[TMLMS13]

 

Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16

People make their own luck.

pun intended?

[jtown1010]

I remember debating Eli/Rape/Rivers for hours a few years ago.

I was spite going with Eli because I hated the Rape rings, and Rivers bulk stats arguments.

Moral of the story, go with spite you might be right (RIP Johnny Cochran).

[FenwayKing The Well: FenwayKing]

hahahahahaha

WELP

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/...iots-receivers

highlight:

"My husband can not f------ throw the ball and catch the ball at the same time. I can't believe they dropped the ball so many times," Bundchen said in a video captured by theinsider.com, a gossip website. Edited By: FenwayKing Feb 6th, 2012 at 05:28 PM

[curiousgeorge baby duck hat]

so true though, they would win all the super bowls if they had all bradys.

[itch1515]

"Uh,honey, Coach Belicheck says you have to come to a meeting at his office."

[Lameass_]

it was a good game

the reason im pissed the giants won is now we have to listen to the retarded knee jerk sports "analysts" talk about how eli is better than peyton.

yea, almost. eli isnt a HOF at this point. be consistent for 4-6 more years and ill change my mind

[dolphin13 OT Vice MVP]

 

Originally Posted by Lameass_

it was a good game

the reason im pissed the giants won is now we have to listen to the retarded knee jerk sports "analysts" talk about how eli is better than peyton.

yea, almost. eli isnt a HOF at this point. be consistent for 4-6 more years and ill change my mind

Who has more touchdowns thanthe other but less interceptions, HOFer Troy Aikman or Eli Manning

[snaggs]

 

Originally Posted by dolphin13

Who has more touchdowns thanthe other but less interceptions, HOFer Troy Aikman or Eli Manning

[ajedrez]

 

Originally Posted by SteveSparks

Its laughable that u can call this a mediocre game. LOL. Brady sets a superbowl record with 16 str8 completions and the longest touchdown drive in superbowl history, Eli sets a superbowl record with 9 str8 completions to start the game, both defenses played outstanding, only 1 turnover in the game, Eli threw for 75% completion and brady 66%. The game came down to the last 4:00 with another all time superbowl drive by eli for a touchdown and the game came down to the last play with Brady having a chance to win.

Seattle/Pittsburgh was a mediocre superbowl. This was a great superbowl and u just stating it was mediocre and providing ZERO evidence to backup your statement seems like sour grapes to me.

As for the 2nd part of your statement, i think its pretty ABSURD to think that if Welker makes that catch the Pats guaranteed a WIN???? They still had another 3rd and 11 to make up for that play and even if he catches it, good chance Giants defense holds them to a field goal and Eli gets the ball with 2:00 left, no timeouts. Eli has shown he is the greatest clutch QB playing in the NFL right now and has a good chance to go down as one of the all time greats. He still leads them to a game winning Touchdown.

So much for your self imposed 30 day ban, and any credibility your word has (lol). Pathetic.

 

Originally Posted by SteveSparks

With Terrell Thomas, Goff, and Marvin Austin coming back from injury and them having the best QB in the NFL i truly predict the Giants to be just like Green Bay and go 14-2, 15-1,16-0, repeat champs, the possibilities are endless!

Just quoting this again to show what a classless, spineless POS SteveSparks is. Edited By: ajedrez Feb 6th, 2012 at 06:42 PM

[Dyzalot]

 

Originally Posted by dolphin13

Who has more touchdowns thanthe other but less interceptions, HOFer Troy Aikman or Eli Manning

It is dumb comparing QB's of today to QB's of twenty years ago. Who has the better stats for their first 16 starts, John Elway or Tim Tebow? Anyone going to claim that makes Tebow better? Who has the better career stats, Matt Hasselbeck or Terry Bradshaw? Who's the better QB?

[snaggs]

 

Originally Posted by Dyzalot

It is dumb comparing QB's of today to QB's of twenty years ago. Who has the better stats for their first 16 starts, John Elway or Tim Tebow? Anyone going to claim that makes Tebow better? Who has the better career stats, Matt Hasselbeck or Terry Bradshaw? Who's the better QB?

My brother and I were talking about this last night. Young fans today don't seem to realize that the passing game was unbelievably different than it is today as recently as the early 90's. The differences become even more profound as you work your way back through history. There was a time when quick slants, dump offs in the flat and screen passes didn't even exist and the passing game was almost exclusively 10+ yards in the air attempts. A good QB completed 50% of his passes. That's why guys like Otto Graham and Johnny Unitas are so ridiculous. Their stats almost stand up to a more modern standard while playing a completely different game.

That being said Aikman is statistically underwhelming even for his era, not that that was the point of the post. For instance among his contemporaries Football reference equates him with Boomer Esiason, Steve McNair, Jim Kelly, Mark Brunell, and Jim Everett a list with exactly one HOF'er. No mention of Marino, Elway, Favre, Moon, Young the elite QB's of his generation. What gets both Aikman and Kelly into the HOF is super bowls. It always surprised me that Simms hadn't gotten in yet (though in 1990 he was hurt and Hostetler played the super bowl it was still Simms effort that got them there) and it's why I would be surprised if Eli doesn't get in even this early in his career. Edited By: snaggs Feb 6th, 2012 at 07:08 PM

[dolphin13 OT Vice MVP]

 

Originally Posted by Dyzalot

It is dumb comparing QB's of today to QB's of twenty years ago. Who has the better stats for their first 16 starts, John Elway or Tim Tebow? Anyone going to claim that makes Tebow better? Who has the better career stats, Matt Hasselbeck or Terry Bradshaw? Who's the better QB?

