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  1. paaaaag5 paaaaag5 is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 5:26pm)

    Obv its gonna be Peyton or Breese... but the numbers are so similar its almost impossible. Breese has the slight edge in TD and INT and Comp. % , but Peyton has a bit more yardage and just seems to be the best player in the league every year

    Chris Johnson and Favre deserve an ackowledgement, but pending something crazy, its down to these two QBs...

    My vote goes to Peyton.. what does OT think?
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 5:27pm) in reply to paaaaag5

    Who is this Breese guy you are talking about?
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 5:29pm) in reply to paaaaag5

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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 5:30pm) in reply to paaaaag5

    Chris Johnson was best player this year, but Peyton will win.
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 5:30pm) in reply to SmokeyCasinos

    Easily Manning
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 5:31pm) in reply to SILKY JOHNSON

     
    Originally Posted by vjpconst1 View Post


    Chris Johnson was best player this year, but Peyton will win.

    tough to win MVP when your team starts off 0-6. peyton beats brees but it wont be a runaway.
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 5:35pm) in reply to paaaaag5

    lol favre
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 5:40pm) in reply to tommpat2000

     
    Originally Posted by tommpat2000 View Post

    lol favre

    i know, but they will find a way to give him votes somehow
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 5:42pm) in reply to paaaaag5

    sHOULD BE c jOHNSON BUT ITS BC I AM BLACK.
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 5:42pm) in reply to tommpat2000

     
    Originally Posted by tommpat2000 View Post

    lol favre

    yea hes been terrible man
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 5:49pm) in reply to RoyalCrusher

    wow, and I thought I was a hater, wouldnt say terrible
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 5:50pm) in reply to RoyalCrusher

    manning is the best player in the nfl and the most valuable player on his team. look at what happened against NY when they took him out. CO MVP this year would be a complete sham

    Brees looked pretty good against Tampa also
     
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 5:50pm) in reply to paaaaag5

    from Coldhardfootballfacts.com(with a couple additions from me) :
    Start with the raw numbers:
    • Manning: 101.0 passer rating, 8.0 YPA, 27.3 PPG (team) 33 TDs, 15INTs
    • Rodgers: 102.4 passer rating, 8.2 YPA 28.5 PPG (team) 29TDs, 7INTs
    • Favre: 104.3 passer rating 7.8 YPA 28.4 PPG (team) 29TDs, 7INTs
    • Rivers: 104.5 passer rating, 8.8 YPA, 28.7 PPG (team) 27TDs, 9INTs
    • Brees: 109.6 passer rating, 8.5 YPA, 33.3 PPG (team) 34TDs, 11INTs

    Rivers he hasnt had a single game with a passer rating under 80 all year. Thats consistency. His Chargers have scored at least 21 points in all 15 games, and in their three losses the defense allowed 31, 38 and 34 points. Rodgers has similar stats. Only one game all season with a passer rating below 83, and the Packers have scored at least 21pts in 14 of 15 games.

    Manning, on the other hand, has 10 picks over his last seven games, more than either Brees, Favre or Rodgers have thrown all season.

    Manning is getting a lot of credit for making do with less, even though the only injury of any long-standing note on his side of the ball was No. 2 receiver Anthony Gonzalez. Meanwhile, Rivers has played almost the entire season without his center, Nick Hardwick, and Brees without his left tackle, Jammal Brown. Rodgers has taken more sacks then any player in the NFL with 50, Peyton has taken 10 by comparison. Favre hasnt had to deal with much adversity this season, other then creating chemistry with his WRs.

    I still think its Peyton simply because his team has the most wins, hes the most established, etc. But 4 other QBs are playing just as well as him and would be deserving in any other year.

    EDIT - another reason for Manning - he has no run game whatsoever. The Colts are 32nd in rushing yards and 30th in Rushing yards per attempt.
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 5:56pm) in reply to paaaaag5

    Peyton Manning
     
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 5:56pm) in reply to Aaron_Hacker

     
    Originally Posted by Aaron_Hacker View Post

    manning is the best player in the nfl and the most valuable player on his team. look at what happened against NY when they took him out. CO MVP this year would be a complete sham

    Pretty much any team would look that bad when they are forced to play their #3 QB. Their #2QB is on IR.

     
    Originally Posted by Aaron_Hacker View Post


    Brees looked pretty good against Tampa also

    That was one game. One. Game.
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 5:58pm) in reply to StringerBell

     
    Originally Posted by StringerBell View Post

    from Coldhardfootballfacts.com(with a couple additions from me) :
    Start with the raw numbers:

    • <LI>Manning: 101.0 passer rating, 8.0 YPA, 27.3 PPG (team) 33 TDs, 15INTs
      </LI> <LI>Rodgers: 102.4 passer rating, 8.2 YPA 28.5 PPG (team) 29TDs, 7INTs
      </LI> <LI>Favre: 104.3 passer rating 7.8 YPA 28.4 PPG (team) 29TDs, 7INTs
      </LI> <LI>Rivers: 104.5 passer rating, 8.8 YPA, 28.7 PPG (team) 27TDs, 9INTs
      </LI> <LI>Brees: 109.6 passer rating, 8.5 YPA, 33.3 PPG (team) 34TDs, 11INTs
      </LI>

    Rivers he hasnt had a single game with a passer rating under 80 all year. Thats consistency. His Chargers have scored at least 21 points in all 15 games, and in their three losses the defense allowed 31, 38 and 34 points. Rodgers has similar stats. Only one game all season with a passer rating below 83, and the Packers have scored at least 21pts in 14 of 15 games.

