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  1. We're to assume Chigur has the money in the end correct? (Seeing the dime on the floor in the hotel room with the vent busted out)

    Was the girl naked in the pool in the end? Are we to infer that LouElen and her had a quickie? If so, why is he fully dressed when found ?

    Why did Woody Harrelson's character NOT get the satchel when he first saw it ???

    How did the Mexicans find Louelyen first at the hotel ? They also had a transponder ?

    Who exactly hired Chigur? Do we not know that ?

    thx...insane flic
  2. I got to say that about every one of those questions is answered in the movie. I thought it was the most overrated film of all time and I still knew these q's. They knew where he was cause of the wife in that one taxi scene........... yeesh pay attention!
  3. This is why this was a letdown for me. You are supposed to have the answer to all these ???'s by the end of the movie and they are left unanswered. First 3/4 of movie is awsome.... the last 1/4 not so much. Huge Letdown!
  4. Yes, thats the 2nd time!!

    I'm talking about the 1st time where Chigur found them all, thinking he found Louelen and blasted them.
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  5. I'm just glad that I am not the only one that was seriously dissapointed with this movie.
  6. Over rated??? This was one of the BEST movies i've ever seen....It deserved all the acclaim it received.
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  7. darkpoker, if you know all the answers to those questions, what are they?
  8. Tbh the last 1/4 of this movie is the best part of the movie.
  9. <table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#eeeedd"><td><table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"> </td><td>Re(2): 'No Country for Old Men' questions....(spoilers obv)
    by TheConArtist on 3/17/2008 12:18 </td><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td><nobr> </nobr> </td><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td bgcolor="#ffffff"></td><td colspan="2"><table celspacing="0" border="0" cellpadding="2"><tbody><tr><td>Tbh the last 1/4 of this movie is the worst part of the movie. </td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>
  10. did the two of you watch this movie twice? just curious..because as for Zodiac, Michael Clayton and the departed i had to watch those movies twice before i really enjoyed them.

    no country for old men was the same way for me as those movies, i didnt really enjoy it that much the first time. i'm going to make an effort to watch it again asap
  11. I watched it a 2nd time and will watch it a 3rd time when time permits....Some of the best acting in a long time.
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  12. I didn't like Zodiac at all.
    I turned Michael Clayton off after about 45 minutes of pure bordom.
    Departed was fantastic.
    No Country was pretty sick, but left a lot unanswered and that pisses me off. So I give it a 7/10.
     
  13. When chigur kills that business man in his office he asks why he gave the mexicans a second transponder.
  14. lol at your first two reviews, they are right in line with my original opinions of those two movies.

    the first time i saw Zodiac in the theatre i nearly fell asleep and wanted to walk out half way through. the second time i saw it was at my house and i swear this time i actually really enjoyed the entire movie. i would have never done this had i not seen all the great reviews in OT, but now i'm glad i did. turned out to be a great flick if you completely pay attention and you're not tired or buzzin

    same with Michael Clayton, i actually did fall asleep though when i was watching it on Saturday, but determined to see why this movie got such good reviews, i watched it again yesterday and i wasnt tired or buzzin and i ended up loving the movie
  15. Oh, so the same guy hired both Chigur and Woody Harrelson's character ?
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  16. Read:

    <span>Plot</span>

    The film opens with shots of desolate, wide-open country in West Texas in June 1980. In a voiceover, the local sheriff Ed Tom Bell (Tommy Lee Jones) tells of the changing times as the region becomes increasingly violent. The antagonist, Anton Chigurh (Javier Bardem), and his unique weapon, a captive bolt pistol, are introduced as Chigurh strangles a sheriff's deputy, escapes custody, and steals a car by using the bolt pistol to kill the driver. Meanwhile, Llewelyn Moss (Josh Brolin), hunting pronghorn near the Rio Grande river, comes across a collection of corpses and one dying Mexican: the aftermath of a drug deal gone awry. He also finds two million dollars in a satchel a short distance from the massacre. Initially taking the money and leaving the Mexican to die, Moss has an attack of conscience later that night and returns with water for the dying man. Discovered by returning Mexican gangsters, this good deed sets off a cat-and-mouse game in which the hunter and hunted frequently switch roles, as the gang of Mexicans, Moss, Chigurh, and Bell chase each other and the money across the Texas and Mexico landscapes.

