another no defense title run, make me $ ppl, Shogun is coming for what is his

The 2005 Pride FC Middleweight Grand Prix winner, Mauricio “Shogun” Rua, earlier this week did indeed sign a bout agreement to challenge UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Lyoto Machida, which will more than likely take place at UFC 104 from the Staples Center in Los Angeles, Calif., on Oct. 24.

SuperLutas.com.br was able to confirm the rumored match up with sources close to the Brazilian’s camp.

Rua is coming off a first round technical knockout of former 205-pound champion, Chuck Liddell, at UFC 97: “Redemption” last month. He defeated Mark Coleman via third round technical knockout in a lackluster performance earlier this year at UFC 93: “Franklin vs. Henderson” to earn a crack at the “Iceman.”

It’s perhaps not the match up that most fans expected, especially when UFC President Dana White revealed over the weekend that Quinton “Rampage” Jackson would be the first to challenge Machida for his newly-won world title. But that all went out the window a few days later when Jackson apparently pressed UFC officials to settle a score with Rashad Evans via The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 10 first rather than compete to get his belt back.

That left Machida — who flattened Evans at UFC 98 to win the belt — all of a sudden without a number one contender … until now.

Keep in mind that White did not announce the bout yesterday during a media conference call because he indicated that not all bout agreements were finalized. That more than likely means Machida — who is currently celebrating his big win on a beach near Belem — may still have to agree to the fight and formalize it with a signature.

We’ll keep you posted. http://mmamania.com/2009/05/29/ufc-1...da-in-october/

 

Originally Posted by ChocoThunder

another doucher thinking Lyoto won't win this fight, this is easy, no roids and Shogun stands no chance

Machida in 2 via murder.

QFT

 

Originally Posted by ChocoThunder

another doucher thinking Lyoto won't win this fight, this is easy, no roids and Shogun stands no chance

Machida in 2 via murder.

No doubt Shogun won't land a punch

 

Originally Posted by UhhMee

lmfao @ OP thinking Shogun has any fucking chance. GTFO you're clueless.

If you don't believe Shogun Rua has the talent to take out any 205 pounder in the world, then you are clueless, the dude was a phenom, if he is able to slowly regain his past form, he'll be a massive problem for everyone in that division, to suggest otherwise is simply being ignorant of his skill.

 

Originally Posted by Necro

lol todays casual fans seem totally clueless to how fights really are, or the fact that on any given night any fighter can lose

fyp

Still, I would put my money on Machida

What has shogun done to earn this title shot btw?

right, that's what i thought.

joke.

 

Originally Posted by stsitron

 

Originally Posted by GRIMYOAF

the thing is that while Machida has been very impressive so far, he hasnt beaten any1 that I consider to be even close to on the same level as Shogun(on his A game obv). Tito and Penn were washed up, Rashad is just a strong guy w/ quick hands, and Machida beat the worst Silva in mma, while Shogun has very precise striking, and a great ground game, so this really should be a great fight.

Where I think Machida has the biggest edge is that it seems like he has the better work ethic.

Either way, Machida vs Shogun is a great matchup, Rampage vs Evans is a great 1 too

LOL ok I'll bet you any amount that Machida wins.

I like how you neglected to mention that Machida has never lost a round let alone a fight. The guy doesn't get hit you can't lose when you don't get touched...

I never said that Machida will lose, I actually think he'll win, but I dont think it will be as easy as many think.

My whole point was that, as long as he brings his A game, Shogun will be by far Machida toughest test to date, and that it will be a great fight.

Furthermore, your "he hasnt lost a round" argument, while that feat is very impressive, it was mostly done against washed up opponents.

Rua was the best 205 in the world. Laughing at any new timer not knowing why Rua is the league of Machida. But every new fan knows MMA.

