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Over 100 million copies of call of duty have been sold.
1 guy shot 60 people last night.
We should regulate video games better.
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Craziest story to wake up to.
I talked my girlfriend into seeing the movie last night at this same theater after we had some drinks with friends. We went in and the only seats left were in the front of the theater. We were there pretty early, like 11:15. After about 30 minutes, we decided to leave because neither of us wanted to watch it in the front. Not sure where in the theater this was, but I was there last night 15 minutes before this went down. My girlfriend is freaking out. Decent chance we dodged a bullet last night.
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sarcasm meter broke JBG....really bad
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awesome life rungood
Originally Posted by TwystedPair
Craziest story to wake up to.
I talked my girlfriend into seeing the movie last night at this same theater after we had some drinks with friends. We went in and the only seats left were in the front of the theater. We were there pretty early, like 11:15. After about 30 minutes, we decided to leave because neither of us wanted to watch it in the front. Not sure where in the theater this was, but I was there last night 15 minutes before this went down. My girlfriend is freaking out. Decent chance we dodged a bullet last night.
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because you are using the material to sexually abuse the victim again and again. They are recordings of actual crimes that took place. Movies and video games are make beleive silly
Originally Posted by niptuck
The years of mental instablility were treated....it was probably fertalized and expanded due to such violent visual images in movies and video games. Movies are an occasional event for most teen men. Video games, once you buy them, can be played for free over and over and you can fixate on the violence and killing all day long every day and get rush from it. That has to play a part in some of these shootings.
Child porn is illegal. Why isn't glorifying other illegal acts illegal?
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wow - play lottery this weekend brahj
Originally Posted by TwystedPair
Craziest story to wake up to.
I talked my girlfriend into seeing the movie last night at this same theater after we had some drinks with friends. We went in and the only seats left were in the front of the theater. We were there pretty early, like 11:15. After about 30 minutes, we decided to leave because neither of us wanted to watch it in the front. Not sure where in the theater this was, but I was there last night 15 minutes before this went down. My girlfriend is freaking out. Decent chance we dodged a bullet last night.
Burn in hell coward -
Here's some others from before Columbine.
Edited By: Willywoo Jul 20th, 2012 at 04:23 PM
August 1966 A gunman holed up in a clocktower at the University of Texas campus in Austin killed 15 people before being shot by police.
February 1983 Three men shot dead 14 people in the Wah Mee club in Seattle's Chinatown.
July 1984 Some 21 people were killed when a 41-year-old opened fire at a McDonald's restaurant in San Diego. He was shot by police.
August 1986 A former postal worker entered a post office in Oklahoma, and shot 14 workers before killing himself.
February 1988 An ex-employee returned to his laboratory in Sunnyvale, California, and killed seven people, and injured three - including a woman he had been stalking.
October 1991 Previously, the worst mass shooting had been when George Hennard drove his pickup to Luby's cafeteria in Killeen, Texas, then shot dead 23 people and himself.
July 1993 A businessman, 55, entered a law office in San Francisco and shot dead eight people, then himself.
April 1999 The most notorious campus shooting of modern times: two students at Columbine high school in Littleton, Colorado, killed 12 students and a teacher before killing themselves.
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wow was getting PhD in neuroscience, dropped out last month. obviously intelligent and had thought this out.
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Edited By: niptuck Jul 20th, 2012 at 04:23 PMI'm not suggesting a direct cause and effect. Nor do I even know if this guy every played violent games. But logic tell me that if 100 million copies glorifying child porn were sold then we would see more cases of child rape. It s hard to disagree with that. That is how I manage to have logic like this.Originally Posted by Jaybone2315
Over 100 million copies of call of duty have been sold.
1 guy shot 60 people last night.
We should regulate video games better.
How do people even manage to have this logic lol.
However, I do have a problem with the slippery sope of banning anythig whether it is violent murderous images or images of other horrible illegal acts.
Reason: why are child porn video games illegal but murder video games arn't?????? Waiting.... -
wow, that is nuts.
Originally Posted by TwystedPair
Craziest story to wake up to.
I talked my girlfriend into seeing the movie last night at this same theater after we had some drinks with friends. We went in and the only seats left were in the front of the theater. We were there pretty early, like 11:15. After about 30 minutes, we decided to leave because neither of us wanted to watch it in the front. Not sure where in the theater this was, but I was there last night 15 minutes before this went down. My girlfriend is freaking out. Decent chance we dodged a bullet last night.
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Aug. 1, 1966: Charles Whitman opened fire from the clock tower at the University of Texas at Austin, killing 16 people and wounding 31.
July 12, 1976: Edward Charles Allaway, a custodian in the library of California State University, Fullerton, fatally shot seven fellow employees and wounded two others.
July 18, 1984: James Oliver Huberty, an out-of-work security guard, kills 21 people in a McDonald's restaurant in San Ysidro, Calif. A police sharpshooter kills Huberty.
Aug. 20, 1986: Pat Sherrill, 44, a postal worker who was about to be fired, shoots 14 people at a post office in Edmond, Okla. He then kills himself.
Aug. 19, 1987: Michael Ryan, 27, kills 16 people in small market town of Hungerford, England, and then shoots himself dead after being cornered by police.
Dec. 6, 1989: Marc Lepine, 25, bursts into Montreal's Ecole Polytechnique college, shooting at women he encounters, killing nine and then himself.
June 18, 1990: James Edward Pough shoots people at random in a General Motors Acceptance Corp. office in Jacksonville, Fla., killing 10 and wounding four, before killing himself.
Oct. 16, 1991: A deadly shooting rampage took place in Killeen, Texas, as George Hennard opened fire at a Luby's Cafeteria, killing 23 people before taking his own life. 20 others were wounded in the attack.
