[Hughes4]

Chandler had muchh better stats. You cant be better than a player if WS/48 is .22 vs .178

Gasol and Garnett are close. You can argue that he's better. But Garnett is 36 and there's not a chance he produces what he did in 2012

[AMARTIN1181 Is not a girl]

2012 playoffs: 36 MPG 19.2 ppg 10.3 rpg 1.1 steals 1.4 blocks 1.5 assists 50 percent fg 81 percent ft shooting in 20 games... they played 3 series sir.

[AMARTIN1181 Is not a girl]

 

Originally Posted by Hughes4

Chandler had muchh better stats. You cant be better than a player if WS/48 is .22 vs .178

Gasol and Garnett are close. You can argue that he's better. But Garnett is 36 and there's not a chance he produces what he did in 2012

meh i'll give u chandler, sucks he's stuck on the fucking knicks tho for his prime years. And while I know Chandler won DPOY and Howard is the best defender in basketball, KG's defense continues to be excellent even as he gets older. He can lock up any big man in the game, howard, bynum, whoever. The problem is he can't guard 3 people at the same time unfortunately. Edited By: AMARTIN1181 Aug 18th, 2012 at 07:57 AM

[warden]

 

Originally Posted by Bullets43

Harden next...

They can't afford him

[AMARTIN1181 Is not a girl]

They should trade him anyways

[Hughes4]

In 2012, Kevin Garnett had an outstanding postseason against the Atlanta Hawks and the Philadelphia 76ers.

[AMARTIN1181 Is not a girl]

yeah and playing against the fucking Heat is so easy. Go fuck yourself. Have fun with Joe Johnson and Brooke the crook Lopez

[Hughes4]

have fun with 3rd in the Atlantic Division lololol

[AMARTIN1181 Is not a girl]

even if that happened (which it won't) we'd still wax that ass in the playoffs

[Hughes4]

Glad to see the Northeast as the class of the association.

All I wana do is buy a playstation and nba2k13 and play play play

[Zeppelin world traveler]

 

Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181

Howard is his own tier. Lol bynum...

Not going to be surprising at all when within the next 2 seasons, maybe by the all star break people start asking if Bynum is the best center in the league

People are confused. The biggest improvement for the Lakers is Nash. Howard may be the better fit with his skill set being the 4th best offensive player, reality is he isn't that much better of a player individually. Bynum has been hidden from the league, but he isn't anymore. He is going to be more dominant than Howard was in Orlando. Plus, since he is going to touch the ball regularly, his defense isn't going to be that far behind. He is a beast defensively, til he loses interest. Bynum use to battle battle battle for position then never touch the ball (wonder why?) and next thing you know he isn't playing defense. Time will tell how much Nash controls the ball and fixes that situation with the new center. People are oblivious to how good Bynum is, on both ends of the floor
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Bynum to Howard is such an overrated upgrade except Howard is such a bitch he may enjoy being the 4th option and Bynum wants to be a #1. Nash is scary, fuck Canada! Edited By: Zeppelin Aug 18th, 2012 at 11:05 AM

[Hughes4]

Even if they are close to equal which is just LOL
Howard can play ten minutes more per game, on average, than Bynum's fat ass

[warden]

Howard is a giant upgrade defensively.

[Zeppelin world traveler]

Howard played a career high in minutes last year, 3 minutes more than Bynum did. Big fucking whoop. They are both going to die young.

Howard is better than Bynum but you all don't recognize how constrained Bynum was in LA and how much he is about to blow up. That and when Howard came into the league I expected Howard to be sooooooo much better at this point than he is. The gap aint as big as people think

Any good American hopes Nash dies in a plane crash

[warden]

Bynum might be very good, but Howard will rip down 12+ boards a game and protect the rim like no one else in the league can

[Hughes4]

 

Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16

The gap aint as big as people think

Yes it is.

[Randers]

Howard plays at 15 feet, Bynum plays at 11.5. That's what makes howard infinitely better.

If the Back thing makes him play at 12 feet, then you might be correct, zep.