    Manning, on the other hand, has 10 picks over his last seven games, more than either Brees, Favre or Rodgers have thrown all season.

    Manning is getting a lot of credit for making do with less, even though the only injury of any long-standing note on his side of the ball was No. 2 receiver Anthony Gonzalez. Meanwhile, Rivers has played almost the entire season without his center, Nick Hardwick, and Brees without his left tackle, Jammal Brown. Rodgers has taken more sacks then any player in the NFL with 50, Peyton has taken 10 by comparison. Favre hasnt had to deal with much adversity this season, other then creating chemistry with his WRs.

    I still think its Peyton simply because his team has the most wins, hes the most established, etc. But 4 other QBs are playing just as well as him and would be deserving in any other year.

    Nutswinging on Peyton is getting almost unbearable.

    The comments on how he doesn't get enough regonition for how truely great "#18" is, are starting to drain me. I mean the guy is in 10 different commercials 10x per hour on 200 channels.

    They act as if he has won 3 superbowls already or something.
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 5:59pm) in reply to paaaaag5

    The person who should win MVP and the person who does win MVP is usually the same person only 50% of the time.

    But for this year - Peyton Manning should and will win the MVP.
     
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 6:00pm) in reply to SpankyHamm

    I would give it to Rodgers. His o-line was garbage and his feet allowed his team to excel
     
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 6:22pm) in reply to paaaaag5

    Peyton will win and it probably won't be close. No, Favre does not deserve an acknowledgement he's not even the MVP of his own team nevermind the league
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 6:28pm) in reply to Leet8s

     
    Originally Posted by Leet8s View Post

    I would give it to Rodgers. His o-line was garbage and his feet allowed his team to excel

    uh....LOL
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 6:35pm) in reply to Oh Rale

     
    Originally Posted by Oh Rale View Post

    uh....LOL

    uh......LOL what? Rodgers has had an awesome year. Do I think he will be the MVP.. No, but considering him for MVP is not far fetched. Please go fuck yourself.
     
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 6:43pm) in reply to Rocky

     
    Originally Posted by Rocky Of Poker View Post

    Please go fuck yourself.

    awwwww, did you get butthurt by my post. tuff shit, it's an internet forum, everybody has an opinion.
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 6:46pm) in reply to paaaaag5

    If you were to substitute a 100% average quarterback in all attributes for each of the quarterbacks listed by StringerBell, the Colts win # decreases by 3x as much as any other team.

    Anyone disagree?

    Peyton 4 MVP
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 6:46pm) in reply to JPS84

     
    Originally Posted by JPS84 View Post

    Peyton will win and it probably won't be close. No, Favre does not deserve an acknowledgement he's not even the MVP of his own team nevermind the league

    [x] Favre is the MVP of his own team this year.

    [ ] Favre is the MVP of the league.
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 6:48pm) in reply to Oh Rale

     
    Originally Posted by Oh Rale View Post


    awwwww, did you get butthurt by my post. tuff shit, it's an internet forum, everybody has an opinion.

    Are you for serious? No way brah.
     
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 6:52pm) in reply to SCTrojans

     
    Originally Posted by SCTrojans View Post

    If you were to substitute a 100% average quarterback in all attributes for each of the quarterbacks listed by StringerBell, the Colts win # decreases by 3x as much as any other team.

    Anyone disagree?

    Peyton 4 MVP

    No way would the Colts win total decrease 3x as much as any other team.
     
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 6:53pm) in reply to JPS84

     
    Originally Posted by JPS84 View Post

    Peyton will win and it probably won't be close. No, Favre does not deserve an acknowledgement he's not even the MVP of his own team nevermind the league

    oh no?
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 6:54pm) in reply to Rocky

     
    Originally Posted by Rocky Of Poker View Post

    No way would the Colts win total decrease 3x as much as any other team.

    I mean I was exaggerating, but I'd be willing to bet the Colts don't win 5 games if he ever had to sit out a year, whereas the Vikings won 10 last year with Tavaris. Just sayin.
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 6:59pm) in reply to SCTrojans

     
    Originally Posted by SCTrojans View Post

    If you were to substitute a 100% average quarterback in all attributes for each of the quarterbacks listed by StringerBell, the Colts win # decreases by 3x as much as any other team.

    Anyone disagree?

    Peyton 4 MVP

    i dont know about 3x (lol) but obv way more than any of the other QB's. I was at the Jets game and they didnt just pull peyton they pulled everyone
     
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    Dec 30th, 2009 (12/30/2009 6:59pm) in reply to SCTrojans

     
    Originally Posted by SCTrojans View Post

    I mean I was exaggerating, but I'd be willing to bet the Colts don't win 5 games if he ever had to sit out a year, whereas the Vikings won 10 last year with Tavaris. Just sayin.

    Yeah, the Colts back up didn't look too impressive Sunday lolz. Not to be a homer, but I would say that Rodgers has an equal importance to the Packers that Manning has to the Colts, if not more. The Saints have way more talent than both teams combined.
     
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