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Edited By: TheAlbatross Aug 27th, 2012 at 08:48 AMmeant unnecessary in the sense that he could have just asked lydia for the list of names. but idk that mike is the same as the train engineers or even the kid. i think that mike meant leave no witnesses in regards to the robbery specifically rather than as a blanket, all inclusive statement. after all, that wasn't what mike practiced and if it's what walt's gonna do, he has about 500 ppl to killOriginally Posted by Hughes4
killing mike isnt unnecessary lol. no fucking witnesses.
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True, but he knows that Walt is crafty in a MacGyveresque way. Seems silly to not tie up both hands and to leave him next to an unlocked door and in the vicinity of lots of different objects. The worst part, though, is that he left Walt's keys on the table rather than taking them with him.Originally Posted by warden
he thought he was tying up walter white, not mcgyver
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lol. this isnt complicated. mike dead is safer than mike aliveOriginally Posted by TheAlbatross
meant unnecessary in the sense that he could have just asked lydia for the list of names. but idk that mike is the same as the train engineers or even the kid. i don't think that mike meant leave no witnesses in regards to the robbery specifically rather than as a blanket all inclusive statement. after all, that wasn't what mike practiced and if it's what walt's gonna do, he has about 500 ppl to kill
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yeah but characters sure do a lot of silly things on the "best tv show, movie or piece of art ever created" LOLOriginally Posted by TheAlbatross
True, but he knows that Walt is crafty in a MacGyveresque way. Seems silly to not tie up both hands and to leave him next to an unlocked door and in the vicinity of lots of different objects. The worst part, though, is that he left Walt's keys on the table rather than taking them with him.
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all I kept thinking was him leaving poor Kaylee at the park with those disgusting pigs :(
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walt should kill jesse, skylar, saul, todd, lydia, etc, etc, etc, and then finally himself, since, he too is a witness to what hes doneOriginally Posted by Hughes4
lol. this isnt complicated. mike dead is safer than mike alive
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what the fuck.
he's not friends with Mike at all. he's leaving his cooperative. he's leaving town. Mike is getting chased by DEA and has lost ALL of his money.
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Im just saying that, when saying "leave no witnesses," mike didn't mean for it be applied indiscriminately and universally. i think had mike handed over the list of names, walt might not have killed him. mostly, walt looked unsure of himself while doing it rather than like someone with confidence in his actions
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obv, but so are you
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Ign reviewer gave the episode a 9.0 instead of a 10.0 cause hes sad mike died. And he is getting epic shit for it in the comment section.
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Edited By: Nickc011 Aug 27th, 2012 at 06:13 PMYeah, as soon as he insisted on getting the bag I figured Mike was done. As soon as he opened the bag and saw the gun, it was pretty much over.Originally Posted by Admiral
As soon as Walt insisted on getting the bag to mike I turned to the room full of people who were watching the show and said "shit, he's going to kill mike". That episode might have been one the most intense things I've ever seen. As soon as it ended all 6 people were completely quiet and after a minute two people just got up and left without saying a word. I haven't seen sapranos or mad men but there is absolutely no way this isn't the greatest tv show/story/movie/anything of all time.
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can anyone tell me what song is playing during the cook scene? I searched a little but found nothing.
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I think its Goin Down by the Monkees
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wow, from their micky dolenz sings like a woman-scat-jazz period I guess.
Originally Posted by Admiral
I think its Goin Down by the Monkees
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The interesting thing about this season is Walt not being smart anymore,
-Jesse figures out how to destroy Gus's computer
-Jesse figures out how to make the cook gear fit in the roadie cases
-Jesse comes up with the train robbery solution
-Walt suddenly remembering that Lydia could give him the names(I laughed so hard) he is so distracted by being out of his element as a boss that he can't do what he was best at which is chemistry and critical thinking.
