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Nevada Gaming Question.. Do i have a case?

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  1. paulpete paulpete is offline

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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 6:39am)

    Okay so today I wanted to put some money on the Bears-Vikings game. So I told my buddy, Ian, to go put $50 on da bears. He comes back a few minutes later and says I think you gave me $60, and handed me the $50 sports bet from Paris that had Bears -2.5 which was $50 to win $45.95 or something like that, plus he handed me $10 back.
    So the bears obviously destroy the vikings and one of my friends goes to cash the ticket in for me and says because I bet $40 they took $10 back. So apparently what had happened was my buddy Ian went up to the counter and said "I'd like to bet $50 on the bears" and then put $40 on the counter, the clerk accepted the bet and counted the money and printed the ticket. I don't see how they don't honor the $50 bet. If they go as far as to accept a bet, and print out a ticket, accept my cash and let me leave then it should be the ticket writer's fault for not doing his job. I don't understand how you can accept a bet and then don't honor the bet. Any help?
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 6:46am) in reply to paulpete

    u arent 21 are u?
     
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 6:46am) in reply to paulpete

    read this like 3 times and still don't get it
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 6:46am) in reply to LVpokerdealer

    Nevada gaming question...................... infinite
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 6:49am) in reply to Mikey Babes

    I think the friend is lying, because once the ticket's printed, that's the bet.
     
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 6:50am) in reply to resilient

    also, I still don't get it....but once you leave the window it's on you. I know your friend bet for you, but always double check the ticket before you walk off.
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 6:51am) in reply to LVpokerdealer

     
    Originally Posted by LVpokerdealer View Post

    read this like 3 times and still don't get it

    I think he's trying to say that they gave him a bet ticket for $50 and realized that they only received $40 in cash after the person left with the $50 ticket, so they changed the bet in the system to $40. Obv no chance that actually happened, so sounds like the friend is lying?
     
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 6:53am) in reply to resilient

     
    Originally Posted by resilient View Post

    I think he's trying to say that they gave him a bet ticket for $50 and realized that they only received $40 in cash after the person left with the $50 ticket, so they changed the bet in the system to $40. Obv no chance that actually happened, so sounds like the friend is lying?

    Ya, not a chance in hell that happened. Friend is lying.
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 6:54am) in reply to LVpokerdealer

    i guess going by ur profile pic u are 21.

    how did so many people mess up counting in one OP?
     
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 6:54am) in reply to AmSlim22

    Your friend stole $10 from you?

    I mean it's $10...
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 6:55am) in reply to resilient

    weird for the friend to lie about anything since he didn't gain anything. unless he was saying they didnt pay out the ticket at all and voided it, then he could be keeping the $. seems like a strange thing to lie about tho.
     
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 6:55am) in reply to resilient

    Your friend is stealing from you.

    The ticket writer can't retroactively change your bet. If there is a problem with the ticket, either on your part or their part, they must recollect the ticket to cancel it and re-issue a new one. Get a new friend.
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 6:56am) in reply to Niceguy

    no i clearly am 21. and they even printed out the ticket after I went back to complain..so I asked for a copy of the ticket and they gave me a printed copy of it.
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 6:56am) in reply to Niceguy

     
    Originally Posted by Niceguy View Post

    Your friend is stealing from you.

    The ticket writer can't retroactively change your bet. If there is a problem with the ticket, either on your part or their part, they must recollect the ticket to cancel it and re-issue a new one. Get a new friend.

    yah...i don't even get what he's trying to imply from the book.

    if the ticket says $50 to win $45.75, they're going to pay you what it says...i don't think there's a corner on the ticket that says "even tho the ticket says $50, bettor only paid us $40, so don't pay him in full"
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 6:56am) in reply to AmSlim22

    the ticket clearly states a $50 sports bet was made
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 6:57am) in reply to paulpete

     
    Originally Posted by paulpete View Post

    the ticket clearly states a $50 sports bet was made

    well then your friend pulled an intricate scheme on you...you really did give him $60, and he gave you the extra $10 back so that he could strategically go back and steal $10 worth of profit post-bet.

