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Pachter predicts Netflix's streaming content licensing costs will rise from $180 million in 2010 to a whopping $1.98 billion in 2012.
When streaming video was new, Netflix was able to secure contracts with the likes of Warner Bros. Studios and MTV to license big TV and film catalogues for about $5 million to $10 million per year. This time around, Pachter says, those costs could increase more than tenfold.
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I know you're being sarcastic, but its got nothing to do with whether or not they are struggling. All it comes down to is getting the maximum price that the market will tolerate. When a company is new, especially pioneering a new niche in an existing market, they will often sell their goods at or even below cost, to make a name for themselves and to earn market share.
Originally Posted by thereraise
sooooo gay, guess they are struggling in these tough times and dont have a stock price of $291 a share
Now that they have 10's of millions of subscribers and have essentially put retail stores like Hollywood video and Blockbuster out of business, they can start to test the limits of what the market will actually pay for their product. Basically its a combination of the two quoted posts below. Cutthroat pricing to steal market share from or eliminate competition, plus attempting to keep margins cushy as costs increase massively from their suppliers.
This...Originally Posted by Milo
Standard predatory pricing model . . . keep it low until your competition goes under, then jack it up to recoup your losses once you're the dominant player in the market.
... and this. Its no different that the reason why I pay $120+ a month for basic cable and internet. Its not because thats what its worth, and its certainly not because thats what it costs. Its because thats what the local market will tolerate, considering the industry is basically run as regional monopolies.Originally Posted by Justman
Pachter predicts Netflix's streaming content licensing costs will rise from $180 million in 2010 to a whopping $1.98 billion in 2012.
When streaming video was new, Netflix was able to secure contracts with the likes of Warner Bros. Studios and MTV to license big TV and film catalogues for about $5 million to $10 million per year. This time around, Pachter says, those costs could increase more than tenfold. -
Originally Posted by Milo
Standard predatory pricing model . . . keep it low until your competition goes under, then jack it up to recoup your losses once you're the dominant player in the market.
lol - you couldn't be more wrong.
they are raising their prices b/c their licenses are about to expire and be auctioned between them, google, amzn, and hulu. i think their expenses are projected to increse 10x.
i dont think that netflix will survive. google has too much captial.
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I don't watch a ton of movies, but when I decide to, I like the convenience of just going to get the exact movie I want. I don't think Netflix has a great selection of movies you can watch instantly. For example, I out-of-the-blue decided a couple months ago that I wanted to watch Slumdog Millionaire again. It wasn't on the Netflix instant watch list. My local Blockbuster closed awhile back. So, we ended up just buying a copy from Target or Best Buy or somewhere. I don't understand why actual video stores have gone out of business. Who wants to wait on a movie they want to watch for days or weeks? Bleh. I don't get it. There's something to be said for being able to just walk in and get the movie you want. It's not that hard to return a movie, lol.
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Because people who think like you are a dying breed. There aren't enough people who feel the way you do to keep companies like Blockbuster afloat.
Personally, I'm with you though. Netflix is really only good for indy/foreign films and documentaries. Their availability of maintream movies for instant streaming is pretty weak. Red box doesn't many of the hot new releases until 3 weeks after they come out, and netflix doesn't offer them for instant streaming. So basically if I want to watch a movie that was just released, my options suck. -
Meh. Things just keep sucking worse and worse the older I get, lol. Maybe someone will invent a time machine and I can just time travel back to 1980 one day :) People are so freakin' lazy anymore. "I can't get off my couch for five minutes to go to Blockbuster and drop a DVD in the drop box. That might require some movement or the exertion of some energy. Oh noes!!!" :P
Actually, it seems very odd that people like me don't exist anymore when it comes to this issue. W're such a society of instant gratification, you'd think people would really want to be able to watch a movie they want to see instantly without having to wait for it to come in the mail. Things that make you go hmmmmm... -
Man Netflix is pissing me off. Literally the last 20+ movies I've wanted to watch have not been on instant, I waited forever for my last DVD of The Wire and now they are raising the prices? I think I may pass, I still have a Blockbuster in business close enough to me.
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Meh, too much crying.
$8/month to watch unlimited streaming movies on your computer. $8/month to get them delivered to your house if you want it.
BFD. It's hard to get much cheaper than that given the momentum of the market towards more at-home streaming delivery, imo. Their a la carte pricing structure makes more sense. -
Elitist, so out of touch with the common man.
Originally Posted by Rocket Surgeon
Meh, too much crying.
$8/month to watch unlimited streaming movies on your computer. $8/month to get them delivered to your house if you want it.