I think some analysis of Walt killing Mike is wrong, all those reason make sense that Mike is a liability at this point just like the 9 in prison, he has no value to the business anymore, and leave no witnesses/no half measure whatever. But in this scene Walt doesn't kill Mike like he planned to do it. He kills him after walking away then turning quickly in anger at Mike calling him on his Ego and does it in a rage. Walt was scared of Mike, he flinched when Mike took the bag from him. He never got Mikes respect and Mike never feared him as other have stated above.
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completely agree with everything...twice in this episode walt got furious at mike for not thanking him...i think walt has just lost all control and killed mike out of anger...he may have taken the gun out of the bag to kill mike, or so that mike couldnt kill him when he gave him the bag, well never know...walt started to walk away from mike but his anger got the best of him...another epic episode...the opening scene was so fucking baller
Originally Posted by littleze
The interesting thing about this season is Walt not being smart anymore,
-Jesse figures out how to destroy Gus's computer
-Jesse figures out how to make the cook gear fit in the roadie cases
-Jesse comes up with the train robbery solution
-Walt suddenly remembering that Lydia could give him the names(I laughed so hard) he is so distracted by being out of his element as a boss that he can't do what he was best at which is chemistry and critical thinking.
I think some analysis of Walt killing Mike is wrong, all those reason make sense that Mike is a liability at this point just like the 9 in prison, he has no value to the business anymore, and leave no witnesses/no half measure whatever. But in this scene Walt doesn't kill Mike like he planned to do it. He kills him after walking away then turning quickly in anger at Mike calling him on his Ego and does it in a rage. Walt was scared of Mike, he flinched when Mike took the bag from him. He never got Mikes respect and Mike never feared him as other have stated above.
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yeah, I didn't think killing mike was business at all. walt was visibly scared when mike walked up to take his bag and flinched when he took it. killing mike was personal.
Edited By: EyeKnows Aug 27th, 2012 at 07:10 PM
anyone have any idea about the song?
JFC, it is a Monkees tune, no idea at all and I am shocked.
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Guys, I think something is going to go horribly, horribly wrong for Walt
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also Walt doesnt appreciate the bond between Mike and Jesse. Walt always had a chip on his shoulder when it comes to those two being friendly. The creepy stare from the window Walt gave Mike and Jesses handshake says it all. Also, Walt blames Mike for being in Jesses ear about quitting the biz. Im gonna miss Mike. Im not turning my back on Walt tho. I just love the show. I wanna see Walt win!!
Originally Posted by EyeKnows
yeah, I didn't think killing mike was business at all. walt was visibly scared when mike walked up to take his bag and flinched when he took it. killing mike was personal.
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Walt foreshadowed it in the earlier episode when he was talking about Victor too, he knew he might have to kill Mike but was scared to do it.
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Good pull.
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I think Jesse is the next to go... maybe as soon as the next episode.
Mike had to go. He was the 'pro' - kept things in check for Walt. Nobody to manage Walt now - look for a wild ride -
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How did Mike manage to get away from the cops when he was at the park? Did I miss something?
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Originally Posted by krs33
How did Mike manage to get away from the cops when he was at the park? Did I miss something?
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I think Jesse is going to be the one to put an end to Walter, so I would be completely shocked if he went next episode. I think the gigantic cliff hanger that will tie us over until next season is that Hank is going to put 2 and 2 together in the last seconds of this season.
Originally Posted by tieful
I think Jesse is the next to go... maybe as soon as the next episode.
Mike had to go. He was the 'pro' - kept things in check for Walt. Nobody to manage Walt now - look for a wild ride -
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Originally Posted by voorh33s
they never ID'd him, I'm sure they were sent there to look for "an old guy". I'm thinking he quickly slinked away, I mean he is a pro isnt he?
Yeah, I'm assuming he just walked. When he was sitting behind the tree he didn't seem concerned about escape, it was more him coming to the realization that he was going to have to leave his granddaughter - and that he may never see her again.
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