First off we're talking about career stats not 16 games. The only time that Tebow Elway stat gets used is to show how poor of a start Elway got off to in his career, not to compare. Tebow has a .000001 chance of eclipsing Elways career.

And Terry Bradshaw is the QB you pick for the Hasselbeck comparison? Really. Not many people thinkBradshaw is anywhere near an all-time great. He benefitted from the team around him. Aikman played in an era where p,entry of QBs were flinging it around, Montana, Marino, Elway, Moon. Aikman had a HOF RB, HOF WR, HOF TE. Yet he didn't put up the stats Eli has. Eli btw does not have anywhere near the caliber of offense that Aikman has.

You also grossly overestimate how much more the NFL is a passing league than 20 years ago. If you look at the stats, it's not nearly as big a gap as you're trying to make it seem Edited By: dolphin13 Feb 6th, 2012 at 07:18 PM

[snaggs]

 

Originally Posted by dolphin13

You also grossly overestimate how much more the NFL is a passing league than 20 years ago. If you look at the stats, it's not nearly as big a gap as you're trying to make it seem

in 1991 exactly one TEAM threw for 4000 yards.

[Dyzalot]

Average QB rating has increased 10% from 1990 to 2011. That's pretty significant. YPG has increased close to 20% in that same time frame. Edited By: Dyzalot Feb 6th, 2012 at 07:27 PM

[kellykip The Chosen One]

If Miles Austin doesn't, by his own admission, lose a perfect throw by Romo in the lights, the Giants aren't even in the playoffs, and maybe today is the day the world is saying Romo finally proved it.

[MyJobisYou Banned Scammer]

 

Originally Posted by kellykip

If Miles Austin doesn't, by his own admission, lose a perfect throw by Romo in the lights, the Giants aren't even in the playoffs, and maybe today is the day the world is saying Romo finally proved it.

and if Desean Jackson doesn't catch lightning in a bottle against the Giants last season GreenBay doesn't even make the playoffs. Silly.

[kellykip The Chosen One]

 

Originally Posted by MyJobisYou

and if Desean Jackson doesn't catch lightning in a bottle against the Giants last season GreenBay doesn't even make the playoffs. Silly.

How is it silly to say the Giants were inches from missing the playoffs? People were talking about how close Welker was to making that catch.

[Nickc011 The Law]

 

Originally Posted by kellykip

If Miles Austin doesn't, by his own admission, lose a perfect throw by Romo in the lights, the Giants aren't even in the playoffs, and maybe today is the day the world is saying Romo finally proved it.

lool

[Numan]

 

Originally Posted by kellykip

If Miles Austin doesn't, by his own admission, lose a perfect throw by Romo in the lights, the Giants aren't even in the playoffs, and maybe today is the day the world is saying Romo finally proved it.

kelly gonna res

[Jaybone2315 Professional Couch Ruiner]

 

Originally Posted by kellykip

If Miles Austin doesn't, by his own admission, lose a perfect throw by Romo in the lights, the Giants aren't even in the playoffs, and maybe today is the day the world is saying Romo finally proved it.

Kyle Williams

#bitter49erfan

[MyJobisYou Banned Scammer]

It's silly because you can say that about teams every year in every sport and it doesn't mean anything because there's no way to determine what would have happened if they did or didn't make it or if this team had made it and happened to play this or that team. It's silly.

For those saying Welker's drop was huge, personally I think the 3 fumbles and not able to recover one was the biggest difference. The single one that was recovered was recovered with 12 guys on the field, and would have directly removed 7pts from the scoreboard, and the other two would have set Brady up in plus territory. Those are far more important than a dropped pass up by 2 with 3+ mins left in the game where your defense still has a chance to stop a team that has scored 6pts in the last 38 minutes.

and if the Cowboys didn't blow a 24-10 lead in the fourth quarter of week 1 against one of the worst QBs in the league they probably woulda made the playoffs too. Darn. Edited By: MyJobisYou Feb 6th, 2012 at 07:47 PM

[kellykip The Chosen One]

 

Originally Posted by Jaybone2315

Kyle Williams

#bitter49erfan

That's my point - you gotta run insanely good to win a SB, even if you are the best team, and the margins are pretty damn thin. The winners love to forget how razor thin their escape was.

Would be no different for GB, NO, NE, SF, whoever - I'm not taking anything away from the Giants at all.

[Cortz]

hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaan losers

[Oh Rale]

Lol @ Kelly, dude just stop.

[tamayo85]

[sinatra22]

The Patriots always give the Giants such tough games. They don't make it too easy for Eli. It's really cute.

[quietwinner]

between the fumbles called back or recovered, the mehish safety call, welker drop, manningham catch, giants ran incredibly good once again. pretty sure they have more lucky plays in their 2 superbowls than some teams do in a season.

that said, eli is pretty good and deserved mvp and his ring. grats. ppl i bet pm me your paypals, ill pm you later tonight if i dont hear from you

[Blackout4]

http://www.brobible.com/bronews/stor...-light-partied - GRONK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kidrockin cro magnon]

nice

[kanders10]

If Dal & Phi play up to their potential, Giants take 3rd next year in the division Edited By: kanders10 Feb 6th, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Reason: I suck at typing