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  1. marinersheep marinersheep is offline This is stupid.

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    Oct 16th, 2012 (10/16/2012 9:22pm) in reply to Lameass_

    I'm confused as to how saying "This team is the best because they're 6-0...shoulda/woulda/coulda WGAF" isn't the shortsighted viewpoint. Isn't judging a team by W/L in a six game sample size when teams are playing different schedules being shortsighted? Isn't not acknowledging that there's variance and shit that happens week-to-week that can swing a win or loss shortsighted?

    How are the people saying "just because Atlanta is 6-0 doesn't make them the best team" the shortsighted ones?

    You have to say "woulda/shoulda/coulda" because variance is a bitch. You can't just say, "they found a way to win, and that's all that matters!" because it's just a dumb narrative. If you flip a coin for $100 and call heads, and it's heads, you can't say "I found a way to win, and that's all that matters!".
     
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    Oct 16th, 2012 (10/16/2012 9:29pm) in reply to Pker4Dummies

    my and his individuals and his "commentary" and sweetness email are on there. someone do work
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    Oct 16th, 2012 (10/16/2012 9:31pm) in reply to quietwinner

     
    Originally Posted by quietwinner View Post

    atl by 6+. next question.


    i wonder what odds vegas would put on the pats losing any game by 6+ all season...

    EDIT: happened 8 times in reg season since 2007. twice in postseason.

    around 10% of games. and im kinda surprised it's that high.
    Edited By: Ozzie Oct 16th, 2012 at 09:40 PM
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    Oct 16th, 2012 (10/16/2012 9:36pm) in reply to Lameass_

    I can do the rankings but hate my personal commentary lol. If I post them up then everyone can post there own comments?
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    Oct 16th, 2012 (10/16/2012 9:39pm) in reply to AMARTIN1181

    AMARTIN are you able to get your rankings done in the next hour or so? I can post everything once you have finished.
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    Oct 16th, 2012 (10/16/2012 10:07pm) in reply to MeJahAndOmaha

     
    Originally Posted by MeJahAndOmaha View Post

    Oh ffs. I expected to hear the seahawks get talked up by their diehard homer fans, but not by people with any objectivity. They are half a team, and despite what their 4-2 record might say, a nasty defense won't be enough to keep winning games when your offense consists of blindly launching bombs down the field in the 4th quarter and stumbling into bad calls, bad penalties, and lol-bad secondaries. The refs gifted them a W against GB. Brady gifted them a win with bad game management. Seahawks could and should be 2-4 with losses to the Cards and Rams, a 4 point win over the Panthers, and their only decisive victory coming against a massively underachieving Cowboys team.

    Don't get me wrong, the seahawk's defense is the best in the league and deserves a ton of credit for holding Brady to 23, Rodgers to 12, Cam to 12, and Romo to 7, but you can't be a top 5 team In the NFL with no offense, regardless of how good your D is. I'd rank them somewhere between 8-12th because their D is just that good, but the team as a whole isn't as good as their 2012 results suggest. They'll be lucky if they do any better than 5-5 with their remaining schedule, and may not even make the playoffs despite an impressive and fortunate start to the season.

    The Seahawks are the Andy Frankenberger of the NFL, but it's a lot harder to bink a Super Bowl than it is to bink a silly poker tournament.


    Well then how about they SHOULDA be 5-1 because of two drops in the endzone in the final seconds vs Arizona so they basically GIFTWRAPPED that win for arizona. Seriously, you sound dumb. Just stop
     
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    Oct 16th, 2012 (10/16/2012 10:13pm) in reply to SaulGood

    Where is the Falcons weakness this season?

    Obv they haven't played perfect all season, but they just played a mediocre team coming off their bye week where their "superstar" QB played the worst game I've ever seen him play other than in the playoffs.

