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  1. i prolly wont ever vote again in my lifetime. they are all fuck puppets that do whats best for them/their party/their gain.

    fuck politics.
  2. Evangelical Christians must hate him
  3. I like Romney because he isn't afraid to adjust his position on issues based on core audience and political climate.

    He isn't bogged down by personal convictions.
  4.  
    Originally Posted by kellykip View Post

    I like Romney because he isn't afraid to adjust his position on issues based on core audience and political climate.

    He isn't bogged down by personal convictions.

    LOL
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  5.  
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    Understanding the Constitution is a good start. But you talked about his experience as "CEO" and being able to turn around companies. For a president to be able to do that or use that experience you have to believe that he should have a lot of power over the economy.

    The CEO's overall decisions to turn a company around and reach what ever goals they may have, and for a company that is usually to make money, takes leadership and an overall vision of what it's going to take to reach those goals. He has also proven such while running the state of Massachusetts. Again, I'm not saying he's the best out there, but I'm saying he's better than anyone else running at this time.
  6.  
    Originally Posted by Lameass_ View Post

    i prolly wont ever vote again in my lifetime. they are all fuck puppets that do whats best for them/their party/their gain.

    fuck politics.

    Thread Starter
  7. And on TV they just asked the Romney voters why they voted for him. Nobody would volunteer to explain why they voted for him. Is this some kind of sick joke?

    "Romney''s honest and can beat Obama".
    "Santorum is the most conservative".

    I have no faith in this country.
    Edited By: SerlinSteak19 Feb 8th, 2012 at 02:29 AM
  8.  
    Originally Posted by jhesser View Post

    The CEO's overall decisions to turn a company around and reach what ever goals they may have, and for a company that is usually to make money, takes leadership and an overall vision of what it's going to take to reach those goals. He has also proven such while running the state of Massachusetts. Again, I'm not saying he's the best out there, but I'm saying he's better than anyone else running at this time.

    I don't understand. A CEO would be closer to a dictator than a president.
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  9. Its the leadership aspect Dyz. I'm getting that jhesser is saying that it shows leadership qualities.

    towards accomplishing a goal

    you can argue the goal...
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  10.  
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    I don't understand. A CEO would be closer to a dictator than a president.

    Dude, do you just make shit up as you go. No, seriously, sometimes you make since. And other times, I just wonder if you do it to fuck with people.

     
    Originally Posted by jesterwords View Post

    Its the leadership aspect Dyz. I'm getting that jhesser is saying that it shows leadership qualities.

    towards accomplishing a goal

    you can argue the goal...

    Winner
  11.  
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    I don't understand. A CEO would be closer to a dictator than a president.

    finally my teachings are having an impact ... snatch the pebble from my hand :)

    http://www.afi.es/EO/Paul%20Krugman%...%20company.pdf
  12.  
    Originally Posted by jesterwords View Post

    Its the leadership aspect Dyz. I'm getting that jhesser is saying that it shows leadership qualities.

    towards accomplishing a goal

    you can argue the goal...

    There are different kinds of leadership. I would argue that Paul has been a political leader which is more important for a president than being a business leader. Hell, even Newt has more political leadership experience than Romney. Oh well, what do I know.

     
    Originally Posted by saxman View Post

    finally my teachings are having an impact ... snatch the pebble from my hand :)

    http://www.afi.es/EO/Paul%20Krugman%...%20company.pdf

    Didn't read it but I definitely agree with the headline.
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  13. its a good read Dyz - short essay on PDF. Give it a look when you have the time.
  14.  
    Originally Posted by jhesser View Post

    Dude, do you just make shit up as you go. No, seriously, sometimes you make since. And other times, I just wonder if you do it to fuck with people.

    Well lets look at it logically. A president needs the approval of Congress and ultimately the Supreme Court to get a law passed and have it stay a law. A dictator has to answer to no one. A business owner has to answer to no one. Hmm...
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  15. Its not about what you know this time in this thread. I asked other people what reasons are there to support this particular candidate against the POTUS. The reason is that it appears as though Mitt is going to be the one going against POTUS Obama.

    I'm not one who has followed Mitt. I am NOT a fan of his at all. I asked others why they might support him. Its not about anything other than their opinions of this specific situation.

    The scope of this discussion is not really wide enough to give a shit about mine, or your, personal "know." (bad grammar on purpose)
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  16. For the well being of the country, the President should be whoever the most effective advocate for New York is.
  17.  
    Originally Posted by kellykip View Post

    For the well being of the country, the President should be whoever the most effective advocate for New York is.

    FFS, the only correct answer to that would be Benedict Arnold.
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  18.  
    Originally Posted by jesterwords View Post

    Its not about what you know this time in this thread. I asked other people what reasons are there to support this particular candidate against the POTUS. The reason is that it appears as though Mitt is going to be the one going against POTUS Obama.

    I'm not one who has followed Mitt. I am NOT a fan of his at all. I asked others why they might support him. Its not about anything other than their opinions of this specific situation.

    The scope of this discussion is not really wide enough to give a shit about mine, or your, personal "know." (bad grammar on purpose)

    Doesn't look like this is a certainty right now.
  19.  
    Originally Posted by jesterwords View Post

    The reason is that it appears as though Mitt is going to be the one going against POTUS Obama.

