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Wow.
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201010150002
Kilmeade defends O'Reilly's View appearance: "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim" -
that whole "View" thing is just a ratings ploy
Bill was wrong by the way. -
The problem is this is not something we should laugh off with a LOLFox News.
The network pushes this idiocy non-stop and it breeds more and more ignorance. I hope someday soon Fox will be legally required to remove "news" from their network.
It is an insult to rational thought, but it also undermines our national security.
Who wants to be at war with Islam? Not me. -
Lenny, you know I <3 you, but please don't say thing like this. As a thought experiment, what would be the mechanism for requiring Fox News to change their brand name? Come on, man. I know you are just venting, but these are the kinds of things that make Willywoo's ears burn and then he comes stomping in here with his slippery slope bullshit and getting ginwilly and jetsjets all worked up.
Originally Posted by Lenny
The problem is this is not something we should laugh off with a LOLFox News.
The network pushes this idiocy non-stop and it breeds more and more ignorance. I hope someday soon Fox will be legally required to remove "news" from their network.
It is an insult to rational thought, but it also undermines our national security.
Who wants to be at war with Islam? Not me. -
Well, with Pres. Obama out there apologizing to the muslim world, we should be good for a while.
Edited By: jesterwords Oct 16th, 2010 at 03:56 AM
Edit - Isn't Killmead on the morning show? That is not considered to be a news program. Its morning entertainment.
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Have a drink OP....lighten up. Pretend you are 16 again... you know... back when you wouldn't even know who a guy like Bill O'reilly or Fox news even was.
That is my game plan as of late anyway... politics is sfrigged. lol at following all the drama any more. -
Why not? Should I be allowed to package sewage and call it "Orange Juice"?
I'm sure FOX Inc. or FOX TALK would still be successful.
FTR I believe the vast majority of "infotainment" does the public a disservice (across all networks).
I'm not saying they can't be on the air. It's cable anyway. I'm saying remove the tag.
Meh, when I was 16 I was reading The Economist and going to Model UN. FML. -
I think I read somewhere that msnbc.com wanted to differentiate its branding from the TV channel MSNBC.
It seems like the .com people were not happy with the liberal slant of the "personalities" of the TV network.
In other news, FOX should do a subtle switch up and just say FOX during its entertainment programs, and FOX NEWS during its actual "news format" programing. -
FOX & Friends - FOXNews.com
FOX & Friends on FOXNews.com. FOX & Friends features reports on famous faces, health, heroes, legal issues and news you can use. Video clips on FOXNews.com.
www.foxnews.com/foxfriends/ - Cached - Similar
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Is there a difference between fox news now and msnbc when bush was president and rachel maddox saying bush should be hung and put in prison for war crimes on national tv when he is a sitting president?
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Sorry not the same.
Originally Posted by Lenny
FOX & Friends - FOXNews.com
FOX & Friends on FOXNews.com. FOX & Friends features reports on famous faces, health, heroes, legal issues and news you can use. Video clips on FOXNews.com.
www.foxnews.com/foxfriends/ - Cached - Similar
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First of, the Fox and Friends folks are complete shallow dolts.
Second, while what O'Reilly said was completely broad he didn't say anything untrue. It was intellectually weak but hardly offensive.
Third, how FOS are Behar and Whoopie? They're able to raise their outrageous outrage meter to 11 for O'Reilly all the while they spent years listening to Rosie's trutherism without batting an eye. Is saying a factual, if foolish and shallow statement that much more offensive than suggesting our government allowed/orchestrated our people to be murdered? Puhleeeeeeeeze. Furthermore Behar even had one of the most well known truthers, Jesse Ventura, on her CNN show the night of this whole episode where even Jesse reminded her of his stance. And yet, still not a hint of indignation or even acknowledgment of the irony of her conflicting responses. -
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Originally Posted by Lenny
Wow.
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201010150002
Kilmeade defends O'Reilly's View appearance: "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim"
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http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mo...t-company-trap
Team Stupid v Team Evil
Makes it a little better. -
O'Reily went on the View to sell books, think it worked? You guys take these talking heads way too seriously. OMG FoxNews is going to start WWIII!
He said Muslims flew planes into the world trade center which is um, true? Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor but if it happened today we would have to say Japanese extremists bombed Pearl Harbor. The point of view that all Muslims are responsible is tarded but he did say it was Muslim Extremist after the hens flew the coop and it was just him and Barbara.
It was completely insensitive and stupid to say but the screaming hen reaction was so bad it was comical and sold O'Reily another few books. It made him a household name and gave him the kind of publicity you just can't pay for. I really think he planned it and got exactly the reaction he wanted.
FTR people who watch shows like his for news and believe everything they say are just a stupid and naive as the people who get their panties in a bunch over everything they say. It's the entertainment portion of a news channel and they are masterful at getting ratings. Think this will help or hurt? -
We should say the Japanese air force bombed Pearl Harbor.
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You're right that the View appearance by O'Reilly was meaningless and a complete faux controversy. I'm not a fan of the show and I think the whole thing is stupid.
Kilmeade should be fired for what he said, if Rick Sanchez is going to get fired for what he said. But I doubt Fox will do it. They know their audience likes it when Kilmeade says stupid ignorant bigoted shit, so from a business standpoint, it would be stupid for them to fire him and they probably won't. With that in mind, if Rick Sanchez had half the ratings that the Fox idiots have, he probably would have survived too.
