[kellykip The Chosen One]

If Brook Lopez stays healthy and goes 20/9, the Nets are gonna be a bitch to deal with.

[Dsprin8171]

Welp, Randers post kinda ends this thread, right?

[SmokeyCasinos]

Metta crazy lol

[FadeToMac]

i was actually impressed with ron ron there. He gave a lot of props to bynum before saying anything else. In the past, i was generally attentive during an artest interview because he would say something stupid.

[rocksolid124]

Lakers also got Jodie Meeks on a lesser note :D

[MadProfesor]

Ron Ron is cray yo! <3

[p00pymcp00perton]

 

Originally Posted by rocksolid124

Lakers also got Jodie Meeks on a lesser note :D

It will be nice to have an option on the wing that can consistently knock down threes. Say what you want about Jim Buss vs. Jerry Buss - The Lakers management >>>>>

[BigStack Husker]

 

Originally Posted by rocksolid124

Lakers also got Jodie Meeks on a lesser note :D

Fuck now I have to root for one of the Lakers.

[Realbigfish4]

MMMMMM...... Just $43.1mill on the books for Orlando including the team options on the Sweed, O'Quinn, and Eyenga (assuming Q. Rich takes his option) next year. Gotta love all you tards that said the $ was the same for Orlando. They are clearing cap room faster with this deal.

Bring in the youth while Miami ships rings. Once Wade is gone and Lebron is 30+ Orlando will still be young and shipping the 2 seed, and a lose in the ECFs for years! Fuck I hate being a Magic fan....

[warden]

explain how you gained cap room in 13-14.

by my count, the only "under contract" players you dumped for that year were duhon and richardson. duhon's player option was $3.5M, richardson's deal is $6.2M. call it $10M that you freed up in 13-14.

...but you took on afflalo, harrington, harkless, and vuvevcivcivic. let's assume you decline vucievicviuc's option (you probably won't, but let's assume it). and you cut harrington, whose contract is only partially guaranteed.

here's the problem: afflalo makes $7.8M. harkless makes ~$1.8M. that's $9.6M without even taking into account that harrington's partial guarantee is SOMETHING (though i don't know what it is).

by my count, that means you didn't free up any cap room in 13-14.

i could be wrong. but i don't think i'm terribly wrong, and i don't see how you possibly freed up any significant amount of cap room. Edited By: warden Aug 12th, 2012 at 04:27 AM

[tmac456]

 

Originally Posted by Realbigfish4

MMMMMM...... Just $43.1mill on the books for Orlando including the team options on the Sweed, O'Quinn, and Eyenga (assuming Q. Rich takes his option) next year. Gotta love all you tards that said the $ was the same for Orlando. They are clearing cap room faster with this deal.

Bring in the youth while Miami ships rings. Once Wade is gone and Lebron is 30+ Orlando will still be young and shipping the 2 seed, and a lose in the ECFs for years! Fuck I hate being a Magic fan....

lol

[warden]

by the way, you also will be paying jameer nelson $8M+ a year, so i don't think this "cap room" thing was your goal. if it was, you wouldn't overpay a marginal starting PG like that.

[Realbigfish4]

Orlando was taking on new contracts regardless... whether it was Afflalo, Lopez, Scola, etc. New contracts were coming on board. This trade allowed Orlando to take on smaller contracts with more flexibility than any other offer.

I agree Nelson is being over paid, at least the 3rd year is only partially guaranteed. I actually think its a below avg starting PG. He does a horrid job of passing the ball into the paint, and is way under sized to gaurd just about anyone. But, there wasnt really any other option at PG when they re-signed him and the flavor of the month this off season was over paying everyone.

I also think Orlando made a bad decision by letting SVG go b4 they knew exactly what Dwight was doing. I'd still be surprised if McRoberts and Harrington (or Big Baby) arent dealt b4 the season for a back up PG. I mean, Orlando currently has 6 PF's on the roster.

*edit* Just look at the cap space that wouldve been available with max Lopez, and $12mill for Hump... Edited By: Realbigfish4 Aug 12th, 2012 at 05:26 PM

[AMARTIN1181 Is not a girl]

How does the ignore list work? I've always been strongly opposed to it but RBF has made me change my tune

[Realbigfish4]

 

Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181

How does the ignore list work? I've always been strongly opposed to it but RBF has made me change my tune

LOL this coming from the guy who thinks Eli is top 3 QB...

