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MVP: Brady or Rodgers?

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  1. squinonez81 squinonez81 is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:42pm)

    http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post...rodgers-is-mvp

    As a pats fan I could argue that the article is right and that Brady deserves it. But I think it has to be Rodgers and its not even close. Who you got OTers?
  2. TheAlbatross TheAlbatross is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:44pm) in reply to squinonez81

    Rodgers ainec
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:44pm) in reply to TheAlbatross

    has to be rodgers imo
  4. Lord Supremo Lord Supremo is offline actually a tuvalu lord (sigh)

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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:44pm) in reply to kmc28

    Hard to argue against the QB of an undefeated team. That said, it sure seems like the Patriots would be neck-and-neck with the Colts in the Luck sweepstakes without Brady this year.
    Edited By: Lord Supremo Dec 8th, 2011 at 09:45 PM
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:45pm) in reply to Lord Supremo

    Pretty obv Peyton Manning should be MVP
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:46pm) in reply to XNASTYNATEX

     
    Originally Posted by XNASTYNATEX View Post

    Pretty obv Peyton Manning should be MVP

    this
     
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:46pm) in reply to XNASTYNATEX

     
    Originally Posted by XNASTYNATEX View Post

    Pretty obv Peyton Manning should be MVP

    this, he has proved this season that he is the most valuable player to his team
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:46pm) in reply to TMLMS13

    I think it is Rodgers, but I am surprised that Brees isn't getting more love. Like Rodgers, his numbers are ridiculous.
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:46pm) in reply to XNASTYNATEX

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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:48pm) in reply to Sandman_Good

    there is no way it is anybody but Rodgers
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:48pm) in reply to djg23

  12. ScottBrewr99 ScottBrewr99 is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:48pm) in reply to Hughes4

    Rodgers
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:49pm) in reply to ScottBrewr99

    this must be some sort of sick joke...brady shouldnt even be considered.

     
    Originally Posted by XNASTYNATEX View Post

    Pretty obv Peyton Manning should be MVP

    wrong manning there bud, were talking about the present
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:50pm) in reply to Cortz

    ESPN.com posted a Boston homer article? No way!!!
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:52pm) in reply to p00pymcp00perton

    if anything it's eli or rodgers.

    but it's rodgers
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:54pm) in reply to heavyj80

    if gb loses a game bradys def got a shot... till then no contest.
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:54pm) in reply to Lord Supremo

     
    Originally Posted by Lord Supremo View Post

    Hard to argue against the QB of an undefeated team. That said, it sure seems like the Patriots would be neck-and-neck with the Colts in the Luck sweepstakes without Brady this year.

    you can't really say that. Look at when Brady went down in 08. Nobody thought Cassel was any good. He didn't even start in college for fucks sake. Granted, the team in 08 was much better than the team now. But they still have Belichick, so I doubt the guys would quit on him like the Colts are doing to that black guy that took over for Dungy.

    You're just saying this because for the rest of time people will be comparing Brady and Manning in every possible facet, and you know it.
     
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:57pm) in reply to heavyj80

     
    Originally Posted by heavyj80 View Post

    if anything it's eli or rodgers.

    but it's rodgers



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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:58pm) in reply to Sandman_Good

    discount double check
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 9:59pm) in reply to sponge1430

    Brady's had a great season, but this isn't a tight race.

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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 10:00pm) in reply to Purple Jesus

    Ok saying Peyton was MVP was kinda sarcasm. The real answer is Rodgers. As far as differentiating Peyton/Brady, Brady has a coach who knows how to coach so him being injured wouldn't hurt as much.
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 10:02pm) in reply to gutbirdxx

    Rodgers in a landslide
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 10:02pm) in reply to JRoth15

    Should be Rodgers...that being said, I agree with an above poster - it's laughable that Brees isn't getting more thought.
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 10:03pm) in reply to rocksolid124

    I mean...maybe I'm just being a homer, but this article has a point. New England has one of the worst defenses in the league. The Patriots are winning and Brady is putting up monster numbers despite not having either a downfield receiving threat or a significant running attack. If the Packers lose a game or two and New England wins out, I would vote for Brady.
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 10:04pm) in reply to Lord Supremo

    anybody think brandon jacobs will get any consideration?
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    4 LVP?
    Edited By: Jwilkinson Dec 8th, 2011 at 10:04 PM
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 10:09pm) in reply to Chrono

     
    Originally Posted by Chrono View Post

    Granted, the team in 08 was much better than the team now.

    The team in 08 was almost infinitely better than the team in 11. The team in 08 was basically the same as the 07 team, which was the best team of all time. In 11, we have undrafted rookies and Julian fucking Edelman playing defense, not to mention no Randy Moss or any other credible downfield threat.

     
    Originally Posted by Chrono

    He didn't even start in college for fucks sake

    This is literally meaningless...he was behind two guys who won the Heisman ffs.

     
    Originally Posted by Chrono

    You're just saying this because for the rest of time people will be comparing Brady and Manning in every possible facet, and you know it.

    What? The Patriots minus Brady would be a bit better than the Colts minus Manning are because of the offensive line and because Brian Hoyer has been behind Brady for a while and is likely better than the QB carousel Indy has had...but this is not a winning team without a super-elite QB.
    Edited By: Lord Supremo Dec 8th, 2011 at 10:11 PM
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 10:10pm) in reply to Lord Supremo

    who's defensive player of the year

    Patrick Willis or Navarro Bowman?
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 10:10pm) in reply to Lord Supremo

     
    Originally Posted by Lord Supremo View Post

    New England has one of the worst defenses in the league.

    The Packers and Pats D aren't too far apart...both give up a shitload of yards, and both create a ton of turnovers. Rodgers has won games this year 42-34, 33-27, 45-38, 35-26, and 38-35. It's not like Green Bay is pitching shutouts and he's only having to score once to win.
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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 10:11pm) in reply to JRoth15

    Brees.

    PS, The Packers are mediocre on D, the Pats are turble...not that it matters a ton.
    Edited By: Randers Dec 8th, 2011 at 10:14 PM
    Reason: Being cereal it's aRodge
     
  30. JRoth15 JRoth15 is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2011 (12/8/2011 10:13pm) in reply to Randers

     
    Originally Posted by Randers View Post

    Brees

    is 2nd to Rodgers...Brady 3rd

    DYAR and DVOA both have Rodgers 1...Brees 2 in DYAR; Brady 2 in DVOA.

    Why Brees?

    EDIT--nvm just read your edit reason thing
    Edited By: JRoth15 Dec 8th, 2011 at 10:14 PM
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