[cchan]

why is david lee in some people's list?

he's not even a center. if he's listed, why are pau, dirk, kevin love not listed

[AMARTIN1181 Is not a girl]

short answer is because real big fish is a fucking idiot

[kellykip The Chosen One]

Lopez is not a great rebounder - that is a fact. In fairness tho, his stats are slightly skewed downward due to Humphries being a rebounding beast on the court with him who definitely takes a couple a game from Lopez that he'd otherwise have playing with an average rebounding PF.

Not too many of the centers above Lopez play with a forward that is such a monster on the boards.

[Realbigfish4]

 

Originally Posted by cchan

why is david lee in some people's list?

he's not even a center. if he's listed, why are pau, dirk, kevin love not listed

B/c he put up great numbers last year and he plays much more like a big man than Pau and Dirk... Love would obv be on the list if I thought for more time than while I was tpying. My more thought out list goes like this, pretty close to in order to where I would take them:

Howard
Bynum
P. Gasol
Jefferson
M. Gasol
Love
Chandler
Horford
Hibbert
Noah
Griffin
Cousins
Monroe
Aldridge
Stoudemire
Bargnani
Bosh
Gortat
McGee
Jordan
Nene
Lee
Dirk
KG
Duncan
Pekovic
Lopez

Im sure Brand at 33, Boozer at 30, and Randolph at 31 would be in there somewhere but Im not sure where . Dirk, Duncan, and KG fall really far only due to age. Bogut, and Varejao are really close to making the list as well. Im probably forgetting some guys... I guess I could use some google searchers, but this list will due for now.

[KillerFost]

 

Originally Posted by Realbigfish4

B/c he put up great numbers last year and he plays much more like a big man than Pau and Dirk... Love would obv be on the list if I thought for more time than while I was tpying. My more thought out list goes like this, pretty close to in order to where I would take them:

Howard
Bynum
P. Gasol
Jefferson
M. Gasol
Love
Chandler
Horford
Hibbert
Noah
Griffin
Cousins
Monroe
Aldridge
Stoudemire
Bargnani
Bosh
Gortat
McGee
Jordan
Nene
Lee
Dirk
KG
Duncan
Pekovic
Lopez

Im sure Brand at 33, Boozer at 30, and Randolph at 31 would be in there somewhere but Im not sure where . Dirk, Duncan, and KG fall really far only due to age. Bogut, and Varejao are really close to making the list as well. Im probably forgetting some guys... I guess I could use some google searchers, but this list will due for now.

i hope thats not blake griffin that high....aldridge is too low also

[MadProfesor]

 

Originally Posted by wantagolf

Bynum is off to Germany to get the stem cell blood spin infusion. Dude is gonna be killing it next year.

He will have a huge year being the focal point in Philly.

[Realbigfish4]

 

Originally Posted by KillerFost

i hope thats not blake griffin that high....aldridge is too low also

Griffin is a freak of nature and is only 23... Agreed Aldridge is too low, move him up about 5 spots.

[TheAlbatross]

Wtf

[bradonlywins]

Kobe is pretty brutal

[KillerFost]

griffin has no skill set hes only good for sportscenter top 10 plays....hell never be able to lead the clippers anywhere....he cant shoot at all and hes free throws are horrendous barely rebounds doesnt play good defense has no low post game....hes entertaining but not a good player

[Zeppelin world traveler]

barely rebounds, just 11.5 per game in his 2 years in the league

Lot of hate for a 23 year old who finished 10th in scoring, 7th in fg%, 6th in rebounding and 9th in PER last season. Edited By: Zeppelin Aug 19th, 2012 at 08:23 AM

[Hughes4]

26th best player in the NBA

[Goldenad]

 

Originally Posted by kellykip

Lopez is not a great rebounder - that is a fact. In fairness tho, his stats are slightly skewed downward due to Humphries being a rebounding beast on the court with him who definitely takes a couple a game from Lopez that he'd otherwise have playing with an average rebounding PF.

Not too many of the centers above Lopez play with a forward that is such a monster on the boards.

agreed but it goes the other way as well. lopez has averaged 17.4ppg in his career but most of that was when he was the first option. in 2010-2011 when he averaged 20.4, this was the roster...