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  1. Hey there Dyz - how's it been going?
  2. Updated delegate count. Ron Paul is closer than the establishment would like you to think.

    http://thereal2012delegatecount.com/
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  3. Sorry for my ignorance but what happens to Santorum and Gingrich's delegates?


    Also Ron Paul for tha win!
  4.  
    Originally Posted by acecatcher26 View Post

    Sorry for my ignorance but what happens to Santorum and Gingrich's delegates?

    Also Ron Paul for tha win!

    What happens to the delegates if a candidate drops out?

    by admin on Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:01 pm
    Many people have asked these question and the answers are ver simple.

    "What happens to the delegates of a candidate that drops out of the race"

    Any candidate that drops out prior to the convention automatically unbinds their delegates. This means regardless of party rule those delegates are free to vote for whom they wish.

    "What if the candidate that drops out endorses another candidate"

    Even if a candidate endorses another candidate it in no way binds their delegates to their endorsement, those delegates are still free to vote for whom they wish.
  5. http://news.yahoo.com/obama-jokes-cl...050818816.html

    How does that work, I thought max you could contribute was $2.5k during the primary and another $2.5k during general?

    Why is it that RP is playing by the rules more than Romney yet every word used has negative connotation. Why was nothing said in North Dakota or the Virgin Islands when Romney received more delegates that would be expected?

    Watching Good Morning America and they played a clip of Romney's response to the bullying claim and he's basically laughing through his response, ya, if I hurt someone I'd probably apologize . . . you can just tell the guy a rich dickhead
     
  6. Pretty cool representation of Ron Paul on SNL

    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...7214?auto=true
  7.  
    Originally Posted by gamma21 View Post

    How would it be a hijacking? Following the rules put in place by the establishment is underhanded and sneaky?

     
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    Hijack by using their own rules against them?

     
    Originally Posted by LVpokerdealer View Post

    If rule 38 holds to be true....then basically all of the RP delegates chosen that we thought had to vote for Romney on the first ballot basically can now vote for RP....and also there were a lot of santorum/newt/romney delegates chosen that were actually RP supporters.....

    Does this mean he has more than Romney? Probably not. But it sure is exciting as a RP supporter.

    mostly to dyz/gamma: yes, hijacking the will of the people. who chose romney. I couldn't imagine voting for someone who tried to steal the nomination
  8. Wong. The Romney supporters are just to stupid to figure it out.
  9.  
    Originally Posted by norcaljeff View Post

    mostly to dyz/gamma: yes, hijacking the will of the people. who chose romney. I couldn't imagine voting for someone who tried to steal the nomination

    And you still don't understand the difference between a Republic and a Democracy.
     
  10. you would be ok with it if rp won the vast majority of votes but then romney's team got the delegates and nominated romney? lol

    the reason for delegates to have discretion is if the presumptive nominee got caught with kiddy porn and shit, not to just decide everyone else is wrong
  11.  
    Originally Posted by norcaljeff View Post

    you would be ok with it if rp won the vast majority of votes but then romney's team got the delegates and nominated romney? lol

    the reason for delegates to have discretion is if the presumptive nominee got caught with kiddy porn and shit, not to just decide everyone else is wrong

    And you still don't understand the difference between a Republic and a Democracy.
     
  12. "I couldn't imagine voting for someone who tried to steal the nomination.." -norcaljeff

  13. lol NCJ...why couldn't you imagine voting for RP? You've already wanted to vote for like 5 diff candidates already...what's the big deal with changing your mind once more?

    Ohhh and latest rassmussen poll with independents has RP tied with Obama
  14.  
    Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16 View Post

    Pretty cool representation of Ron Paul on SNL

    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...7214?auto=true

    they have had him in other skits before, wonder why he wasnt in that one.
  15. "If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is."

    -Ronald Reagan

    Damn you, Ronald Reagan. Why do you hate the Republican party so much?

     
    Originally Posted by playwithfire05 View Post

    they have had him in other skits before, wonder why he wasnt in that one.

    Maybe they don't want to lump him in with the rest of the ass clowns.
     
  16.  
    Originally Posted by playwithfire05 View Post

    they have had him in other skits before, wonder why he wasnt in that one.

    The cast member who played him (Paul Brittain) previously is no longer on the show
    Edited By: SerlinSteak19 May 11th, 2012 at 09:38 PM
  17.  
    Originally Posted by SerlinSteak19 View Post

    The cast member who played him (Paul Brittain) previously is no longer on the show

    They still could have had someone else play him. SNL.. you just lost a point in my book. Now show me kristin wiig on top of tina fey and we'll call it even.
  18.  
    Originally Posted by gamma21 View Post

    And you still don't understand the difference between a Republic and a Democracy.

    think so? lol?

     
    Originally Posted by Geoff Moore View Post

    "I couldn't imagine voting for someone who tried to steal the nomination.." -norcaljeff

    makes sense, because...wait, what?

     
    Originally Posted by LVpokerdealer View Post

    lol NCJ...why couldn't you imagine voting for RP? You've already wanted to vote for like 5 diff candidates already...what's the big deal with changing your mind once more?