    Chigurh, a professional hitman, has been hired to retrieve the satchel of money (which contains a hidden radio transponder to which Chigurh has the corresponding receiver). Chigurh and the Mexicans track Moss to a motel room where Moss has hidden the satchel inside an air vent. The Mexicans arrive first and wait inside the room to ambush Moss. Moss, however, sees them and rents an adjacent room to retrieve the satchel through the common vent. In the meantime, Chigurh arrives, bursts into the room with the Mexicans, and slaughters them. Searching for the satchel, Chigurh removes the vent cover with a dime and realizes Moss has escaped with the money. Using the transponder, Chirgurh tracks Moss to a border town hotel, his pursuit climaxing in a firefight that spills onto the streets. Narrowly escaping death by crossing the border, Moss wakes up in a Mexican hospital and meets Carson Wells (Woody Harrelson), another operative hired by the drug buyer. After Moss rejects Wells's offer to save his life, Wells returns to his hotel where he is captured and killed by Chigurh, just as Moss calls Wells. Picking up the phone, Chigurh offers to spare Moss's wife Carla Jean if Moss forfeits the money, an offer that Moss angrily rejects.

    Moss, realizing Chigurh will find Carla Jean and kill her, arranges a rendezvous with her in El Paso to give her the money and send her out of harms way. The characters all converge on a seedy hotel in El Paso, but not simultaneously: Sheriff Bell and Carla Jean do not arrive until after Moss has been killed by the Mexicans in a shootout.

    Sheriff Bell returns that night to the now-quiet motel and finds that the lock to Moss's hotel room door has been blown out. Chigurh is shown hiding behind the door of the hotel room as he observes Bell in the reflection of the empty lock hole. His gun drawn, Bell enters the room and notices the vent cover has been removed with a dime. Bell eventually leaves without encountering Chigurh.

    Some time later Bell visits his Uncle Ellis (Barry Corbin), an ex-lawman. Bell is planning to retire due to his weariness of the changing times, but Ellis points out that the region has always been violent. He accuses Bell of "vanity" in thinking that he could personally make a difference. Chigurh, in the meantime, has located the widowed Carla Jean and waits for her at her recently deceased mother's home. Despite telling her that he "gave Llewelyn his word" that she would die if Moss did not hand over the money, Chigurh reconsiders and offers Carla Jean the same "coin flip" opportunity previously given to an innocent bystander. Carla Jean, however, refuses to call heads or tails. The audience sees Chigurh leaving the house, carefully checking the soles of his boots. As Chigurh drives away he is injured in a car accident and his left arm is badly broken; he manages, however, to leave the scene before the police arrive.

    The film closes with Bell at home, in retirement, reflecting on his life choices. Bell relates to his wife (Tess Harper) two dreams he had, both involving his deceased father, also a lawman. He reveals that in the first dream he lost "some money" that his father had given him; in the second dream, he and his father were riding horses through a snowy mountain pass. His father, who was carrying fire in a horn, quietly passed by Bell with his head down and was "going on ahead, and fixin' to make a fire" in the surrounding dark and cold. When Bell got there, his father would be waiting. Bell closes the dream narrative, and the film, with the final words: "And then I woke up."
  17. looooollll at OP

    wow did you even pay attention during the film?
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  18. dedheadsteve-You ARE a fucking moron.
  19. Yea its a real easy film to decipher i know!
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  20. soooo...are any of the people who found this film simple going to answer the questions, or just remark at how dumb the asker is?
  21. <H3><A name=.2.1.9><SPAN id=swiki.2.1.9.1>Why was Chigurh being arrested at the beginning of the film? </SPAN></A></H3>

    The film doesn't give a reason.

    In the book, Chigurh told Wells that he had allowed himself get arrested to see if he could escape. Chigurh had murdered a man in a bar fight the previous night; the man had insulted him. According the Chigurh's description, he had either snapped the man's neck or strangled him.

    <H3><A name=.2.1.7><SPAN id=swiki.2.1.7.1>What is that tank that Chigurh uses to punch out locks? </SPAN></A></H3>

    Chigurh uses a captive bolt pistol, which is also known as a cattle gun. The tank itself is pressurized air. Releasing the air valve powers the bolt when triggered.

    <H3><A name=.2.1.8><SPAN id=swiki.2.1.8.1>What time period does the film take place in? </SPAN></A></H3>

    The story takes place in 1980.

    When Chigurh tosses the coin for the gas station proprietor, he says that the date on the coin is 1958, and it took 22 years to get there. The phone bill Chigurh picks up is dated 1980. <SPAN class=spoiler $included="null"><SPAN>And 1980 is the date of death on Agnes' grave.</SPAN></SPAN>

    <H3><A name=.2.1.1><SPAN id=swiki.2.1.1.1>Who were the Mexicans in the first motel room? </SPAN></A></H3>

    <SPAN class=spoiler $included="null"><SPAN>The three Mexicans at the Del Rio motel were hired by the man (Stephen Root) who hires Wells and Chigurh.

