Originally Posted by Willywoo

This is correct. People can analyze it all they want. Bottomline is the only way to stop something like this is for someone to recognize the potential shooter has as problem and get him some help before he goes off. Mental healthcare and treatment in today's society is lacking. It's not gun laws or video games or anything else. It's unidentified or untreated mental illness.

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Originally Posted by Geoff Moore

the pro gun control people baffle me. the only way gun control works is if NOBODY has a gun. do you think this is an actual possibility? we couldn't even get liquor abolished and that kills way more people than guns. so once you can realize that guns will always be around then what is your solution to this problem?

armed people vs gunman > unarmed people vs gunman imo

In general, I think gun control is a good thing. I think there should be limits on what and how many weapons one can have. That said, 70+ people were killed in Norway last year and from what I understand, Norway has much stricter gun laws.

The bottom line of this, is that it is hard to stop someone from shooting up soft targets if they so please. It is collateral damage for the freedoms we enjoy in this and other countries.

wow, crazy shit to wake up to. RIP everyone, glad to hear this guy is in custody.

and jfc at this ban video games debate

Blame the parents for not identifying and acting on the problem this individual clearly had.

 

Originally Posted by Unforseen

Blame the parents for not identifying and acting on the problem this individual clearly had.

You mean the parents of a 24 year old are to blame?

 

Originally Posted by Lord Supremo

and jfc at this ban video games debate

I don't think people are saying to ban video games, just that it might be slightly unrealistic to think there is zero possibility that they may in some way desensitize somebody towards violence.

 

Originally Posted by kellykip

I don't think people are saying to ban video games, just that it might be slightly unrealistic to think there is zero possibility that they may in some way desensitize somebody towards violence.

I'm more desensitized because of the news than any video game i've played

 

Originally Posted by kellykip

I don't think people are saying to ban video games.

 

Originally Posted by niptuck

This world needs help and ban violent video games imo.

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and obviously violent video games do desensitize people towards violence, there's tons of research on that as well as simple common sense, but the solution isn't to ban them.

 

Originally Posted by Popperhead

OMFG you can't fix stupid. Maybe if the assailant wasnt allowed to own any gun he wanted this may not have happened at all. Although doubtful just a thought

Plus he had a bulletproof vest so so chances are he just gets angry and kills hundreds

 

Originally Posted by Spiltbongwater

Think it is time they install body scanners at the entrance of all movie theaters, shopping malls, university campuses, grocery stores, Wal-Marts etc. Can hire the TSA to look after the security.

really hope these 2 posts are levels. that guys a pile of shit, really hope he doesnt die in jail so he gets to rot for years and years

 

Originally Posted by TheWacoKidd

speaking of not being able to fix stupid... my god dude. yeah, it's that simple.

I love how u completely ignored my final line in that quote. You honestly dont think there is any correlation to being able to purchase a massive variety of weapons fairly easily and the murder rates across USA. Look at Canada bro why do u think we have such low rates. a big reason is we do not have guns readily accesible and concealed permits. The criminals will always find a way but its more the fact that more guns = more shootings period

but in this case the guy is clearly to blame hes a fucking physco

 

Originally Posted by kellykip

Desensitization is a pretty gradual process, so that is probably not true.

Unless you are referring to news in general, in which case you might have a valid point.

He definitely meant the news in general. Now that coverage is so rampant with tragedies like this you can almost not help but become slightly desensitized to this kind of stuff until it hits so close to home.

 

Originally Posted by Lord Supremo

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and obviously violent video games do desensitize people towards violence, there's tons of research on that as well as simple common sense, but the solution isn't to ban them.

I prob agree with this. I'm just emotional right now. Shits crazy.

 

Originally Posted by Geoff Moore

I can't wait to hear what music this kid listened to so that we can blame that too

I hope it is Creed, so we can begin the serious discussion of whether they should be banned or not.

 

Originally Posted by slizza420

That was some 55 year old dude that was pissed off at the school board or whatever.

A lot of these recent school shooting have been carried out by young kids that are just completely nuts. This kid here was supposedly trying to imitate the bad guy from the Batman movie. That's why he was wearing a gas mask and bulletproof vest.

keep on spinning it, but your original post was incorrect.

 

Originally Posted by wantagolf

They play lots of video games in Japan. Do they have mass murders that are blamed on Video Game violence? I cant think of anytime i have read or saw anything like this in Japan.

Different cultures respond differently to external stimulii; I think it would be hard to make any conclusion about it's effects here based on Japan.