March 13, 1996: Thomas Hamilton, 43, kills 16 kindergarten children and their teacher in elementary school in Dunblane, Scotland, and then kills himself.
April 28, 1996: Martin Bryant, 29, bursts into cafeteria in seaside resort of Port Arthur in Tasmania, Australia, shooting 20 people to death. Driving away, he kills 15 others. He was captured and imprisoned.
should I be blaming Columbine or first-person shooters? dilemmas...
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I heard a guy in an interview this morning say he was in the front row on the right side and got out ok. Apparently the guy walked in on the bottom left hand side of the theater and started opening up. If you were front row left-side, theater 9, you dodged a massive bullet.
Originally Posted by TwystedPair
Craziest story to wake up to.
I talked my girlfriend into seeing the movie last night at this same theater after we had some drinks with friends. We went in and the only seats left were in the front of the theater. We were there pretty early, like 11:15. After about 30 minutes, we decided to leave because neither of us wanted to watch it in the front. Not sure where in the theater this was, but I was there last night 15 minutes before this went down. My girlfriend is freaking out. Decent chance we dodged a bullet last night.
Burn in hell coward -
Edited By: whitealroker Jul 20th, 2012 at 04:30 PMViolence is something us and just about every country celebrates. You study miltary history in every school in this country and its not just now its been part of it since there was schools. Call of Duty is a WWII game orginally. You are recreating famous moments in history by killing nazis, japs.Originally Posted by niptuck
I'm not suggesting a direct cause and effect. Nor do I even know if this guy every played violent games. But logic tell me that if 100 million copies glorifying child porn were sold then we would see more cases of child rape. It s hard to disagree with that. That is how I manage to have logic like this.
However, I do have a problem with the slippery sope of banning anythig whether it is violent murderous images or images of other horrible illegal acts.
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Not that this is a thread that should be funny, but Hughes absolutely owned Page 1. I imagine I'll use the phrase "Some people just want to watch the world burn" if anyone brings this story up today while at work.
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Originally Posted by Admiral
If it's not video games, it will always be something else that people will blame to rationalize this kind of thing. This is not a rational act. Someone becoming "desensitized" to violence because of a video game doesn't cause a shooting like this, this is clearly years of mental instability that went untreated.
this and this...how can ppl keep spouting that anti video game/pop culture bullshit after considering these statements blows my mind, fucking tards -
This is correct. People can analyze it all they want. Bottomline is the only way to stop something like this is for someone to recognize the potential shooter has as problem and get him some help before he goes off. Mental healthcare and treatment in today's society is lacking. It's not gun laws or video games or anything else. It's unidentified or untreated mental illness.
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so whether something should be illegal or not is based on whether a country is proud? I am not sure any country is proud of killing people but it is definataly glorified. I would be ok with war type games if the shooters had to go thru actual enemy engagement protocols before taking a life. Not just yahoooo shoot em up
Originally Posted by whitealroker
Violence is something us and just about every country celebrates. You study miltary history in every school in this country and its now just now its been part of it since there was schools. Call of Duty is a WWII game orginally. You are recreating famous moments in history by killing nazis, japs.
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Just stop now.
Originally Posted by niptuck
so whether something should be illegal or not is based on whether a country is proud? I am not sure any country is proud of killing people but it is definataly glorified. I would be ok with war type games if the shooters had to go thru actual enemy engagement protocols before taking a life. Not just yahoooo shoot em up
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god ffs stfu
Originally Posted by niptuck
so whether something should be illegal or not is based on whether a country is proud? I am not sure any country is proud of killing people but it is definataly glorified. I would be ok with war type games if the shooters had to go thru actual enemy engagement protocols before taking a life. Not just yahoooo shoot em up
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wait wut? the world will be a much safer place with less human lives lost if we ALL walked around carrying a gun.
Originally Posted by Geoff Moore
basically yes.
I think that if someone would have been firing shots back at him, his mission would have been more difficult to complete.
do you disagree?
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I know this guy was nuts but why would he rig his apartment with explosives and then tell everyone he did it?
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The Happy Land Social Club murders from 1990 - not a shooting, but an intentional mass murder in Bronx; guy fills a plastic container with gasoline, spreads the gas on the only staircase out of the club, and ignites it: 87 dead.
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Willie, you are one of the clearest thinkers and communicators on this board. Prob number one. I agree that a potntial shooter needs to be recognized and helped. Obv his doesn't happen enough.
Originally Posted by Willywoo
This is correct. People can analyze it all they want. Bottomline is the only way to stop something like this is for someone to recognize the potential shooter has as problem and get him some help before he goes off. Mental healthcare and treatment in today's society is lacking. It's not gun laws or video games or anything else. It's unidentified or untreated mental illness.
I know you are against gov't banning almost anything and therefore you may be biased. But are you saying that if someone is raised around and constant exposure to violence they are Not more prone to becoming violent?
Perhaps limiting any gov't ban on anything like kiddie porn or violent games is less of an evil than banning them to reduce illegal acts - but that isn't your point above. You say it ISN'T video games. -
the pro gun control people baffle me. the only way gun control works is if NOBODY has a gun. do you think this is an actual possibility? we couldn't even get liquor abolished and that kills way more people than guns. so once you can realize that guns will always be around then what is your solution to this problem?
Originally Posted by moobs96
wait wut? the world will be a much safer place with less human lives lost if we ALL walked around carrying a gun.
lol. ok, you got me. i fell for it. levelllllll.
armed people vs gunman > unarmed people vs gunman imo










