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I actually don't think most Christians are bad. I've met a few that I felt were genuinely good, kind (and non-judgemental) people. It's rather difficult to criticize the moralist perspective set forth by most Christian churches. Love your neighbor, don't steal, don't lie, don't kill, that's all good stuff. The problem is that there are people in the leadership that don't represent all of these values, and they give the rest of Christianity a bad name.
This is a video from the D.L. Hughley show that has an interview with Frank Schaefer. Frank is the son of Francis Schaefer, who was an integral part of the founding of the religious right.
If most Christians were as thoughtful and considerate (and intelligent) as this man, I would become a proponent of the Christian morality (though not a believer in any particular dogma). Unfortunately, most Christians are hypocrits (or lazy Christians, or racists, or other).
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im so sick of OT right now, where the fuck am i supposed to go to laugh at shit?
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It's a start right?Originally Posted by marinersheep
How generous of youOriginally Posted by skeptix
I actually don't think most Christians are bad.
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I'm 26.Originally Posted by hoosierdaddy
im so sick of OT right now, where the fuck am i supposed to go to laugh at shit?
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thats wierd. i thought he was a pompus ass. yeah, nothing judgemental about that clown. zactly who is this dude again?
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Seems like a nice guy, but a) is religious, b) doesn't have anything interesting to say about politics/ideology (Bush bad, Rush bad, support the president...yawn). Not sure why he's on TV, I could get this from one of my neighbors.
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Right, but I do think he is relevant considering his family background.Originally Posted by emcee21
Seems like a nice guy, but a) is religious, b) doesn't have anything interesting to say about politics/ideology (Bush bad, Rush bad, support the president...yawn). Not sure why he's on TV, I could get this from one of my neighbors.
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what about me? peckerhead.Originally Posted by mathclub
slugger is my favourite christian person, kills this guy imo.
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I get the impression your use of "pompous" is a misnomer in this case, but I'd be willing to be shown wrong. Also, calling someone a clown is just so weak. If you want to criticize someone, fine, but do so in a semi-thoughtful way. Merely dismissing them as a "clown" or a "goofball" is intellectually lazy to the extreme.Originally Posted by kowboy8686
thats wierd. i thought he was a pompus ass. yeah, nothing judgemental about that clown. zactly who is this dude again?
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I once met an atheist who didn't try to rape me. true story! I was as shocked as you are.
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kowboy8686 - is a good dude, likes cowboysOriginally Posted by kowboy8686
what about me? peckerhead.Originally Posted by mathclub
slugger is my favourite christian person, kills this guy imo.
sluggerwv - is a good dude, likes cowboys and posts pictures of hot chicks.
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screw you, gorilla guts.Originally Posted by skeptix
I get the impression your use of "pompous" is a misnomer in this case, but I'd be willing to be shown wrong. Also, calling someone a clown is just so weak. If you want to criticize someone, fine, but do so in a semi-thoughtful way. Merely dismissing them as a "clown" or a "goofball" is intellectually lazy to the extreme.Originally Posted by kowboy8686
thats wierd. i thought he was a pompus ass. yeah, nothing judgemental about that clown. zactly who is this dude again?
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yeahhhh, damn! i like him better too.Originally Posted by mathclub
kowboy8686 - is a good dude, likes cowboysOriginally Posted by kowboy8686
what about me? peckerhead.Originally Posted by mathclub
slugger is my favourite christian person, kills this guy imo.
sluggerwv - is a good dude, likes cowboys and posts pictures of hot chicks.
you do the math......
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wait wait wait a second here. DL Hughley has a show on .........CNN?! What am I missing here?
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About what I expected. You're one of the people he's talking about in the interview. You're a hypocrite. If you believed in the teachings of Jesus, you wouldn't be so sarcastic or dismissive (or a good word he used, crass). Christianity is a convenience for you. And you're basically the reason I turn into a reactionary agnostic.Originally Posted by kowboy8686
screw you, gorilla guts.Originally Posted by skeptix
I get the impression your use of "pompous" is a misnomer in this case, but I'd be willing to be shown wrong. Also, calling someone a clown is just so weak. If you want to criticize someone, fine, but do so in a semi-thoughtful way. Merely dismissing them as a "clown" or a "goofball" is intellectually lazy to the extreme.Originally Posted by kowboy8686
thats wierd. i thought he was a pompus ass. yeah, nothing judgemental about that clown. zactly who is this dude again?