    When Moss is being taken back by taxi, he asks the driver to drive around to "see if someone is here." He spots a truck in the parking lot that resembles the trucks used in the desert massacre. He also notices that the curtains are slightly open, even though he had closed them before he left. Moss realizes that the Mexicans are waiting in his room to kill him. He tells the driver to take him to another motel, and in the morning he purchases the shotgun and tent poles. He rents the motel room adjacent to the one the Mexicans are hiding in. The vents are connected. As he returns to collect the money, Chigurh arrives. He is shown opening the door quickly and turning on the light. He is testing how fast he can open the door so he might get the drop on the Mexicans: in the next scene, he opens the door in the same way. And then he tests if he can shoot through the wall, which he also does in the next scene.

    As Chigurh enters Moss' first motel room and kills the Mexicans, Moss is in the second motel room attempting to get the money out. He is able to escape and hitchhike a ride away from the motel.</SPAN></SPAN>

    <H3><A name=.2.1.2><SPAN id=swiki.2.1.2.1>What happens at the El Paso motel near the end? </SPAN></A></H3>

    <SPAN class=spoiler $included="null"><SPAN>Llewelyn Moss goes to the motel and waits to be reunited with Carla Jean and Agnes (her mother). While waiting, the poolside woman flirts with him and offers him beers. The Mexicans knew where he was headed because Agnes had told them at the bus station. During the ensuing shootout, the poolside woman was killed and her body was found in the pool. Moss was able to shoot one of the Mexicans before he was shot in the chest and died inside his motel room. The remaining Mexicans ran off as Sheriff Bell pulled into the parking lot.</SPAN></SPAN>

    <H3><A name=.2.1.3><SPAN id=swiki.2.1.3.1>What happened to the money? </SPAN></A></H3>

    <SPAN class=spoiler $included="null"><SPAN>It is implied that Anton Chigurh wound up with the money. Since he wasn't part of the El Paso motel shootout, he arrived there too late. After the police activity died down, Chigurh sneaked into Moss' room and unscrewed the vent to retrieve the satchel of money. He knew this is where the money would be because he saw the track marks inside the vent of the Del Rio motel room, and knew that Moss kept it in the vent. When Sheriff Bell arrives at the El Paso motel, he sees that the vent was unscrewed by a coin, which Chigurh used in the previous motel, and he sees the track marks inside the vent (which showed that the satchel was indeed stashed there). Also, after Chigurh is involved in the car accident at the end, he offers the bicycle boys a hundred dollar bill, which also implies that he did wind up with the money.

    (NOTE: In the book, Chigurh found the money and returned it to a third party. Like Wells said, he did have his principles!)</SPAN></SPAN>

    <H3><A name=.2.1.4><SPAN id=swiki.2.1.4.1>What happened to Agnes and Carla Jean? </SPAN></A></H3>

    <SPAN class=spoiler $included="null"><SPAN>Agnes died of her cancer some time after Moss was killed.

    Even though it is debatable on whether Chigurh killed Carla Jean or not, it is implied that he did kill her. After she refuses to call the coin toss, Chigurh is seen leaving her house and checking his boots, presumably to make sure he doesn't have any blood on them. In an earlier scene after shooting Carson Wells, Chigurh sees the blood coming down the floor and puts his feet on the bed, to avoid gettin blood on his boots. (NOTE: In the book, he shot her.)</SPAN></SPAN>

    <H3><A name=.2.1.5><SPAN id=swiki.2.1.5.1>Where was Chigurh when Bell went back to the El Paso motel room? </SPAN></A></H3>

    Chigurh was long gone when Bell arrived to the crime scene. Bell was assuming the worst would be waiting for him behind that door when he went into the room, hence Chigurh behind the door. However, when Bell opened the door, all he found was the air vent unscrewed by the dime...the same Chigurh unscrewed the vent earlier in the movie. Chigurh behind the door was Bell's imagination.

    A Different Take: (Book Spoiler Alert) The movie doesn't show clearly whether or not Chigurh is in the room when Bell enters. It shows him there before Bell enters, but as said above, his presence could have just been in Bell's mind.

    The novel actually has Chigurh waiting in his vehicle with the just-retrieved money next to him and a pistol in his lap as Bell pulls up to the motel crime scene in his cruiser. Once Bell enters the motel room, there is no further mention of Chigurh's presence in the motel parking lot. He could've driven away while Bell was checking the room out or after Bell left the motel scene and pulled his cruiser over to the side of the road, out of sight of the motel.

    One thing worth noting is that in the book, Bell leaves the motel room and walks back to his cruiser firmly believing that Chigurh is out there in the parking lot and that he (Bell) might be killed at any moment.

    So, in the book, Chigurh is in the parking lot when Bell is in the motel room, but we don't know if he's still there when Bell leaves the motel room with his gun drawn and the feeling that he's likely to be killed. However, in the movie, we are shown an image of Chigurh inside the motel room before Bell enters it, but we don't know if he's there after Bell enters with his gun drawn and the feeling he's likely to die.

