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  1. FullTiltGrinder FullTiltGrinder is offline

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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 5:13am)

    Am I the only one who hates this rule? I know that it probably will never change, and that the arguement for coaches leaving and getting to coach right away is bogus, but if a kid is uncomfortable at a school he shouldnt have to sacrifice a year of his life for the NCAA.
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 5:15am) in reply to FullTiltGrinder

    Contracted to play for a school (and get everything paid for). Break that contract, penalty.

    One year is fair IMO
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 5:18am) in reply to budo09

    But its the only division that has this rule...and not to beat the coach thing to death, but they sign the same type of contract (and get paid large sums of dough), and can jet whenever they feel like it.
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 5:18am) in reply to FullTiltGrinder

    It's fair, it sucks but it makes the recruit have to find a good fit.
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 5:20am) in reply to BigEarn7

     
    Originally Posted by BigEarn7 View Post

    It's fair, it sucks but it makes the recruit have to find a good fit.

    How can an 18 year old kid from nowhereville, Pennsylvania know whether or not Austin, Texas or Tallahassee, Florida are going to be a "good fit?"
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 5:21am) in reply to FullTiltGrinder

     
    Originally Posted by FullTiltGrinder View Post

    But its the only division that has this rule...and not to beat the coach thing to death, but they sign the same type of contract (and get paid large sums of dough), and can jet whenever they feel like it.

    coaches =/= players

    Can't compare them
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 5:24am) in reply to FullTiltGrinder

     
    Originally Posted by FullTiltGrinder View Post

    How can an 18 year old kid from nowhereville, Pennsylvania know whether or not Austin, Texas or Tallahassee, Florida are going to be a "good fit?"


    research
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 5:31am) in reply to FullTiltGrinder

     
    Originally Posted by FullTiltGrinder View Post

    How can an 18 year old kid from nowhereville, Pennsylvania know whether or not Austin, Texas or Tallahassee, Florida are going to be a "good fit?"

    Go visit each place, talk to other guys on the current team who go there, other people who have visited, etc etc. If they are a d1 athlete being recruited they for sure have a large network of other players who would be able to assist them in decision making. Pretty much any place you go is going to obviously do as much as they can to make things comfortable for you as well.
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 5:36am) in reply to FullTiltGrinder

     
    Originally Posted by FullTiltGrinder View Post

    But its the only division that has this rule...and not to beat the coach thing to death, but they sign the same type of contract (and get paid large sums of dough), and can jet whenever they feel like it.

    Coaches can bolt, but they usually have to pay a buy out in their contract which can cost them or the school they are going to a decent chunk of money.
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 5:43am) in reply to slinger 4

    the rule also keeps the massive amount of kids at lower levels fro transferring up on the idea they might make it. most of those kids will just put themselves in debt and regret the choice. it would also hurt the lower divisions significantly.
    Edited By: MacEwen Feb 8th, 2011 at 05:46 AM
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 5:44am) in reply to MacEwen

    just wanna point out here how maryland's d coordinator leaves for uconn (............) 3 days after signing day, which is ridiculously shady. pretty embarrassing.

    [SIZE=2]Here’s a quote from Dorleant (to Matt Bracken of the Sun) which I think sums it all up:
    “He was the biggest reason I was going to go and play there,” Dorleant said. “If he made the decision a week before Signing Day, I definitely wouldn’t be going to Maryland. And I mean, there’s nothing I can really do now"    [/SIZE]

    team interviewing randy shannon (juan time ?)
    Edited By: heavyj80 Feb 8th, 2011 at 05:45 AM
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 5:52am) in reply to heavyj80

    well in those cases the fresh can transfer and use his redshirt while sitting out. he would just have to pay for the first year.
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 6:01am) in reply to FullTiltGrinder

    Whats the full rule?
    If you sign and a coach leaves you are stuck right?
    If you are a redshirt fresh or sophomore and your coach leaves you cant xfer no penalties right?

    Whats the problem here?