 

Originally Posted by MikeyRy

What has shogun done to earn this title shot btw?

right, that's what i thought.

joke.

since when have you had to prove yourself to get a title shot in the ufc. just ask the hw champ about his long road to the title. kinda similar to rua's journey to a title shot huh. but srlsy rua does deserve a shot just off the strength of his career. he was the most dominant 205 in the world and that was when liddel was in the middle of his run.

Rua isn't abusing steroid anymore, and thats why he won't ever be the same. He'll come in underconditioned, if he makes weight at all, and Machida will work him over just like he does everyone else.

I'll lay $300 to $100 and take Lyoto if anyone is interested.

I'm a huge Shogun fan and I dont see how he even came close to earning this shot. Obv living in Japan I watched every single Pride event and was just amazed how bad ass these brazilians from Chute Box were. Shogun comes to UFC, injured and not in great shape and gets choked out by Griffin. Puke. Crocop, easily my favorite fighter, in pure irony gets knocked out by his own move. Double puke, even more puke than when Kevin Randleman KTFO'd him.

But I dont know who I'd put against Machida since Rampage and Rashad are going to be coaches then fight each other after TUF. I wouldnt want Machida on the sidelines that long so I guess who else but Shogun. Machida will destroy him though w/no problems at all.

I tried posting about this the day it happened, but didnt have a source, so didn't.

This is, actually, the best stylistic match up (except for maybe Forrest Griffin) that I can think of for Machida. However, we have no real evidence to suggest that Rua will be even close to ready by the time this fight comes around.

To clarify, this is not to say that Shogun is a bad fighter. He's obviously quite good. But, whenever I see someone saying Shogun will kill him, Shogun all day, etc...etc...that's absurd! Basing how good a fighter is from 2 + years ago? That's like saying Ken Shamrock would have beat Tito Ortiz at UFC 40 because of how well he performed when the UFC first started. It's so beyond ridiculous I can't even begin to explain it.

He got choked out by Forrest at UFC 74. That was a good fight. Then he doesn't fight again until UFC 93 against a 40 + year old Marc Coleman, and until that TKO one could easily see that Coleman was winning that fight! He looked awful at best. Then, he wins over Chuck Liddell at UFC 97, and based on those two performances alone, (again, you can't extrapolate fights from 2 + years ago to now...you can take skill sets, but those seem to have tarnished (though obviously are not gone) severely.

Remember, he is fighting, statistically, the most successful fighter in MMA History! I'll say it again. Machida is, statistically, the most successful fighter in MMA History! And Shogun is going to beat him? With what? What does he have that Machida hasn't seen, or can prepare for? And what's Rua's plan? Take him down? Nope, can't do that. Hit him? Good luck, that's been tried. Better catch lightning in a bottle.

Anyone who says Rua will win this fight with any sort of ease, if at all, is kidding themselves to the highest degree.

Machida takes this one fairly easily, and will hold that belt for quite some time. Rampage definately isn't taking it away from him. Forrest is the only one I can see giving him some semblance of a challenge.

And Lyoto Machida va. Anderson Silva will never happen. Stop saying it.

everybody is basing opinions on a fight vs forrest where he came in already hurt, got more hurt during the fight and was admittedly underconditioned because.... zomg he was hurt!!! He still put on a great show, besides that loss he really hasnt lost since 2003, so to say he is washed up is beyond a joke. The average North American fan has yet to see the true capabilities of Shogun, with the injury, adjustment to new rules and octogan and not being in full shape. If he comes in at 100%, taking him lightly would be the end of machida, but i dont think he will, it will be all about exposing machidas lead leg, then faking and going for a takedown, where i believe shogun has the advantage on the ground, we shall see.

To say Page has no shot is an insult, he may be a dog, but he has ground skills he rarely uses, he can take a shot, you never know, somebody is gonna make machida feel uncomfortable and i think thats gonna be on the ground, on his back, page could take a risk and get him in that position.

its funny only a few years later shogun is being overlooked, because of a new unbeatable fighter at 205.... only a few years ago he was that unbeatable fighter, and he is only 27.