    In the movie, Bell's moment of truth comes when he enters the motel room. He has a strong feeling that Chigurh might be there waiting for him in the room. In the book, Bell's moment of truth comes when he exits the motel room and enters the parking lot. He has a strong feeling that Chigurh is watching him from somewhere in the parking lot.

    From the point of view of the novel, if we assume that Chigurh left the parking lot while Bell was in the motel room, then from the point of view of the movie, there may be something to the idea that Chigurh had actually left the motel room before Bell entered it.

    In fact, we can't say whether he was in the room or not. There are no direct facts to prove that he was actually in the room. There are neither any facts to prove that he was only a fragment of Bell's imagination. This is not supposed to be explained to us in the movie, it is for us to marvel and contemplate about. Just as the Coens wanted us to.

    It is interesting to note that the screenplay explicitly states that Chigurh is present in the room while Bell stands outside it. It even says they see each other in the reflection from the shot-out lock cylinder.

    <H3><A name=.2.1.10><SPAN id=swiki.2.1.10.1>What's the significance of Sheriff Bell's two dreams at the end? </SPAN></A></H3> The meaning of the two dreams can be thought of as Bell's fear of some final judgment. The dreams are symbolic, so by whom Bell will be judged is up for interpretation.

    Bell explains the first dream to his wife briefly, trying not to make too much of it. But, the meaning is quite significant. He says his father met him in town and gave him some money, but he (Bell) lost it. This can be seen as Bell feeling as if he were entrusted with something valuable, but failed to protect it. See this as his responsibility as a law enforcement officer, the lives of the people he was responsible for protecting, his father's wisdom, and so on. It's an acknowledgment of his feelings of failure.

    The second dream is connected with the first. In the second dream, he says he and his father were riding through the mountains in the old times. His father rode up ahead of him and went on into the cold and dark with some fire. Bell said that he knew when he got to where his father was going, his father would be there waiting for him.

    His father going up ahead into the cold, dark night with the fire representing his father passing from the physical world into the afterlife (whatever that may be). The fire could represent Bell's father's lifeforce, or spirit.

    Bell knows he's going to where his father went, and as the final curtain starts to come down on his life, he's second-guessing his whole existence. What will his father have to say about it?

    In those final speeches we see that he is really thinking about how he might be largely responsible for his own failings (the first dream), and for him, going on up ahead into the cold darkness and eventually meeting his father means just what you think: He's heading toward the end and a possible final judgment, either by his father, or God, or whomever. And Bell is afraid that if there is a final judgment, it may be a harsh one. Did he measure up to the old-time lawmen? Did he make his father proud? Did he fail more than any of his predecessors in law enforcement (his father, grandfather, etc.) did? <SPAN class=spoiler $included="null"><SPAN>After all, he failed to protect Llewelyn and Carla Jean Moss.</SPAN></SPAN>

    He's contemplating what many people contemplate as they get old and the curtain starts coming down on their lives: How should I be judged for the life I've lived?
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  22. <H3>I thought I remember chigurh asking carla jean where the money was? i thought that implied the money was gone?<A name=.2.1.3><SPAN id=swiki.2.1.3.1>

    What happened to the money? </SPAN></A></H3>

    <SPAN class=spoiler $included="null"><SPAN>It is implied that Anton Chigurh wound up with the money. Since he wasn't part of the El Paso motel shootout, he arrived there too late. After the police activity died down, Chigurh sneaked into Moss' room and unscrewed the vent to retrieve the satchel of money. He knew this is where the money would be because he saw the track marks inside the vent of the Del Rio motel room, and knew that Moss kept it in the vent. When Sheriff Bell arrives at the El Paso motel, he sees that the vent was unscrewed by a coin, which Chigurh used in the previous motel, and he sees the track marks inside the vent (which showed that the satchel was indeed stashed there). Also, after Chigurh is involved in the car accident at the end, he offers the bicycle boys a hundred dollar bill, which also implies that he did wind up with the money.

    (NOTE: In the book, Chigurh found the money and returned it to a third party. Like Wells said, he did have his principles!)</SPAN></SPAN>
  23. No I dont think he ever mentioned the money to Carla Jean
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  24. she said she spent it all etc etc....
  25. Yea but he never asked her about it, she just assumed thats why he was there...He was just there to finish his business.
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  26. ok that is what i kind of thought, i just remembered her mentioning it, but wasn't sure if that was done arbitrarily
  27. Part of the brilliance of this movie is that not everything is answered for you. That's part of life and what makes it so fascinating. Have a fucking imagination, people.
  28. ^^^^^^^^^^ agree
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  29. People love to be spoon-fed.

    I loved this movie, and I loved it before all the hype.

    Also, why did someone above say that "the questions are supposed to be answered at the end, but they're not."

    Who says?
     
  30. I like Chigur, he keeps his promises :)