[Realbigfish4]

Just so it's perfectly clear. Im in no way saying the Magic got the best end of this deal. Obv the Lakers getting Dwight (as long as he doesnt end up a rental) got the best end. Im just saying this was the best deal on the table, giving the Magic the best chance to grow in the future. I will say Orlando came out of this better than Denver and Philly. While both of those teams got better Denver gave up a lot while making the Lakers title contenders, and Philly picked up a shit contract and a very possible rental in Bynum.

[warden]

 

Originally Posted by Realbigfish4

Gotta love all you tards that said the $ was the same for Orlando. They are clearing cap room faster with this deal.

that's what you said. and the money isn't the same.

first, hump's deal is only two years. it can't be that bad. that's the point of it. second, the reason why you'd "have" to take on lopez is because orlando didn't seem to have any interest in flipping him. as i said, i think you could *at minimum* pick up a protected first from someone. they didn't pursue that because they didn't want it. third, the houston deal is STILL better contract-wise. you get a bunch of young players, many of whom have team options if they don't pan out, and all of whom have smaller contracts. you aren't getting back scola; in fact, scola was amnestied *precisely* to help give houston the flexibility to trade for howard without shipping him back.

[I Fold]

Speaking of Cap space check out LA in a few years

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_lakers.htm Edited By: I Fold Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:03 PM

[TheAlbatross]

Larry Coon ‏@LarryCoon
Knicks salary + tax in 2006-07 was $162.1 million. Lakers 2013-14 will be about $185 million salary + tax if Howard re-signs (fixed tweet).

[Realbigfish4]

Here's what Hennigan had to say about the trade, "We feel this is the best deal for us, considering the circumstances. We talked to a lot of teams ... there were options that we looked at and explored, there were a lot of permutations of certain things."

It obv wont be clear how this will end for Orlando until the draft. I'm guessing they do ok, with a guaranteed top 3 (probably the 1st) pick and 3 picks in the 15-25 range. Shabazz, and 3 more 1st rounders to go along with Harkless, Nicholson, O'Quinn, the 3 other 21-23 year olds, and the ability to offer a max deal sounds pretty nice to me.

fwiw the Magic are already trying to shed Hedo's contract, but I have no clue who would be dumb enough to take it.

[Zeppelin world traveler]

 

Originally Posted by I Fold

Speaking of Cap space check out LA in a few years

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_lakers.htm

Doesn't look all that different than Boston

MBN to have a payroll 15 million higher than the next team in 2012.

[XXEDPXX]

Why are you assuming they will have the #1 pick? Why are you even guaranteeing a top 3 pick? That's not the way the NBA draft works. It's pretty naive to assume anything with the lottery.

[TheAlbatross]

If they finish with the worst record, they will still only have a 25% chance of getting the 1st overall pick

[Realbigfish4]

Im not gonna go back and look, but pretty sure the team with the worst record has been in the top 3 for quit a long time. It's pretty much a lock Orlando finish with the worst record this year.

[warden]

 

Originally Posted by Realbigfish4

It obv wont be clear how this will end for Orlando until the draft. I'm guessing they do ok, with a guaranteed top 3 (probably the 1st) pick and 3 picks in the 15-25 range. Shabazz, and 3 more 1st rounders to go along with Harkless, Nicholson, O'Quinn, the 3 other 21-23 year olds, and the ability to offer a max deal sounds pretty nice to me.

probably not the first pick and definitely not "guaranteed top 3." it is literally impossible to guarantee a top 3 pick. the worst team in the league doesn't have a "guaranteed top 3" pick.

assuming orlando is the worst team in the league, which would be a lot easier if you didn't trade for al harrington and aaron afflalo, both guys who are talented and experienced enough to win you some games (enough to be annoying, but no where near enough to make the playoffs).

[warden]

 

Originally Posted by Realbigfish4

Im not gonna go back and look, but pretty sure the team with the worst record has been in the top 3 for quit a long time. It's pretty much a lock Orlando finish with the worst record this year.

without looking, i'm pretty sure the kings were the worst team the year they got tyreke evans

[warden]

i shouldn't say pretty sure. i *think* that. and they picked fourth.

[Realbigfish4]

 

Originally Posted by warden

without looking, i'm pretty sure the kings were the worst team the year they got tyreke evans

without looking they werent... pretty sure the T-Wolves or Miami won like 13 games that year...

[warden]

looked and i'm right.

worst team in the league and their draft position by year:

2012: charlotte, 2
2011: minnesota, 2
2010: new jersey, 3
2009: sacramento, 4
2008: miami, 2
2007: memphis, 4
2006: portland, 4
2005: atlanta, 2
2004: orlando, 1
2003: cleveland, 1

[Realbigfish4]

yeah.... still... If I was a betting man I'd put the money on Orlando having a top 3 pick