    BRILLIANT
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 6:58am) in reply to paulpete

     
    Originally Posted by paulpete View Post

    the ticket clearly states a $50 sports bet was made

    Exactly. Your friend took some for himself after he cashed it in for you.
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 7:01am) in reply to Niceguy

    Well,maybe they can do it now that I think of it. Same thing as say you cash out in a poker room for $1100 and they mistakenly give you $1200....they can ask for the money back next time you come, and if you don't give it back they can ban you from the property.
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 7:01am) in reply to AmSlim22

    no when I went back to the sportsbook to complain they said this is what happened we paid you only for a $40 bet, because that was what your boy gave us. They understood that the ticket said $50 but they said if you only bet $40 they only pay $40
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 7:03am) in reply to paulpete

    Welp, make the bet yourself next time. It's not the book's fault your boy only pulled out 40.
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 7:05am) in reply to Niceguy

    i dont think ur friend was lying, cashier prob gave change by accident or something and then realized after the fact.

    i can't imagine it is worth going to the NGC over. maybe talked to the boss and he will give u a buffett voucher.
     
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 7:05am) in reply to paulpete

     
    Originally Posted by paulpete View Post

    no when I went back to the sportsbook to complain they said this is what happened we paid you only for a $40 bet, because that was what your boy gave us. They understood that the ticket said $50 but they said if you only bet $40 they only pay $40

    That actually sounds right now that I think about it more. Although mistakes are made, they won't pay you on a $1000 ticket when you actually bet $100. Mistakes do happen, and they can correct them. Like I said before, people have been paid before wrongly in our poker room and next time they come in they are notified of it, and asked to return the money.
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 7:07am) in reply to LVpokerdealer

     
    Originally Posted by LVpokerdealer View Post

    That actually sounds right now that I think about it more. Although mistakes are made, they won't pay you on a $1000 ticket when you actually bet $100. Mistakes do happen, and they can correct them. Like I said before, people have been paid before wrongly in our poker room and next time they come in they are notified of it, and asked to return the money.

    how do they realize they were shorted? no way they count all the money coming in during time of business, right?

    am i just missing something entirely here?
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 7:10am) in reply to Niceguy

    How is it not their fault? if a guy prints out a $1000 ticket and there is only $100 in front of him, he should be fired and owe the sportsbook $900.
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 7:13am) in reply to paulpete

     
    Originally Posted by paulpete View Post

    How is it not their fault? if a guy prints out a $1000 ticket and there is only $100 in front of him, he should be fired and owe the sportsbook $900.

    orrr void out the $1K ticket and reprint a new one for the right amount...i guess i just don't understand how they book would realize they were shorted--unless it was right as the guy handed him the money and he was just too lazy to void the one and reprint one.
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 7:13am) in reply to JRoth15

     
    Originally Posted by JRoth15 View Post

    how do they realize they were shorted? no way they count all the money coming in during time of business, right?


    level?
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 7:15am) in reply to LVpokerdealer

    If you state your intentions , "I would like to bet $50"
    you give them money
    they acknowledge that the money you gave them is $50
    they hand you a ticket stating you bet $50.. then how is it not a $50 bet?
    am i missing something?
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 7:16am) in reply to paulpete

     
    Originally Posted by paulpete View Post

    How is it not their fault? if a guy prints out a $1000 ticket and there is only $100 in front of him, he should be fired and owe the sportsbook $900.

    is that really what you think should happen?
     
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 7:19am) in reply to paulpete

     
    Originally Posted by paulpete View Post

    How is it not their fault? if a guy prints out a $1000 ticket and there is only $100 in front of him, he should be fired and owe the sportsbook $900.

    Just lol @ this...cmon dude. People make mistakes in every line of work. You don't get a free $900 gift because the guy maybe hit an extra 0 when typing it in.

     
    Originally Posted by paulpete View Post

    If you state your intentions , "I would like to bet $50"
    you give them money
    they acknowledge that the money you gave them is $50
    they hand you a ticket stating you bet $50.. then how is it not a $50 bet?
    am i missing something?

    Ya, you're missing $10. You only bet $40
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    Oct 17th, 2011 (10/17/2011 7:20am) in reply to AmSlim22

     
    Originally Posted by AmSlim22 View Post

    is that really what you think should happen?

    I would think as a ticket writer you would accept the cash, double check it, then print the ticket..how mean how long does it take to double check, one $20 and two $10 bills...about .5 seconds?
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