It's kind of funny that Fox "News" is no longer even trying to pretend to be non-biased. When they donate $1.25 million to the Republican Governor's Association and another $1 million to the US Chamber of Commerce, it's pretty clear where their loyalties are. I wonder what the right wing response would have been if, during Bush's presidency, MSNBC had made a $1 million donation to the Democratic Governor's Association and another $1 million to MoveOn.org? I'm sure they would have said it was perfectly fine, right? Right? -
And other countries should say American Politicians and military occupy over 300 countries. I'm not offended at the people who say Americans occupy their lands I'm offended at the Politicians that create policy to do so. Muslims should be offended (and most are) and publicly denounce these crazies and denounce Sharia Law.
Geraldo ripped O'Reily a new one..... on FoxNews, WWIII baby here we come. -
As a vocal hater of Islam, I'd like to say Brian Kilmeade is a fucking retard.
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Can someone, preferably lenny since he created this joke of a thread, please explain with facts why they despise fox news? Oreilly making a foolish but predominately true statement hardly is enough reason to hate an entire network. Give me a break. The amount of ridiculous statements that come out of cnn or msnbc dwarfs anything you see on fox, yet I dont see anyone up in arms like people are against fox. You have a choice what to watch and where to obtain your "news" from. If you dont like what is being said, change the fucking channel and shut your mouth. Fox does nothing the other networks don't do and until I see any facts proving otherwise I would consider Fox to be the most reputable of all the outlets. A few moronic libs make a bunch of noise about how biased fox news is without backing it up with any facts and before you know it you have a hoard of numb skulls following suit. This video below is a perfect example of what I am referring to. If you only watch msnbc you would sit there and say " I knew it fox news is racist ".... Fuck off.
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If MSNBC donated 2 million they would blow their whole budget and be bankrupt. Right wingers the world over would rejoice.
Edited By: ginwilly Oct 16th, 2010 at 04:41 AM -
Pithy but evasive. No points.
Originally Posted by ginwilly
If MSNBC donated 2 million they would blow their whole budget and be bankrupt. Right wingers the world over would rejoice.
Fact: News Corp donated $1.25 million to the Republican Governor's Association.Originally Posted by CZuke39
Can someone, preferably lenny since he created this joke of a thread, please explain with facts why they despise fox news?
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Fox does nothing the other networks don't do and until I see any facts proving otherwise I would consider Fox to be the most reputable of all the outlets.
Fact: News Corp donated $1 million to the US Chamber of Commerce, which is currently spending about $75 million to run ads against Democrats. (About 90% against Democrats, not 100%)
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CZuke, even righties, if they've got any sense at all, realize Fox has absolutely no credibility whatsoever.
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I was evasive because I don't get your point. They have an agenda? wow, great detective work there Sherlock. What's worse, a business donating money we know exactly where it came from or millions donated to a campaign from pre-paid visa cards from all over the world that we have no clue who is behind the money.
FTR if republicans take the holy trinity then Fox's ratings will probably go down and the MSNBCs of the world will go up. It's counter productive on the business side so maybe they are doing it because they believe it's what's best for the country, hard to believe I know, that not everyone thinks left wing policies are good, but it's true.
I bet you were really really upset with SC ruling because it's not fair to dems in your eyes weren't you.
COC is a group formed to represent business in this country, of course they are against present policy. -
I don't think many people are going to deny Fox has a right leaning editorial platform nor are many gonna deny the left leaning platform of MSNBC. Both are filling market voids, so good for them in doing so. But you just have to distinguish between their editorial platforms and their actual news wings where both drift much closer to the center.
Either way, I hope the cable news phenomenon is just a flash in the pan. By its very nature its intellectually shallow and drifts towards talking points over any actualy discussion of substance. If anybody is truly interested in watching informed debate I suggest watching www.bloggingheads.tv at least once a week. I've been slacking off watching them lately but for a while I was trying to catch at least one a week. Its definitely worth the hour if its a subject you're interested in. -
Time Warner, the parent company of CNN, has also been politically active. According to filings, the company has donated $536,000 to Democrats during the 2010 election cycle. That represents 85% of all political donations from the company. During the 2008 cycle, Turner gave more than $2.3 million to Democrats, or 81% of all donations from the company.
Your right only fox news is making donations.... Come on man, Ive read enough of your post and although we dont agree on most things political, if you think fox is the only one making donations to a political party, you have to pull your head out of the sand. All of these news agencies have biases and until someone shows me facts upon facts of fox news purposely making up lies or distorting facts to make the left look bad, im not buying it. The outrage from people over fox news is so ridiculous its laughable. -
LOL@ anyone that was cool with that old white dude saying "muslims killed us"
are ppl really that dumb to think that that was kosher? if you're defending what your hero said, why did he change his wordings afterward?
hmmmmmmmm
mistakingly thought you were smart. Your analogy however is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Sleep on it, and come back tomorrow. I'll await the edit. Idiot.Originally Posted by ginwilly
O'Reily went on the View to sell books, think it worked? You guys take these talking heads way too seriously. OMG FoxNews is going to start WWIII!
He said Muslims flew planes into the world trade center which is um, true? Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor but if it happened today we would have to say Japanese extremists bombed Pearl Harbor. The point of view that all Muslims are responsible is tarded but he did say it was Muslim Extremist after the hens flew the coop and it was just him and Barbara.
It was completely insensitive and stupid to say but the screaming hen reaction was so bad it was comical and sold O'Reily another few books. It made him a household name and gave him the kind of publicity you just can't pay for. I really think he planned it and got exactly the reaction he wanted.
FTR people who watch shows like his for news and believe everything they say are just a stupid and naive as the people who get their panties in a bunch over everything they say. It's the entertainment portion of a news channel and they are masterful at getting ratings. Think this will help or hurt?
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