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i met an irish guy that doesnt drink. meh...im lyin.
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suit your self sally. until you meet a perfect Christian remain hell bound. thatll teach me!Originally Posted by skeptix
About what I expected. You're one of the people he's talking about in the interview. You're a hypocrite. If you believed in the teachings of Jesus, you wouldn't be so sarcastic or dismissive (or a good word he used, crass). Christianity is a convenience for you. And you're basically the reason I turn into a reactionary agnostic.Originally Posted by kowboy8686
screw you, gorilla guts.Originally Posted by skeptix
I get the impression your use of "pompous" is a misnomer in this case, but I'd be willing to be shown wrong. Also, calling someone a clown is just so weak. If you want to criticize someone, fine, but do so in a semi-thoughtful way. Merely dismissing them as a "clown" or a "goofball" is intellectually lazy to the extreme.Originally Posted by kowboy8686
thats wierd. i thought he was a pompus ass. yeah, nothing judgemental about that clown. zactly who is this dude again?
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lol at this thread
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hehe i thought it had a chance for 350 post. this place is sad without football to argue about.
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for the second time, fk this goatroaper.Originally Posted by kowboy8686
thats wierd. i thought he was a pompus ass. yeah, nothing judgemental about that clown. zactly who is this dude again?
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ahhhhhh yeeaaaahhOriginally Posted by darkpoker12
lol at this thread
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Unlike some people who equate bashing of them with bashing of their religion, I've no problem with Christians or Christianity, as long as they stay off my religious freedom. Do that, and we're a-ok.
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So weak. Dismissive and weak. And what a horrible Christian to seemingly take pride in the idea that I will be burning for eternity and you won't be. Fuck you.Originally Posted by kowboy8686
suit your self sally. until you meet a perfect Christian remain hell bound. thatll teach me!Originally Posted by skeptix
About what I expected. You're one of the people he's talking about in the interview. You're a hypocrite. If you believed in the teachings of Jesus, you wouldn't be so sarcastic or dismissive (or a good word he used, crass). Christianity is a convenience for you. And you're basically the reason I turn into a reactionary agnostic.Originally Posted by kowboy8686
screw you, gorilla guts.Originally Posted by skeptix
I get the impression your use of "pompous" is a misnomer in this case, but I'd be willing to be shown wrong. Also, calling someone a clown is just so weak. If you want to criticize someone, fine, but do so in a semi-thoughtful way. Merely dismissing them as a "clown" or a "goofball" is intellectually lazy to the extreme.Originally Posted by kowboy8686
thats wierd. i thought he was a pompus ass. yeah, nothing judgemental about that clown. zactly who is this dude again?
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Stop being a horrible Christian.Originally Posted by hoosierdaddy
for the second time, fk this goatroaper.Originally Posted by kowboy8686
thats wierd. i thought he was a pompus ass. yeah, nothing judgemental about that clown. zactly who is this dude again?
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There are hundreds of millions of Christians on the planet. You claim to be familiar with most of them. vwpOriginally Posted by skeptix
Unfortunately, most Christians are hypocrits (or lazy Christians, or racists, or other).
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I don't think it's the vast majority. I don't even think it's the majority. At least from my personal experience, something like 80% of religious folk are judgmental, bigoted or what has been demonstrated here, bad Christians.Originally Posted by resilient
The VAST majority of Christians are nice people and not annoying.... it's just that you never hear from them.
It's the evangelical bible beaters that annoy you... and they are a signficant minority, but their noise draws attention and creates annoyance.
I don't really think many Christians invest in their beliefs the way I would if I were a believer. They're lazy and don't want to form their own world view, so they take the one conveniently given to them. Then they continue to be the lazy and selfish people they always were. If they would invest in their "beliefs", they would recognize they are not practicing what they preach. -
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umm this ^^^Originally Posted by DONKWOOD
wait wait wait a second here. DL Hughley has a show on .........CNN?! What am I missing here?
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