.

    Not likely . . . I have a couple friends who have done tours in Afghanistan, and 1 who served in Rwanda when the genocide happened there. I have heard enough first hand details of some pretty fucked up shit to last me a lifetime. I have been blessed that I never had to do so during my service.
  8. not sure why this is all I think of when someone mentions pissing on someone...

  9. hope this isn't a repost

  10.  
    Originally Posted by clemsonrich View Post

    Nobody had to take a dump? shame.

    ^^^^
  11.  
    Originally Posted by Oh Rale View Post

    Why is everyone fuckin double posting?

    the ones listed for fema camps by home land security get double printed. its a glitch in their online tracking system.
  12.  
    Originally Posted by kowboy8686 View Post

    the ones listed for fema camps by home land security get double printed. its a glitch in their online tracking system.

    imma rape the shit outta ncj at the civilian internment camps . . . and prob throw in lordsupremo for good measure. boke gonna get some lovin, too.

    can't believe i used to hate u.
    Edited By: phish42O Jan 13th, 2012 at 04:25 AM
  13. Crap. Now they've pissed off the taliban.
  14.  
    Originally Posted by PANTERA View Post

    Crap. Now they've pissed off the taliban.

    lol
  15.  
    Originally Posted by PANTERA View Post

    Crap. Now they've pissed off the taliban.


    dear the precedent,

    i give you, your fellow pawn.

    enjoy,
  16. “The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.

    “As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.”

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ll_616699.html

     
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    To all of you who say "well they beheaded our guys..." Aren't we supposed to lead by example? How the hell do we complain about other country's human rights violations when we violate human rights as well?


    we can't force our morals down other people's throats, man. ;-)
  17. fking this ^^^^
  18. I'm just afraid that if we fight them too fiercely they might try to attack our homeland and kill our civilians.
  19.  
    Originally Posted by norcaljeff View Post

    “The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.

    “As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.”

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ll_616699.html

    Edited By: Hateflops Jan 13th, 2012 at 09:02 PM
  20.  
    Originally Posted by Mr Galt View Post

    I'm just afraid that if we fight them too fiercely they might try to attack our homeland and kill our civilians.

    Muhammed Galt just posted the same thing on pocketallahs.com
     
  21.  
    Originally Posted by watson5j View Post

    not sure why this is all I think of when someone mentions pissing on someone...



    ^and this.
  22.  
    Originally Posted by norcaljeff View Post

    “As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.”

    That's a dumb statement. Doubt many commanders have been shot at by the taliban. Doubt the Commander in Chief has. That statement implies that the very citizens who are supposed to run the military should just shut up when it comes to the military. Other than that I agree with what you posted.
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  23.  
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    That's a dumb statement. Doubt many commanders have been shot at by the taliban. Doubt the Commander in Chief has. That statement implies that the very citizens who are supposed to run the military should just shut up when it comes to the military. Other than that I agree with what you posted.

    Because our commanders are randoms off the street with no previous military experience
  24.  
    Originally Posted by TINNAL View Post

    Because our commanders are randoms off the street with no previous military experience

    That wasn't a qualification for being able to speak in the statement I quoted.
     3
  25. The top ranking JAG NCO and Warrant officer were killed in Iraq. The non-linear battlefield exposes all in combat zone to relatively high levels of danger.
  26.  
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    That's a dumb statement. Doubt many commanders have been shot at by the taliban. Doubt the Commander in Chief has. That statement implies that the very citizens who are supposed to run the military should just shut up when it comes to the military. Other than that I agree with what you posted.

    Some guy did put a few rounds into the Commander in Chief's house a few months back tho.

    As for the West quote, it may have been broad, but the people it was directed know who they are.
  27.  
    Originally Posted by Willywoo View Post

    Some guy did put a few rounds into the Commander in Chief's house a few months back tho.

    As for the West quote, it may have been broad, but the people it was directed know who they are.

    I just think "warning" citizens to not comment on human rights violations perpetrated by our military seems a bit Orwellian to me.
     3
  28. this kind of shit happened on the reg back when i served in 'Nam.
     
  29.  
    Originally Posted by AmSlim22 View Post

    Muhammed Galt just posted the same thing on pocketallahs.com

    Ah Slim. Your hate America schtick never gets old. I can't think of any difference between targeting the WTC full of civilans versus targeting a building full of terrorists. Wars have collateral damage by the way. We go out of our way to limit it. The enemy specifically targets civilians. If you can't see the difference I feel sad for you.
  30.  
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    I just think "warning" citizens to not comment on human rights violations perpetrated by our military seems a bit Orwellian to me.

    He was just stating his opinion in a less than eloquent way that some people comment on things they know little about. I didn't take it as a warning, more of a "shut up", as in learn more about the subject before you speak. I think he agrees that the conduct was bad as he has even suggested a punishment, but probably not as severe as many people would like.
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