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Obama announcing complete drawdown of troops in Iraq by EOY

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  1. HK_MP5N HK_MP5N is offline

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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 5:56pm)

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44990594...east_n_africa/

    Interesting...

    TITLE EDIT: TROOPS
    Edited By: HK_MP5N Oct 21st, 2011 at 05:57 PM
    Reason: fucking spelling
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 5:58pm) in reply to HK_MP5N

    Yay! Something I can cheer Obama for even if it is a bit late.
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 5:59pm) in reply to Dyzalot

    GOD OBAMA YOU'RE JUST A THIRD TERM OF BUSH WHY DO YOU BREAK ALL YOUR CAMPAIGN PROMISES YOU SAID YOU'D BRING THE TROOPS HO...

    wait, what?

    oh.

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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 5:59pm) in reply to Lord Supremo

    Initially, I don't think Iraq is ready for this. Ihope they are.
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 6:04pm) in reply to (oIo)

    My buddy just told me that he is getting deployed to Afghanistan in early 2012.

    Bad beat...
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 6:04pm) in reply to (oIo)

     
    Originally Posted by (oIo) View Post

    Initially, I don't think Iraq is ready for this. Ihope they are.

    who the fuck cares........hell ya Obama, bout damn time we got the fuck outta there.....wouldn't be surprised to see more of this go on b4 election, esp with even the Republicans talking about scaling down in their debates......its clear Americans want this
     
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 6:05pm) in reply to mordan

    sweet
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 6:17pm) in reply to Jaybone2315

    lol
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 6:17pm) in reply to The Alchemist

    The reason for the complete pullout of the troops has very little to do with Obama. It is 95% tied to the fact that the Iraqi Government will not sign the new SOFA. The current SOFA expires on 31 Dec, so we need to be out by then. There is no way for the US military to conduct operations without a SOFA signed by the Iraqi's in place.
    Edited By: wantagolf Oct 21st, 2011 at 06:18 PM
     
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 6:21pm) in reply to wantagolf

     
    Originally Posted by wantagolf View Post

    The reason for the complete pullout of the troops has very little to do with Obama. It is 95% tied to the fact that the Iraqi Government will not sign the new SOFA. The current SOFA expires on 31 Dec, so we need to be out by then. There is no way for the US military to conduct operations without a SOFA signed by the Iraqi's in place.


    bullshit. the iraqi people have been freed and now our mission is accomplished. once we've freed: afghanistan, pakistan, iran, yemen, lybia, iran, north korea, china, cuba and some other people, then we can bring the troops home.

    thank you obama! way to earn that nobel prize.
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 6:23pm) in reply to wantagolf

     
    Originally Posted by wantagolf View Post

    The reason for the complete pullout of the troops has very little to do with Obama. It is 95% tied to the fact that the Iraqi Government will not sign the new SOFA. The current SOFA expires on 31 Dec, so we need to be out by then. There is no way for the US military to conduct operations without a SOFA signed by the Iraqi's in place.

    True. The Obama administration was lobbying the Iraqis to let us stay. Hard to say this is something Obama "accomplished" when it only happens because we are effectively being kicked out.
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 6:41pm) in reply to The Alchemist

     
    Originally Posted by The Alchemist View Post

    bullshit. the iraqi people have been freed and now our mission is accomplished. once we've freed: afghanistan, pakistan, iran, yemen, lybia, iran, north korea, china, cuba and some other people, then we can bring the troops home.

    thank you obama! way to earn that nobel prize.


    hahaha, def not Bullshit.
     
