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  1. I was one of the biggest Skylar haters around but this season I thought she has been phenomenal. I actually truly feel bad for her character and I thought her attempting to take a stand against Walt was played out so brilliantly and was one of the most eerie moments of the show. I didn't pick up any obvious foreshadowing that showed a way for her to kill herself, but I was just waiting to hear a single gunshot at any moment in the last 10 minutes.

    Also want to credit Andy Greenwald for pointing out the Reverse-Venus scene with the pool, didn't know much about Greek Mythology but I thought that was played out really well after reading up on it.

    Andy Greenwald has some of my favorite insight on the show.
    http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollyw...de-4-fifty-one
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    Originally Posted by Admiral View Post

    Also want to credit Andy Greenwald for pointing out the Reverse-Venus scene with the pool, didn't know much about Greek Mythology but I thought that was played out really well after reading up on it.

    I used the link, there was nothing about this. and I searched reverse-venus and got nothing, no plattsburgh here, can ya help a nigga out?

    there was another mythology thing in this episode I noted but I can't remember now. and walt bleeding was "walt is human/not invincible" (like neo in the matrix, and many others). and the ending scene of the previous episode, the icarus reference. I'll have to re-watch (again) to pick up the other thing I guess.
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    Originally Posted by NUTZREALHUGE View Post

    skyler may well be the definition of the word cunt. she is absolutely the worst ever. she wanted to get involved, get all gangster and now is gonna fuck everything up. that thing with her wishing for walts cancer to come back, just wow.

    the cunting is coming.

    I'm guessing you missed the part where Walt brought the drug game into her family, brought danger to her children, violently told her that he is a dangerous person, have Walt confess to planning (and committing) a homicide, and Walt causing severe harm to Beneke (sp? her lover).

    The bitch is well within her rights of killing Walt imho.

    Either way, these two should not co-exist. One has to kill the other soon.
    Edited By: Randers Aug 6th, 2012 at 07:29 PM
     
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    Originally Posted by EyeKnows View Post

    I used the link, there was nothing about this. and I searched reverse-venus and got nothing, no plattsburgh here, can ya help a nigga out?

    there was another mythology thing in this episode I noted but I can't remember now. and walt bleeding was "walt is human/not invincible" (like neo in the matrix, and many others). and the ending scene of the previous episode, the icarus reference. I'll have to re-watch (again) to pick up the other thing I guess.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bir...8Botticelli%29

    It is just how Venus was born out of the water and Skyler basically used the water as her grave. She came to the realization that everything about her former self is dead.
    Edited By: Admiral Aug 6th, 2012 at 07:39 PM
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    Originally Posted by Randers View Post

    I'm guessing you missed the part where Walt brought the drug game into her family, brought danger to her children, violently told her that he is a dangerous person, have Walt confess to planning (and committing) a homicide, and Walt causing severe harm to Beneke (sp? her lover).

    The bitch is well within her rights of killing Walt imho.

    Either way, these two should not co-exist. One has to kill the other soon.

    I think Skyler takes her own life, she has nothing anymore. Obviously, I wouldn't even consider the pool scene any sort of foreshadowing to that and I don't even consider it an attempted suicide.

    It's either she takes her own life or she finds the Ricin like someone said earlier and she thinks its Meth or something and takes it. This will further enrage Walt as he finds someway to blame something or someone else besides himself and keep playing off the line of thinking that he isn't the cause for any of the negative side effects of his actions. Walt has clearly shown he won't spare anything/anyone trying to get in his way but I just don't see her dying at his hand.
    Edited By: Admiral Aug 6th, 2012 at 07:46 PM
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    Originally Posted by Randers View Post

    I'm guessing you missed the part where Walt brought the drug game into her family, brought danger to her children, violently told her that he is a dangerous person, have Walt confess to planning (and committing) a homicide, and Walt causing severe harm to Beneke (sp? her lover).

    The bitch is well within her rights of killing Walt imho.

    Either way, these two should not co-exist. One has to kill the other soon.

    walt was involved in the ted thing? pretty sure that was skylar and saul's doings.

     
    Originally Posted by Admiral View Post

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bir...8Botticelli%29

    It is just how Venus was born out of the water and Skyler basically used the water as her grave. She came to the realization that everything about her former self is dead.

    yeah, I figured it out after I posted, sorry.

    totally a plattsburg.
  7. From Skylar's POV, it seems as if Walt had a hand in his (Ted's) injuries.

    Admiral, Skylar made it perfectly clear that her goal is to protect her children. She baptized herself of the Walter bullshit/business, and she has clearly defined her intentions. Afaict, she wants Walt dead/arrested/gone more than she wants to end her own life.
    Edited By: Randers Aug 6th, 2012 at 07:46 PM
     
  8. I can definitely see that side and what she made perfectly clear in that bedroom conversation but on the other hand she also made it clear that she really has no idea what she's doing and I think that may end up taking it's toll onexecuting whatever plan she had originally formed going into that bedroom scene. The more I think about that bedroom scene the less likely it is that she kills herself and I think it makes the Ricin a front runner to accidently take her out.

