Originally Posted by Z-Fresh

Really? I thought last night's episode was the best one yet. I really like the conflict between the older guy trying to bring back the news and the board of directors trying to make profit.

Yeah I really hope they run with this dynamic

drunk sam waterston is my favorite part of the show

 

Originally Posted by pokerscrub1

I really enjoy the show. I have to say though, it feels like they just made the lead character a moderate conservative so that they could bash conservative ideas and have more credibility because it's coming from a "conservative"

I was going to post the same thing. Sorkin must have thought, "maybe if I make him a conservative the real conservatives will hate my show less."

 

Originally Posted by warden

drunk sam waterston is my favorite part of the show

After it became clear that his character is simply drunk all the time. I turned the corner on his performance. Hilarious.

 

Originally Posted by TheSilentBob

I was going to post the same thing. Sorkin must have thought, "maybe if I make him a conservative the real conservatives will hate my show less."

I sincerely doubt Aaron Sorkin gives the smallest fuck what conservatives think. The moderate Republican disgusted by the lunatics taking over his party was a constant theme in both The West Wing and Studio 60...The Newsroom is the same thing, only with the moderate Republican as the star instead of laboring in a supporting role.

So you don't think he's trying to lend his views more credibility? Don't worry, it's a rhetorical question. Ftr, I love the show but the ex-gf is losing me and I have a feeling her shtick is going to get old fast.

He's conservative all right, he just doesnt believe hurricanes are caused by gay marriage!


Ps. Sorkin didn't make the character conservative (but one of the good ones!) to appeal to conservatives ffs.

Oh mos def. guarentee he's lib in con's clothing. Like he wont like something about the dems but he'll be "rational and reasonable" on issues like free healthcare and evil wars and higher taxes.

Still havent seen it btw lol, just educated guesses

The show hasn't really gotten into what he thinks about politics (other than he dislikes the Tea party) but I suspect he's an Eisenhower/Roosevelt/Nixon sort of Republican.

Of course, by modern standards, this makes him a socialist.

i like the show and liked this last episode a lot.

i found the beginning interesting, especially the part about congress forgetting to say that there should be no advertising during the news programs in exchange for giving free use of airways.

i think mcavoy can def still be a conservative, just one who admits the tea party isnt the grassroots organization it claims to be or that it started as. i think there is a lot of merit to rational conservatism , its just that the extreme right of conservatives are taking over the party and the saner conservatives are having to act a little crazy to appease the base that is leaning farther to the right.

nobody wants higher taxes, but nobody wants an elected official who promises before stepping foot in office that they wont compromise or attempt to become more informed either.

i do see the show being seen as slightly preachy, but i think when u believe that there is a truth and fact and call out people who don't deal in fact or give answers (this could be applied to politiicians and many others from any political persuasion) then you may be seen as preaching.

(side note - about 3 years ago after rewatching sports nite, i thought it would be a great idea for a show to do that type of behind the scenes look at a cable new network, like a foxnews. i didnt give it too much thought and sorkin had prob had the idea already, but wish i had written a spec script, would have been fun. i think i am going to try to right an episode of this show for fun.)

i think part of the reason people arent believing will as a moderate conservative is that conservatism has gone so far right, to be a moderate conservative now seems like you are a liberal.

i mean i don't want higher taxes, i think the states/local govts should have more power and less should be placed in federal govt ideally. i think welfare should be radically changed and while i do think there should be a safety net, i think it should be a safety net that incentivizes people to be unproductive. i do also have some liberal views obv as well. but the mention of possible increasing taxes even 1% now makes someone a socialist, so what exactly would a moderate conservative look like these days?

The cool thing about the show is they get to be right because it's already happened. We get to revisit the huge news stories of the past two years and be reminded how bias and ratings play into reporting. I hope he bashes both sides but I doubt HBO would allow harsh left criticism.

 

Originally Posted by ginwilly

If the right has become so far extreme right how do you explain McCain and Romney winning popularity contests against candidates who really are extreme.

I mean, did you see the pretzels those guys had to tie themselves into to get the nomination?

 

Originally Posted by norcaljeff

nothing's funnier than libs pining for the good old days of nixon (and reagan)

If a Genie offered me a deal where all the Republicans had to be like Nixon from now on (ideologically obv, minus all the "fuck the law, I'm President, I does what I wants!" bits, hyperparanoia, etc) with the catch that I'd have to actually vote for them, I'd take that deal in a second.

The point is that "Mitt Romney, the moderate Republican governor of a blue state who passed sweeping health care reform" and "John McCain, the maverick aisle-straddler who reformed campaign finance and realizes torturing people is a bad idea" didn't win the nominations; "Mitt Romney, the rabidly anti-tax, anti-health care reform private equity firm manager who wants you to forget about everything he ever said or did before 4 years ago" and "John McCain, the hawk who votes against banning the CIA from waterboarding people" did.

Also, focusing this analysis solely on nominees for President is loltarded. Seen Congress (you know, the branch of government where the Republicans actually have power) lately?

 

Originally Posted by Lord Supremo

I suspect he's an Eisenhower/Roosevelt/Nixon/non-mythical Reagan sort of Republican.

Of course, by modern standards, this makes him a socialist.

FYP