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 6:47pm) in reply to Dyzalot

     
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    True. The Obama administration was lobbying the Iraqis to let us stay. Hard to say this is something Obama "accomplished" when it only happens because we are effectively being kicked out.

    well you mean the remaining what was it 10% or something ( can't rem, think it was like 3500 troops or something small like that ) that were not going to be drawn back were kicked out.....he already had an extensive drawback plan in place from what I read/understood.
    Edited By: mordan Oct 21st, 2011 at 06:51 PM
     
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 6:51pm) in reply to wantagolf

     
    Originally Posted by wantagolf View Post

    hahaha, def not Bullshit.


    well if it's not bullshit then the media must be trying to deceive me. makes no sense why they would do something like that tho. sorry wanta, <3 and all but clearly you're full of it on this one.
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 6:52pm) in reply to The Alchemist

    Throughout the discussions, Iraqi leaders have adamantly refused to give U.S. troops immunity from prosecution in Iraqi courts, and the Americans have refused to stay without it. Iraq's leadership has been split on whether it wanted American forces to stay. Some argued the further training and U.S. help was vital, particularly to protect Iraq's airspace and gather security intelligence. But others have deeply opposed any American troop presence, including Shiite militiamen who have threatened attacks on any American forces who remain.

    Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has told U.S. military officials that he does not have the votes in parliament to provide immunity to the American trainers, the U.S. military official said.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1012661.html
     
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 6:55pm) in reply to mordan

     
    Originally Posted by mordan View Post

    who the fuck cares........hell ya Obama, bout damn time we got the fuck outta there.....wouldn't be surprised to see more of this go on b4 election, esp with even the Republicans talking about scaling down in their debates......its clear Americans want this

    I fucking care. I spent a year there. I don't want all the work we did to go to hell in a handbasket when we leave.
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 6:59pm) in reply to (oIo)

     
    Originally Posted by (oIo) View Post

    I fucking care. I spent a year there. I don't want all the work we did to go to hell in a handbasket when we leave.

    oh my fault, didn't realize it was personal to you......I understand that.....but in general I stick by "who the fuck cares" in regards to its about time we focus on taking care of ourselves.
    Edited By: mordan Oct 21st, 2011 at 07:00 PM
     
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 6:59pm) in reply to HK_MP5N

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 7:30pm) in reply to (oIo)

     
    Originally Posted by (oIo) View Post

    I fucking care. I spent a year there. I don't want all the work we did to go to hell in a handbasket when we leave.

    I'm sorry but I don't think foreign policy should be decided on the basis of what will make you feel like you accomplished something.
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 7:53pm) in reply to Dyzalot

    Grats obama on getting the troops kicked out of Iraq.

    Lol at how he's gonna spin this. Bush/Obama strategy in action stay until we wear out our welcome and get kicked out.
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 8:01pm) in reply to tekiller

    Bring em home, that war was soooooo ghey.
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 8:06pm) in reply to Dyzalot

     
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    Yay! Something I can cheer Obama for even if it is a bit late.


    this isnt Obamas doing ftr. George's boys negotiated this date along time ago
     
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 8:10pm) in reply to stackinsideways

    We'll be back within 5 years but let's pretend we won and go home!
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 8:37pm) in reply to HK_MP5N

    it was bushy's fault.

    Edited By: EyeKnows Oct 21st, 2011 at 08:37 PM
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 8:56pm) in reply to stackinsideways

     
    Originally Posted by stackinsideways View Post

    this isnt Obamas doing ftr. George's boys negotiated this date along time ago

    So?
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 9:07pm) in reply to HK_MP5N

    diplomatic failure by obama. let's hope iraq doesn't fall apart and turn into another afghanistan after we left them (in the 80's)
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 9:07pm) in reply to norcaljeff

    Lol announcement. How well he ever be called on this spin?
     
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 9:16pm) in reply to (oIo)

     
    Originally Posted by (oIo) View Post

    Initially, I don't think Iraq is ready for this. Ihope they are.

    This. I really want all of our troops to come home but if we just have to go back in a year whats the point. I really hope this works out.
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 9:20pm) in reply to R_U_Nuts

     
    Originally Posted by R_U_Nuts View Post

    This. I really want all of our troops to come home but if we just have to go back in a year whats the point. I really hope this works out.

    Only reason to go back is if they launched an invasion force to conquer the US.
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    Oct 21st, 2011 (10/21/2011 9:23pm) in reply to Dyzalot

     
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    Only reason to go back is if they launched an invasion force to conquer the US.

    is this why we went? I forget...
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