Originally Posted by Diggity D

Boxing is only dead to the people that 'think' they are hard core followers.

The other night for Mayweather Cotto there were dumb chicks that knew about and were asking about the fight, every other guy I was with was aware of it/interested in it, the bars were packed with people watching it, talking about it, caring about it.

That shit NEVER happens for an MMA fight no matter who is fighting... Never. Boxing still runs through mainstream pop culture/media as hard as it ever did.

This is somewhat true for sure. My wife could name atleast 20 boxers and maybe one MMA fighter

 

Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16

MMA is not mainstream but boxing is nowhere near what it use to be. Boxing is dying. Yeah, everybody in the bar knows about the Mayweather or Pacman fight, do they know when there is a heavyweight championship fight? Not so much

Horse racing is nowhere near what it once was, but it's still a bigger deal than dog racing.

 

Originally Posted by Geoff Moore

UFC isn't mainstream? It's shown in 130 countries worldwide. A lot more people follow the UFC than OT thinks imo

No doubt. Every sports fan loves to watch a good fight, no matter if it's MMA or boxing. Boxing is still a much bigger deal worldwide, but they certainly had a big head start.

 

Originally Posted by voorh33s

the NFL is mainstream, in america anyways

Boxing and MMA are not

I watched the pimpweather and ufc on fox the other weekend but almost every single person I know didn't watch nor cared to watch and most didn't even know they were on. Neither sport gets any serious airtime on espn, boxing does more than mma, but still almost nothing compared to the real mainstream sports.

You mean except for the UFC being on FOX and getting advertised non-stop during NFL games, right?

Now that people understand the dangers of boxing hardly anybody wants their kid to be a fighter anymore.

I watched a great show by OTL yesterday where they were talking about the eventual demise of football. Look at the recent rule changes within the league. Look at the way the NFL tried to purposely withhold information regarding the seriousness and frequency of concussions.

It's sad to say but football will NEVER be the same. It's gonna get softer and softer. Eventually the popularity of the game will die out because most parents will no longer encourage their children to play football.

It's already becoming a powder puff league where QBs are throwing for 85 TDs and 29065 yards. It's getting ridiculous.

 

Originally Posted by Geoff Moore

MMA is probably the safest out of those 3 (Boxing,Football,MMA)

Most def!! MMA is def the safest of the 3. They only fight 3-5 rounds and often the majority of the fight is spent grappling.

 

Originally Posted by slizza420

Most def!! MMA is def the safest of the 3. They only fight 3-5 rounds and often the majority of the fight is spent grappling.

It'll be interesting to see how much better MMA guys get, if you finally get a bunch of kids training in MMA their entire life like in boxing. I think the sport could see a big growth in good fighters, instead of a bunch of guys that took the sport up as adults. Imagine the level of competition with a bunch of guys that trained their entire lives, instead of a large portion of more talented DrGHouse's.

Oh, and I understand that a decent amount of guys wrestled and what not, but that isn't the same as training as a MMA your entire life.

 

Originally Posted by Geoff Moore

I've been following MMA fairly religiously for the past 10 years or so and can't believe how much the competition has progressed. This is why everyone should watch Jonny Bones Jones whenever they have an opportunity. At any given time anyone can win the fight and the underdog wins more in fighting than in any other sport. Except for JBJ, he has never lost...that is fucking amazing at the level of competition he competes at (last 4 wins were against former World Champs, and he crushed them all). This is the same reason I watch that bitch Mayweather fight every single time, because of how unbelievably talented he is. Boxing fans should watch a couple JBJ fights before deciding that boxing>mma imo

I've watched every JBJ fight starting with the one that he was DQ'd in, but I still think boxing>MMA.

 

Originally Posted by Geoff Moore

die hard gonna die hard, and I don't blame you.

But for me:

Being good at lots of things>being good at one thing

As if die hard MMA fans are any different. I do enjoy watching both sports, tho.

 

Originally Posted by Geoff Moore

Being good at lots of things>being good at one thing

I don't think that's a fair comparison. They are different sports. It's like comparing Olympic high dive to the 200m freestyle. Yeah, they both swim, but that's where the similarities end.

 

Originally Posted by Geoff Moore

do you agree that there is boximg in the UFC?

Obviously there is. It's a much different type of boxing, but there's boxing.

I just watched that 15 min feature on Timothy Bradley (HBO) and I can honestly say that I'm kind of hyped up to watch him fight Manny on June 9. Bradley isn't really a power puncher (from the highlights I saw) but he has a lot of heart and he's really scrappy. Good hand speed too. Should be a great fight!

 

Originally Posted by slizza420

Watched a replay of the Cotto fight yesterday. Was surprised to see Floyd rope a dope and stuff. I thought Cotto should have tried to bang the body more cause Floyd wasn't giving him anything to hit.

Pretty sick how quick Floyd is to duck or roll with punches. Amazing defense. I take back what I said earlier I'd love to watch him fight Manny. Would be a modern day superfight. Hopefully they don't end up fighting when they are both past their primes.

They are both already past their primes.

 

Originally Posted by ltquick

They are both already past their primes.

They are starting to get a lil older but I'd say they're both still pretty much at their peak. Tough wars take a lot off a fighters career and neither one of em really has a whole lot of wear and tear on em. Most of their fights have been so one sided.

Floyd gets hit more because he's trying to become more of an offensive fighter. He tried to rope a dope some against Cotto he NEVER would have done that a few years ago. His punches are so weak tho. Those looping right hands he kept throwing were effective as far as scoring goes but they weren't really hurting Cotto at all.

God I miss the days of watching guys like Chavez just destroy people. Body punching is such a lost art.