    The Falcons are an impressive team, of course the 6-0 is a product of their variance but there is a skill involved with keeping games close in the NFL, and winning them.
  8. Ozzie Ozzie is offline

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    Oct 16th, 2012 (10/16/2012 10:20pm) in reply to jtown1010

     
    Originally Posted by jtown1010 View Post

    Where is the Falcons weakness this season?

    rb and def.

    not lolbills defense and lolcolts rb issues, but those are the weaknesses. obv qb/wr/te theyre stacked.
  9. AMARTIN1181 AMARTIN1181 is offline Is not a girl

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    Oct 16th, 2012 (10/16/2012 10:40pm) in reply to MeJahAndOmaha

     
    Originally Posted by MeJahAndOmaha View Post

    Oh ffs. I expected to hear the seahawks get talked up by their diehard homer fans, but not by people with any objectivity. They are half a team, and despite what their 4-2 record might say, a nasty defense won't be enough to keep winning games when your offense consists of blindly launching bombs down the field in the 4th quarter and stumbling into bad calls, bad penalties, and lol-bad secondaries. The refs gifted them a W against GB. Brady gifted them a win with bad game management. Seahawks could and should be 2-4 with losses to the Cards and Rams, a 4 point win over the Panthers, and their only decisive victory coming against a massively underachieving Cowboys team.

    Don't get me wrong, the seahawk's defense is the best in the league and deserves a ton of credit for holding Brady to 23, Rodgers to 12, Cam to 12, and Romo to 7, but you can't be a top 5 team In the NFL with no offense, regardless of how good your D is. I'd rank them somewhere between 8-12th because their D is just that good, but the team as a whole isn't as good as their 2012 results suggest. They'll be lucky if they do any better than 5-5 with their remaining schedule, and may not even make the playoffs despite an impressive and fortunate start to the season.

    The Seahawks are the Andy Frankenberger of the NFL, but it's a lot harder to bink a Super Bowl than it is to bink a silly poker tournament.

    hey cockboy all i said was id move them up my ranking, u just mad cuz brady is on the decline, i understand.
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  10. wantagolf wantagolf is online now Moderator

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    Oct 17th, 2012 (10/17/2012 1:11am) in reply to AMARTIN1181

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-halftime-gig/

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    For a change.

    Beyoncé will headline the Pepsi Super Bowl Halftime Show. The league announced the move today.
     
  11. Pker4Dummies Pker4Dummies is online now

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    Oct 17th, 2012 (10/17/2012 1:17am) in reply to wantagolf

    FUCK YES
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    Oct 17th, 2012 (10/17/2012 1:22am) in reply to Pker4Dummies

    Yeah I'm talkin b
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    Oct 17th, 2012 (10/17/2012 1:27am) in reply to AMARTIN1181

    any time you have EDPxxxx on your side you know you're doing something wrong. Hang it up, QW

    btw, is quietwinner donkeykong?
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    Oct 17th, 2012 (10/17/2012 1:39am) in reply to SaulGood

     
    Originally Posted by SaulGood View Post

    Well then how about they SHOULDA be 5-1 because of two drops in the endzone in the final seconds vs Arizona so they basically GIFTWRAPPED that win for arizona. Seriously, you sound dumb. Just stop

    jfc you shithawk homers are relentless. i'm done with you bastards.

    good luck with your withered midget of a quarterback. Maybe he can continue winning games 14-12 with an eyes-closed hail mary in the 4th quarter, but I doubt it. The saying is "the best defense is a good offense". It doesn't work the other way around.
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    Oct 17th, 2012 (10/17/2012 3:44am) in reply to MeJahAndOmaha

     
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    Oct 17th, 2012 (10/17/2012 3:46am) in reply to Camz

     
    Originally Posted by Camz View Post

    any time you have EDPxxxx on your side you know you're doing something wrong. Hang it up, QW

    btw, is quietwinner donkeykong?


    You hold grudges for a long time. Fwiw the last few pages I don't agree with.

    For real though. I don't like how some people get butthurt in an argument on here and then carry that argument into other threads. I get in debates or arguments on here but I move on and don't bring it into other threads. there's so many people on here who get butthurt in a debate and then from there on they just troll the dude evey chance they get. That shit looks stupid and all it does is make you look like a baby. I guarantee you camz can't even reference anything showing you why I'm dumb or someone who should be ignored. he just trolls me cause we got into a debate one time and he got all butthurt because I made fun of him. Now he just trolls or throws little jabs whenever he gets a chance like a little immature kid because we got into like 2-3 years ago and I hit a nerve.
    Edited By: XXEDPXX Oct 17th, 2012 at 03:56 AM
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