    There has never been a show where my interpretation of a scene or episode can change this drastically based on one line or sequence that someone has mentioned that I had forgotten when trying to form my own opinion.

    I'm changing my favorites for Skyler's demise from 1. Suicide 2. Ricin 3. Walt to 1. Ricin 2. Walt 104. Suicide.
    Edited By: Admiral Aug 6th, 2012 at 07:55 PM
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    Originally Posted by MeJahAndOmaha View Post

    If/when skylar finally pushes walt to the point of killing her, it will mark the final stage in walt's progression as a character and will be the point when things quickly start to unravel.

    -250 walt with ricin
    -100 suicide
    +200 mike does what he has to do
    +350 walt shoots or strangles her
    +500 the show ends without her dying

    The scene where Marie comes out and tells Walt about Skylar's idea for the kids, it seemed as if Walt sighs as he resigns himself to being without Skylar (could be construed as he knows what he has to do).
     
  10. BTW, I'm not convinced that the Ricin will be a player in the rest of the show. I think it more symbolizes how Walter has poisoned his relationship with his wife.

    It's also interesting to note that there is substantial research in the way of Ricin as a treatment for cancer, with many aspects of this show needing treatment for carcinogens.
    Edited By: Randers Aug 6th, 2012 at 08:10 PM
     
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    Originally Posted by Randers View Post

    From Skylar's POV, it seems as if Walt had a hand in his (Ted's) injuries.

    how so? she was the one that cooked the books for beneke, stole walt's money and conspired with saul to "fix" the problem (twice).

    htf can she blame walt for the beneke outcome? woman logic?
    Edited By: EyeKnows Aug 6th, 2012 at 08:14 PM
  12. Paralyzing the dude continues the 'Walt is a crazy mufugga' narrative in her mind iwhtt.
     
  13. I'm thinking an outsider takes out Skylar/Jesse/Mike and maybe the kids, with the final scene of the series of course being his "say hello to my little friend" moment, here's my reasoning for now, correct me if I'm wrong on any of this:

    1) In the opening scene of the season he wasn't wearing his wedding ring, I don't think he ever took it off before, even when they were separated and he was living in his own place, so that just makes me feel like she's dead and he took it off because it made him feel like shit every time he looked at it.

    2) I'm thinking that's the thing that pushes him off his powerful heisenberg perch he's on right now, seeing her/jesse dead, knowing he's the reason, shows him he isn't who he thinks he is. Again with the opening scene he just looks so damn defeated, resigned to his fate, just ready to die nothing to live for.

    3) At first I thought Jr and the baby would be killed somehow, but I kind of think maybe he took them to Rhode Island to hide out before he comes back to take care of business one last time, but then again having all the Rhode Island stuff (ID and car tags) that would kind of defeat the purpose of being secretive about their location so I'm probably wrong about that.

    edit: Unrelated, like someone said before I liked the watch acting like a ticking time bomb with his age at the end, second hand started on 50, ticked to 51, then ticked to 52 and goes black.
    Edited By: mackieinva Aug 6th, 2012 at 08:34 PM
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    Originally Posted by Randers View Post

    Paralyzing the dude continues the 'Walt is a crazy mufugga' narrative in her mind iwhtt.

    are you saying walt instructed saul to send his goons to beneke to make him follow through on sending that money to the IRS? that was all skylar and saul I thought.

    I don't get what you are saying sir.
  15. Simply, I'm assuming Skylar ASSUMES that Walt hurt Ted because of the money, her fucking Ted, etc whatever.

    This assumption on her part would continue her internal narrative that Walt is OOC/dangerous.
     
  16. ok, gotcha sir, you're saying she doesn't know the details of ted's injury and thinks walt "ordered" the hurt on ted.

    but I think she knows she is totally responsible. she is freaking on not just the ted thing but on the situation as a whole - she just wants it all to go away. and it = walt for the most part.

    and cancer getting walt is her only real plan now. I think she'll try something else though. we'll see.
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    Originally Posted by Randers View Post

    I'm guessing you missed the part where Walt brought the drug game into her family, brought danger to her children, violently told her that he is a dangerous person, have Walt confess to planning (and committing) a homicide, and Walt causing severe harm to Beneke (sp? her lover).

    The bitch is well within her rights of killing Walt imho.