BFD. It's hard to get much cheaper than that given the momentum of the market towards more at-home streaming delivery, imo. Their a la carte pricing structure makes more sense. -
maybe it's just a difference in tastes. Netflix instant undeniably has a substantially larger menu than any video store. I've seen a number of really good movies that I never would have rented. I'm generally not all that interested in new releases so the instant vs. mail distinction isn't an issue for me too often. Removing the drive the video store isn't the advantage of Netflix for me. It's the larger selection and that there's so much more information about movies and they're divided into much narrower genres. The selection process is just so much easier.
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Fuck Netflix. I just cancelled my subscription. I had the streaming plus 1 dvd. My kids wanted to watch a movie one night so we ran to redbox which was 15 miles away. Got Due Date for me and Nanny McPhee Returns for them. I own both of those movies now for only $75 lol. I'm the most irresponsible person when it comes to returning movies. I'm just gonna watch TV from now on and use Directv cinema on demand.
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I think people got tired of video stores raping the shit out of them. I remember in the hayday, a video-rental was $4.99 or higher, and that was for I think 2 days. There was all sorts of bullshit charges, too. One day late, $2 or $3, then more for each day. Plus didn't Blockbuster not let you rent out more than 1 movie at once? I don't remember.
Then they finally got smart and did away with late fees.... except it was just- you own the movie and pay a 150% premium on it. So if you forget to return the movie, no worry. You just owe blockbuster $21.99 and now it's yours.
I always figured Netflix would have gotten bought out years ago once they started taking off. I guess now they just are trying to squeeze the juice for all its worth. -
Originally Posted by midmoguy
Fuck Netflix. I just cancelled my subscription. I had the streaming plus 1 dvd. My kids wanted to watch a movie one night so we ran to redbox which was 15 miles away. Got Due Date for me and Nanny McPhee Returns for them. I own both of those movies now for only $75 lol. I'm the most irresponsible person when it comes to returning movies. I'm just gonna watch TV from now on and use Directv cinema on demand.
I just don't get it. I never once had a late fee and I rented a lot of movies. Wtf is wrong with you people. You work hard for your money, don't you value it at all?
I don't get why direct tv and comcast don't just pwn the fuck out of Netflix. They could cut out all the postage/actual discs out of the equation and return thatinstant gratification. They just need a lot more movies available and bring down the prices a little bit/offer monthly packages. -
buy an HDMI cord and learn how to use the internet imo
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Not a big deal for me; in fact, I'll save money with it. I have the streaming + 1 DVD subscription right now, but will be switching to just the streaming before September when the price changes come in. I only use the streaming anyway...any DVD I get just sits on my kitchen table until I get bored with it and turn it in, usually never watching the DVD in the first place.
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if redbox had mail service would u pay $7.99 a month for it?
Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde
Fucking redbox. I dont have a problem watching it the day I rent from them...I have a problem returning the damn thing. I sit it on the counter and say "got to go to redbox"...then later on that night I go "Its just a dollar, I'll go tomorrow. Next thing u know I owe 8 bucks for a movie that wasnt worth 3. Redbox needs a mail service....it costs me more in gas to drive the 10 miles to return the movie than its worth
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If this deal was available in 1985, people would have been tripping over each other for the opportunity for unlimited rentals for $16/mo.
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this is terrible. they just raised prices back in november. how many times will they raise prices before their customers begin a major exodus?
this is terrible. they just raised prices back in november. how many times will they raise prices before their customers begin a major exodus? -
several more times? it's still much cheaper and a better service than the alternatives.
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Yeah, people seem to be not thinking about, or plain ignoring, this fact; simply because they gave you an incredible deal at $10 for both, doesn't mean that $16 is a rip-off...it's just more than you originally paid, it's called supply and demand.
Originally Posted by keylight
several more times? it's still much cheaper and a better service than the alternatives.
Also, new news re: Netflix today; no more new NBC shows streaming, now they must be one season old to be available instantly (similar to new Starz stuff being available after 90 days).
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product quality diminishing...income likely to decrease (at best - remain constant)...costs increasing 10x over 2 year span.
yet the stock price is increasing and some analysts have it as a buy.
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Matt has this right. You guys need to get out more seriously. Here in fucking Kansas of all places there is a red box every way I go. Get out more and stop being so lazy
Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde
Fucking redbox. I dont have a problem watching it the day I rent from them...I have a problem returning the damn thing. I sit it on the counter and say "got to go to redbox"...then later on that night I go "Its just a dollar, I'll go tomorrow. Next thing u know I owe 8 bucks for a movie that wasnt worth 3. Redbox needs a mail service....it costs me more in gas to drive the 10 miles to return the movie than its worth
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is anyone else having problems with netflix right now?
it will not connect through my Wii
their website is bogged down
and their customer service line is constantly busy
figured i might not be the only one, but wanted to make sure it wasnt my equipment










