just off the top of my head.

1. aj burnett.
2. fuck you pavano.
3. irabu. was supposed to be nolan ryan.

 

Originally Posted by Lameass_

brewers really dont have this problem yet since they havent made many trades.

i still think we gave up too much for grienke, but a ws will make me shut my mouth on that.

we went on a nice run of trading away all of our good players. so i know how the pirates feel

edit: i dont know how i got traded out of free agent.

to answer the question again. Jeff Suppan

fyp

Anyone/everyone the cubs ever signed or traded for in the past 20 years not named Matt Garza.

And the Reyes issue is an absolute disaster for the mets GM as mentioned. How can you ship a guy 100 mill who has bad hammys? But how can he let him go knowing if he somehow gets back to his old self he is the most dynamic player in the game? I'd personally pass on him, bad hammys on a speed guy is never a good sign, those things linger forever and never really go away.

Richie Sexson + Jeff Cirillo

 

Originally Posted by BigEarn7

Anyone/everyone the cubs ever signed or traded for in the past 20 years not named Matt Garza.

And the Reyes issue is an absolute disaster for the mets GM as mentioned. How can you ship a guy 100 mill who has bad hammys? But how can he let him go knowing if he somehow gets back to his old self he is the most dynamic player in the game? I'd personally pass on him, bad hammys on a speed guy is never a good sign, those things linger forever and never really go away.

Appease the fans. If they don't resign him, they lose more then $20M a year in sales combined of ticket sales(they have a huge Spanish fan base due to all the Spanish stars they had (Beltran, K-Rod, Santana just to name a few). Santana will be back next year but no one knows what to expect so they need Reyes to appease that fan base if nothing else. Plus people do tune in to their network to watch him b/c he's beyond fun to watch, and obviously paraphernalia- idk any Met fan that doesn't have Reyes shirts and a Jersey. He's a franchise favorite.

They would give him $100M for PR reasons and the revenue he brings from all different areas to the franchise. They need all the positive PR they can get to make the fans a little less disgruntled.

The free agency list for this year is horrible. They can't make the fans happy unless they sign Reyes before FA. The only player that would make sense for them to grab would be C.J. Wilson whom they won't be able to obtain b/c the Yanks will scoop him up.

On another note, speculation says that they are gonna go hard after Kemp for the 2013 season. If they get him, and Wheeler and Harvey are ready to pitch in the bigs by then, it will be an exciting year for Mets fans...until they all basically die again obv.

Sorry for ramble, I'm an asshole...I took adderall at 2AM instead of my anti-inflammatory. FML I need sleep.

 

Originally Posted by tsxxx04

Appease the fans. If they don't resign him, they lose more then $20M a year in sales combined of ticket sales(they have a huge Spanish fan base due to all the Spanish stars they had (Beltran, K-Rod, Santana just to name a few). Santana will be back next year but no one knows what to expect so they need Reyes to appease that fan base if nothing else. Plus people do tune in to their network to watch him b/c he's beyond fun to watch, and obviously paraphernalia- idk any Met fan that doesn't have Reyes shirts and a Jersey. He's a franchise favorite.

They would give him $100M for PR reasons and the revenue he brings from all different areas to the franchise. They need all the positive PR they can get to make the fans a little less disgruntled.

The Mets are hemorrhaging money right now. I'd like to see you give the argument to Fred Wilpon that they can't afford not to give Reyes 100 million when the team is drowning in debt right now while operating at a loss. There's a very good chance Wilpon will need another bailout from the commissioners office just to make revenue sharing payments in November.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozan...from-baseball/

Telling the Mets they have to give Reyes $100 million for his popularity alone would be like telling Nintendo that they have to keep producing the original SNES in 2011 because people still like Duck Hunt.

 

Originally Posted by Mkind16

The Mets are hemorrhaging money right now. I'd like to see you give the argument to Fred Wilpon that they can't afford not to give Reyes 100 million when the team is drowning in debt right now while operating at a loss. There's a very good chance Wilpon will need another bailout from the commissioners office just to make revenue sharing payments in November.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozan...from-baseball/

Telling the Mets they have to give Reyes $100 million for his popularity alone would be like telling Nintendo that they have to keep producing the original SNES in 2011 because people still like Duck Hunt.

They aren't getting any more bailouts from comm. Office. That's been publicly stated.

its not simply a popularity contract though even tho he's injury prone, with 2 dl stints look at his numbers, he still manages yo accomplish more then most. I don't know that 20/5 will be the numbers but I do think it will be high annually with lots of incentives involved in order to make his $$. They have to offer x amount of years imo without incentives but if he accomplishes whatever they put in his contract, he will deserve the $$. I don't think they will throw $ at him like wash did to Werth but I think they r afraid of losing any more money in the park and through ratings, and that will happen if he hits he free market. Some team will offer him a ridic contract (my guess is the nats). Plus Alderson doesn't need approval they gave him the ability to do those things on his own cuz he's a money guy. Regardless even if they pay him 20/yr, only other pieces they will sign are bp guys so their payroll will be 40M+ less next yr prob.

Unless C.J. Wilson wanted to go to he Mets (lol) they aren't signing a SP and they r waiting til 2013 to try to get kemp acccording to the people I know who are close to re franchise. They can't dip too low onpayroll being in ny, I think Selig will try to push them out.

Also, they are gonna have a bunch of "small" investors soon I think. I would bet on them resigning him if I had an income lol. Its all business and he's a profitable player.

Just my worthless .02 but im looking at it from a business perspective cuz that's how alderson will.

 

Originally Posted by Xmas32

I disagree with this small portion of your post. If Mets' management knew a bunch of people who would be willing to invest $15-$20mm while getting zero say in how the team operates why did they come pretty close to doing the deal with David Einhorn? Maybe the Wilpons know tons of people with loose cash and are idiots. I'm guessing they don't.

B/C Einhorn was more of a loan, and if it wasn't paid back he got to buy the Wilpon's stake in the company for like $1 or something ridiculous like that. He also wanted say in the team decisions. If they get small investors, they won't have the ability to make team decisions b/c they own such a small % + they won't have the ability to force buy everyone else out if the Wilpon's don't fix their situation in X amount of years.

 

Originally Posted by TMLMS13

missed about a third of the year in 06 and 07,

best year was his contract year obv

don't think it's fair to blame players like pedro, johan and burnett for getting hurt. The signing don't work out doesn't mean it was a bad signing persay. When pitchers fail like aj in nyc that's a failure.

and enough about the fucking mets.

Pretty sure for the Dbacks it is Eric Byrnes.

 

Originally Posted by dolphin13

adam dunn

and the trades for alex rios (I still have hope for him) and Jake Peavy (gg with his 40 year old arm) are not looking good

Adam Dunn maybe the worst in the history of baseball, hes having one of the worst hitting year by any player ever, his batting average is outmatched by his strikeouts for christ sakes.

Rangers- Chan Ho Park 5 years 65 million
Reds- haven't really made any awful FA signings, haven't made any good ones either though

 

Originally Posted by SICKTIGHT311

Sorry OP, but it's definitely Kevin Brown for the Dodgers...Brown, being the largest contract ever for a pitcher at the time I believe, that was just a bust and a half.

Seriously? He was with the Dodgers for 5 years and gave them 3 really good, nearly ace-level years. Totally disagree that he was a bust. That's the best case scenario when you sign a 34-year old pitcher a 5 year contract.

Vernon Wells.