    Either way, these two should not co-exist. One has to kill the other soon.

    i dunno, my take on the series is that she WANTED to take an active role in the money laundering and covering up the source of the money. i thought the benekey thing was skylers game plan, that only had to be cooked up because of her actions in the past (banging the dude, cooking his books etc).

    i think whats happening now is that she didnt realize what she was gettign herself into. she thought getting benekey to pay his taxes would be easy, and now the dude is in the hospital fucked up. Walter has killed people, and she is now aware of that. she cant deal with the reality of the choice she made and is now imploding, shown by her breakdown, the pool thing and her general demeanor in season 5.

    i predict that she will kill herself, but not before fucking everything up for walt. i think she is going to confess to marie what has been going on. that will be the final episode before the break...walt will be running in part 2 of season 5.
  18. It wouldn't surprise me if Walt kills Skylar and makes it look like suicide. I highly doubt that she just kills herself.
  19. could see that, and he has hank and marie pretty much on his side for the situation so it could be presumed they would believe him
  20. Walt can't kill Skylar now. Law enforcement (Hank) is aware of motive (infidelity). If he wants to make it look like suicide, he is going to need a pretty strong alibi (even after the pool situation, imo).
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    Originally Posted by El Burro View Post

    Walt can't kill Skylar now. Law enforcement (Hank) is aware of motive (infidelity). If he wants to make it look like suicide, he is going to need a pretty strong alibi (even after the pool situation, imo).

    well ricin makes it look like natural causes, and that stuff doesnt just keep showing up for no reason. He didnt put it behind the outlet to later throw it out he would have insta tossed it like jesse thinks he did.
  22. I'm surprised a lot of people here feel like Skylar is going down first. I felt like she's going to bring down Walt in the near future because of his recklessness.
  23. this season gets my dick hard but I gotta say, what in the world is going on with Jesse and his support of Lydia? We really supposed to believe he fights for some womans life he met for 5 mins? also, Im over the hate of Skyler. She might not be the most likable actress but come on what the hell is she supposed to do living with the full blown psychotic Walt? I think her reaction to Walt is genuinely written.
    Edited By: SyphonSoul Aug 6th, 2012 at 11:08 PM
     
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    Originally Posted by SyphonSoul View Post

    this season gets my dick hard but I gotta say, what in the world is going on with Jesse and his support of Lydia? We really supposed to believe he fights for some womans life he met for 5 mins? also, Im over the hate of Skyler. She might not be the most likable actress but come on what the hell is she supposed to do living with the full blown psychotic Walt? I think her reaction to Walt is genuinely written.

    she should be blowing him left and right saying thank you and is there anything else i can do for you.

    and how did she get this role she is the ugliest worst actress ive ever seen in such an important character. I mean shes the best..... I guess it makes sense where jr got most of his genes from
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    Originally Posted by Bawsten View Post

    she should be blowing him left and right saying thank you and is there anything else i can do for you.

    and how did she get this role she is the ugliest worst actress ive ever seen in such an important character. I mean shes the best..... I guess it makes sense where jr got most of his genes from

    She should be blowing him left and right? please explain how a do right middle class mother of 2 from the burbs is going to embrace her once harmless teacher husband turned power hungry murdering meth manufacturing sociopath? she was a good wife till he went to the dark side and violated all her trust in him. she not much of a looker but id hit her in season 1 no problem. she needs to look like a homely housewife to make sense of the story. worst actress? she only earned an emmy nom and likely win with last nights episode. she was A+ awesome so was the episode.
     
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    Originally Posted by SyphonSoul View Post

    this season gets my dick hard but I gotta say, what in the world is going on with Jesse and his support of Lydia? We really supposed to believe he fights for some womans life he met for 5 mins?

    he had an interaction with her and thinks she was genuine in her reaction to the gps device. jesse thinks/hopes they are still going to get methylamine from this source.

    and mike's assertion that the gps devices are ok to get wet - methylamine ain't water and mike ain't a chemist. too bad walt didn't comment about that since he is a chemist.

    but since we had a preview of the next episode ***PREVIEW SPOILER ALERT*** it's clear the tags are dea tags or they'd just kill lydia and take all the methylamine they can haul from that warehouse. and she provided the plan/knowledge for them getting methylamine (steal the huge amount). which also indicates they think they can't take any of the dea-tagged methylamine.

    or she is really good and this is her plan to step away from any exposure she is currently having to bear. ima guess they are going to check the other barrels and they are all tagged by the dea.
    Edited By: EyeKnows Aug 7th, 2012 at 12:10 AM
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    Originally Posted by Bawsten View Post

    she should be blowing him left and right saying thank you and is there anything else i can do for you.

    and how did she get this role she is the ugliest worst actress ive ever seen in such an important character. I mean shes the best..... I guess it makes sense where jr got most of his genes from

    Bad actress? Should be kissing his ass? Wtf is wrong with you? Oh yeah, go from a teacher to a homicidal mastermind drug lord who puts his family in danger on several occasions. DEFINITELY something to be happy about and "blow him left and right" over. Dumbass.
     








  28. Had to share the lulz, laughed hysterically for about 30 minutes. Out of my system now, enjoy.