    Ohhh and latest rassmussen poll with independents has RP tied with Obama

    because he isn't and shouldn't be the nominee, as he was not picked (and because he has the foreign policy of a retarded child, but that's completely irrelevant).

    which candidates did I "want" to vote for again? Do you even remember...ehhh forget it.
  19.  
    Originally Posted by norcaljeff View Post

    because he isn't and shouldn't be the nominee, as he was not picked (and because he has the foreign policy of a retarded child, but that's completely irrelevant).

    war on terror 4 life dawg
  20. Ncj, why do you hate Thomas Jefferson?
     
  21. I just hate his refusal to use drones. and his refusal to wiretap terrorists on the other side of the planet. seems old-fashioned. like he was living in the 1700's or something.



    ps so you would be happy if romney delegates picked romney if rp had the majority of votes?

    @ krispy: we shouldn't have the war on terror. we should have...um...surrender? hope they'll leave us alone? stop being so mean to people so the terrorists forgive all our mean deeds? you tell me
    Edited By: norcaljeff May 11th, 2012 at 11:47 PM
  22.  
    Originally Posted by norcaljeff View Post

    because he isn't and shouldn't be the nominee, as he was not picked (and because he has the foreign policy of a retarded child, but that's completely irrelevant).

    which candidates did I "want" to vote for again? Do you even remember...ehhh forget it.

    Delegates pick the nominee, not straw polls.
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  23.  
    Originally Posted by norcaljeff View Post

    I just hate his refusal to use drones. and his refusal to wiretap terrorists on the other side of the planet. seems old-fashioned. like he was living in the 1700's or something.



    ps so you would be happy if romney delegates picked romney if rp had the majority of votes?

    @ krispy: we shouldn't have the war on terror. we should have...um...surrender? hope they'll leave us alone? stop being so mean to people so the terrorists forgive all our mean deeds? you tell me

    I would be happy if Romney was using the rules established by his own party, and utilizing the process the founders envisioned. The thing that really bothers me about your thinking ncj, is that you somehow think RP isn't a Republican just because he doesn't adhere to the NeoCon way of thinking. Ron Paul is simply running on the platform that resembles what the GOP used to stand for. It's fine if you disagree with him, but it's ridiculous to act like there should only be one way of thinking in the Republican Party. I wonder why you don't take issue with following a philosophy that was established by ex-Dems? I wonder if you would have thought a great man like Dwight Eisenhower would have been a nut for telling the American people to watch out for the military industrial complex? Poor ncj, following an ideology that wanted the Vietnam War to continue, despite the "will of the people."
     
  24.  
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    Delegates pick the nominee, not straw polls.

    yup. so you think it is fine if the vast majority of repub voters pick romney but the delegates stage a coup - I mean, exercise their rights - to vote for someone else? (barring some giant scandal obv)

     
    Originally Posted by gamma21 View Post

    I would be happy if Romney was using the rules established by his own party, and utilizing the process the founders envisioned. The thing that really bothers me about your thinking ncj, is that you somehow think RP isn't a Republican just because he doesn't adhere to the NeoCon way of thinking. Ron Paul is simply running on the platform that resembles what the GOP used to stand for. It's fine if you disagree with him, but it's ridiculous to act like there should only be one way of thinking in the Republican Party. I wonder why you don't take issue with following a philosophy that was established by ex-Dems? I wonder if you would have thought a great man like Dwight Eisenhower would have been a nut for telling the American people to watch out for the military industrial complex? Poor ncj, following an ideology that wanted the Vietnam War to continue, despite the "will of the people."

    rp isn't a repub? tf?

    one way of thinking? is someone stopping rp from thinking some way? he's free to have idiotic head-in-sand make-believe-world ideas. I'm just glad he can't execute them. like I am sad he can't execute his good ideas. Why is it you think there is no room for ideas other than rp's foreign policy ideas?
  25.  
    Originally Posted by norcaljeff View Post

    @ krispy: we shouldn't have the war on terror. we should have...um...surrender? hope they'll leave us alone? stop being so mean to people so the terrorists forgive all our mean deeds? you tell me

    Stopping the "war on terror" isn't surrendering. Who is it we would even be surrendering to? If we stop the war on drugs, are we surrendering to drug dealers?

    Even if you think we should always be at war in a philosophical sense, because you believe the baddies are always out to get us, we still can't afford it.. don't really see anyone defending the price of all this shit
  26. not really sure what "stopping the war on terror" means. Can you explain it?

    can't afford what? two invasions of countries? is someone advocating that we do that?
  27. Romney 'voters' have every right to participate in the delegate process as well . . . for some reason they aren't or just not in the same number as Paul supporters . . .

    Norcal - what is it about Romney that you like so much?
     
  28. Imposing our will and war is always the answer. Forget that its bankrupting us and most of these countries we are bombing have very few means (if any) to do damage to our country.
     
  29. If we didnt use delegates and instead used popular vote wouldnt Gore have been president instead of Bush?
  30. Don't see the issue with a fringe group yelling the loudest and being the most active getting the nomination over the will of the people...

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