    You sign with the school not coach. But if you sign stay in that ambiance for a year then he leaves...you should be able to leave. Perfect rule IMO. Unless Im missing something which I may.
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 6:02am) in reply to budo09

     
    Originally Posted by budo09 View Post

    Contracted to play for a school (and get everything paid for). Break that contract, penalty.

    One year is fair IMO

    Couldn't of said it better myself, most people forget how much these athletes really do receive in return for playing a sport that they would be playing no matter whether they were at said college or not. They have hardship waivers for a reason, and for the most part people that deserve one usually get one.
    Edited By: $ayChee$e Feb 8th, 2011 at 06:04 AM
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 6:04am) in reply to $ayChee$e

    If this was started for LD fag then it has meaning. A junior cannot xfer no matter what(exception bayloir almost dealth penalty) and not it out.
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 6:07am) in reply to ZeeDustin

    NCAA is a monopoly. Good thing we have the government around to prevent monopolies.
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 6:07am) in reply to Dyzalot

    Kids would transfer every year to play with their friends
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 6:07am) in reply to ZeeDustin

     
    Originally Posted by budo09 View Post

    Contracted to play for a school (and get everything paid for). Break that contract, penalty.

    One year is fair IMO

     
    Originally Posted by $ayChee$e View Post

    Couldn't of said it better myself, most people forget how much these athletes really do receive in return for playing a sport that they would be playing no matter whether they were at said college or not. They have hardship waivers for a reason, and for the most part people that deserve one usually get one.

    Entering into contracts to provide a service is unacceptable to the NCCA right? I was under the impression a player could not sign away his likeness, rights, or services and retain amateur status(eligibility). The way you put it, then it's safe to say the NCAA is hypocritical and should go fuck itself?
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 6:10am) in reply to Dyzalot

     
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    NCAA is a monopoly. Good thing we have the government around to prevent monopolies.

    This guy is worse than UD
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 6:20am) in reply to budo09

    a junior can transfer he just has to sit out a year.
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 6:24am) in reply to MacEwen

    isnt there a rule that if the school u are leaving releases you, than u can play right away?

    there should prob be a panel that looks at cases and determines the intent and reason for decision and then judges how long they have to sit out for, from either 0 time up to 1 year.
     
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 6:26am) in reply to AmSlim22

    no am you still have to sit out a year, but if the school doesn't release you you can't play on scholly for another school.
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 6:33am) in reply to MacEwen

    hmm, thought i have heard of soccer players who were able to play right away... was while ago tho, so could be wrong.
     
  24. MacEwen MacEwen is offline

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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 6:37am) in reply to AmSlim22

    i don't know about that, i'm talking about football.
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 6:45am) in reply to MacEwen

    oh, didnt realize it was diff, guess there are diff ncaa div 1 rules for diff sports.
     
  26. MacEwen MacEwen is offline

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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 6:47am) in reply to AmSlim22

    i don't know if there are, but that is the rule for football.
    Edited By: MacEwen Feb 8th, 2011 at 06:51 AM
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 1:23pm) in reply to budo09

     
    Originally Posted by budo09 View Post

    Contracted to play for a school (and get everything paid for). Break that contract, penalty.

    One year is fair IMO

    Contracted? Yes, until the school decides they want to fuck you over. Funny how the school never has any penalties when they break the contract.

    http://oversigning.com/testing/
    Edited By: Tread Feb 8th, 2011 at 01:23 PM
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 2:13pm) in reply to Tread



    whole bunch of mis-information in this thread......

    each NCAA sport is different in the context of how this rule effects students.
    and we wonder why there is no D1 football championship.

    one should read Ron polks rant before making un-informed judgements!
    http://www.clarionledger.com/assets/pdf/D085828917.PDF
    Edited By: ripomatic Feb 8th, 2011 at 02:16 PM
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 2:25pm) in reply to ripomatic

    i have no pity for kids that commit to a school solely because one coach in particular is there and then bounces.

    Your collegiate choice should be setting you up for the rest of your life, hardly any of these kids are gonna go pro with football, pretty foolish IMO
     
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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 2:28pm) in reply to mrniphty

    Just commit to tOSU, they'll never want to leave.
     
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