Originally Posted by marinersheep

Giants should be #1

Can run the ball, pass the ball and play defense. No lead is safe against them; they can come back from any deficit against any team. They take their show on the road better than anyone else. Eli is playing great. They've got tons of depth. I don't see why they're not the best team in the league. I know they have their lapses, but no team in the league is as versatile and complete as the Giants.

Right now I'd probably go...

1. Giants
2. Bears
3. 49ers
4. Texans
5. Packers
6. Patriots
7. Falcons
8. Seahawks
9. Steelers
10. Broncos

okay i get it your low on the falcons, but how in the fuck could u rank the pats ahead of them based on their bodies of work this year?

looooooooooooool at the seahawks in 8th fuck outttttaaaa here. Falcons are 6-0 u realize. i can dig the giants #1 if they were playing defense a lot better and hadn't blown the eagles game.

 

Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181

okay i get it your low on the falcons, but how in the fuck could u rank the pats ahead of them based on their bodies of work this year?

looooooooooooool at the seahawks in 8th fuck outttttaaaa here. Falcons are 6-0 u realize. i can dig the giants #1 if they were playing defense a lot better and hadn't blown the eagles game.

steelers #9 tho

 

Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181

okay i get it your low on the falcons, but how in the fuck could u rank the pats ahead of them based on their bodies of work this year?

looooooooooooool at the seahawks in 8th fuck outttttaaaa here. Falcons are 6-0 u realize.

Yeah, I do realize that the Falcons are 6-0, but look at their schedule. Their toughest game was probably a home Monday night game against Denver or a road game against the Redskins where Griffin got knocked out.

They're not elite in any phase of the game. They're a good passing team. They can kinda run the ball. Their defense is okay.

But there's no fear factor with the Falcons. With the Giants, Bears, 49ers, Texans, Packers and Patriots, they're all elite in certain phases of the game. If the Pats were playing the Falcons, I'm taking the Patriots. I don't think there's much gap, but I don't trust the Falcons yet at all.

They've won the games that they were supposed to win, and that's great, but they haven't done it convincingly. They could have lost to Carolina and Oakland at home, and those are two of the worst teams in the league. They could have lost to the Redskins, but Griffin got hurt.

If I was just looking at W-L, then sure, they're above a couple of those teams.

I don't see what's so absurd about the Seahawks at #8 either. They've got an elite defense and a great running game, not to mention a true homefield edge. And the teams I have below them all have glaring weaknesses. It's not like there are a bunch of juggernauts in the league, and the Seahawks hung with the Niners, blew out Dallas and hung right in there with the Patriots and Packers. If Wilson was where he's at now when we played Arizona in week one and St. Louis, those are likely wins.

It's not like the 49ers have much more than the Seahawks do. Their defenses are both elite, they can both run the ball, and they both lack at the QB position. The 49ers are a little more versatile, and Alex Smith has done it before. But Seattle is very comparable to that team. They're not a great #8, but given the teams at 9 and lower, why not?

hughes thinks the ravens are still top 10 tho. so....

p5s loves records. free randers.

Texans (anything other than the Texans #1 is kinda laughable imo)
Bears
Falcons
49ers
Packers
Giants
Patriots
Broncos
Ravens
Seahawks

EDIT: fuck it gets extra hard starting around the 6-7 range

they really aren't and should be 3-4

 

Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181

Russell Wilson. Russell. Wilson.

and the falcons are most definitely elite... I don't see what else they are supposed to do. Sure they've had some close wins against worse teams, but so have every other team in the top 10 other than the texans.

What else they're supposed to do? They're supposed to take care of business and leave no doubt when you get teams like Carolina and Oakland at home. That Carolina game was a lucky win, and we've seen Atlanta's defense try and give games away to those shitty teams, all under the Georgia Dome roof. It's a glaring red flag.

I don't agree with the line, but there's a reason the 6-0 Falcons are 2 point dogs on the road in Philly this week.

 

Originally Posted by Ozzie

eh, i guess... but these are professional teams. apart from the bottom of the barrel teams, everyones got playmakers even in facets of the game theyre weakest.

giants d looks avg. eli is quickly becoming a top 3 contending qb, though. thats whats making them dangerous.

just wait until january, they won't be average at all my nicca

 

Originally Posted by marinersheep

What else they're supposed to do? They're supposed to take care of business and leave no doubt when you get teams like Carolina and Oakland at home. That Carolina game was a lucky win, and we've seen Atlanta's defense try and give games away to those shitty teams, all under the Georgia Dome roof. It's a glaring red flag.

I don't agree with the line, but there's a reason the 6-0 Falcons are 2 point dogs on the road in Philly this week.

yeah and it has a shit load to do with Philly being like 13-0 after the bye or something nuts like that. Pound ATL + whatever and thank me later.

lol u guys are both huge idiots.

cowboys beat us this year in New York and people like betting the cowboys. Don't read so much into the lines.

I think betting on the Cowboys is a lot like having a baby.........Mexicans love it

 

Originally Posted by marinersheep

On the other hand, you could ding me for having the Giants #1 when they're 1-point dogs to the Cowboys lol. I don't get that line at all.

dont see dallas favored anywhere.

looks like it opened dal -1 and nyg got hammered and are now favored

I was just going off the Simmons pod; I guessed Giants -3 and was shocked that it opened with Dallas as the favorite. Week one was forever ago, and both teams are different. I don't see why it should have any bearing on this game. And it's not like Dallas has a great homefield edge or New York is a bad road team, so the line being anything < 2.5 just seems ridiculous to me.

How about that Philly Atl line?