    Tonight's results are throwing a monkey wrench into that assumption. But ok I'll stay out of your fact finding thread.
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  20. the media has been selling it

    like anyone isn't going to say that the Media hasn't been selling Mitt?

    really?
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  21.  
    Originally Posted by saxman View Post

    finally my teachings are having an impact ... snatch the pebble from my hand :)

    http://www.afi.es/EO/Paul%20Krugman%...%20company.pdf

    Ok, maybe I'm going about saying it incorrectly. Just because your a good CEO doesn't make you a good president. But he's considered a turn around specialist with companies. I've seen them over the years, people at the bottom usually call them guillotine managers, or hack specialists or what ever. They come in and trim a shit ton of fat and unnecessary waste from the company. And in my opinion that is what needs to be done with the government.

     
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    Well lets look at it logically. A president needs the approval of Congress and ultimately the Supreme Court to get a law passed and have it stay a law. A dictator has to answer to no one. A business owner has to answer to no one. Hmm...

    Seriously, WTF. Now I know your fucking with my head.
  22. Rick Santorum's showing tonight has fucked Mitt's 'steam.'

    Interesting dialog the American people are creating. A nation divided is clearly the message (outside of Obama supporters obviously).
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  23. They are everywhere in here.
  24. Don't worry, this is how liberals felt in '04. Mitt will likely have similar success as Kerry.
  25.  
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    Well lets look at it logically. A president needs the approval of Congress and ultimately the Supreme Court to get a law passed and have it stay a law. A dictator has to answer to no one. A business owner has to answer to no one. Hmm...

    CEO =/= Owner
  26. So you want your president to run the country like a private equity firm. I'm sure a president's decision parameters include a few more factors than a CEO of a PE firm. Sure some of those skills will help him be president, but not nearly as many as you think in my opinion.
     
  27. XXEDPXX

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    Nov 22nd, 2010 (11/22/2010 9:19pm) in reply to p00pymcp00perton
    i think its natural for certain americans not down with obama to want to go back to what they are used to. a rich white dude. someone i could see winning the republican nomination is mitt romney. to me he just fits perfectly with where i think the gop would wanna go. he is still young so they cant use the age thing like they did with mccain. he's one of those guys that been grooming for the presidency his whole life so I doubt they can find any major dirt on him. he is good looking. his look just fits in with the establishment.

    call me nostradamus mother fuckers

    I was quickly dismissed
    Edited By: XXEDPXX Feb 8th, 2012 at 04:45 AM
  28.  
    Originally Posted by sinatra22 View Post

    He understands the issues facing regular people and how the economy works. Obama hates the poor and is a socialist.

    LOL..he is SOOOO in touch with the American people.. 10000 dollar bet in a debate? Not worried or focused on the poor.
    Edited By: OldGrowth Feb 8th, 2012 at 04:49 AM
  29.  
    Originally Posted by XXEDPXX View Post

    XXEDPXX

    Posts: 7,919
    Joined: Mar 07

    Nov 22nd, 2010 (11/22/2010 9:19pm) in reply to p00pymcp00perton

    i think its natural for certain americans not down with obama to want to go back to what they are used to. a rich white dude. someone i could see winning the republican nomination is mitt romney. to me he just fits perfectly with where i think the gop would wanna go. he is still young so they cant use the age thing like they did with mccain. he's one of those guys that been grooming for the presidency his whole life so I doubt they can find any major dirt on him. he is good looking. his look just fits in with the establishment.

    call me nostradamus mother fuckers

    I was quickly dismissed

    I don't understand. What about your post was going out on a limb? Romney was the frontrunner for the GOP in Nov 2010. All of the traits you mentioned are stuff we already knew because he already tried to run for President. If anyone disagreed with anything in that post in Nov 2010, they were/are morons.
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    Originally Posted by Hodge05 View Post

    I don't understand. What about your post was going out on a limb? Romney was the frontrunner for the GOP in Nov 2010. All of the traits you mentioned are stuff we already knew because he already tried to run for President. If anyone disagreed with anything in that post in Nov 2010, they were/are morons.

    I knew this would happen. He was essentially the only guy running or the only guy everyone knew was gonna run. Everybody thought the health care thing gave him no chance. Mitt Romney was not the favorite. Honestly though I had been saying that to people a good year before I posted it on here. That was just the first and only time I said it on here. I'm just joking around anyway. But people werent talking about Romney then like he was gonna be the candidate. nobody was really even talking about the next election at that point. It was still too early. People were still bitching more about Obama. The 2012 election wasnt really even being discussed.

    As crazy as it sounds Palin was probably the favorite at that point. Maybe not the favorite. There really wasnt a true favorite at that point. It was just too early. She was the person everybody was talking about though. Romney wasnt really being talked about at all. He was in the background around that time.

    The thread was about Palins chance of beating Obama in the next election. I'd think if Romney was the big frontrunner at that point someone itt would have brought up his name. I was the only person that even mentioned him. But somehow he was the clear favorite at that point?
    Edited By: XXEDPXX Feb 8th, 2012 at 05:21 AM