okay I have a probably dumb idea but lets get together and solve the budget problems we have. If you post an idea in this thread be sure to specify if you are registered (R), (D) or (I). Also feel free to post any relevant stats or fact, ie USA debt estimated tax revenue ect. I will try and fact check anything someone states is a fact but feel free to site your source.

If someone like dyz could restart this thread it might be better since it would not surprise me if a ton of OT snap red x's any thread I start.
feel free to add any better ways to go about with this thread.

For the record I am a registered Republican

Fire Norv Turner.

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issue...store-america/

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fuck government

Legalize marijuana, Leagalize gambling of all kinds, leagalize prostitution, make churches and corporations pay taxes

bring home all troops from overseas..or at least most..like 90% would good..if we leave a base in germany or couple other places thats fine but no hostile actions

oh and the corporation tax stuff is only under the current system we have...if RP could get in and help fix our economic situation without corporations paying taxes i am all for it

and before someone slams me on churches paying taxes...FUCK CHURCHES

 

Originally Posted by cmval

Legalize marijuana, Leagalize gambling of all kinds, leagalize prostitution, make churches and corporations pay taxes

bring home all troops from overseas..or at least most..like 90% would good..if we leave a base in germany or couple other places thats fine but no hostile actions

oh and the corporation tax stuff is only under the current system we have...if RP could get in and help fix our economic situation without corporations paying taxes i am all for it

and before someone slams me on churches paying taxes...FUCK CHURCHES

I'm in agreement with all of these, although I would prioritize a few things that might prevent the lower-middle class from getting destroyed. I would also make government prescription drug coverage generic-only and encourage corporations to adopt similar offerings among their health care plans. I would try to revamp the qualifications for higher education to create a tiered system that targetted learning to professions, reduced the focus on 4-year degrees for positions that did not require them, and promote a more cafeteria approach to higher education, to reduce the waste generated by drop-outs. I would take 401k and allow people to move their contributions to IRAs as employers and Wall Street have far too much control over and direct access to my retirement savings.

[I]-democratic socialist.

Bring back estate tax (graduated increase up to 75%). Restructure capital gains to make tax rates equitable for investment earnings. Put the IRS to work finding corporate income that ends up in international tax shelters (not saying international companies have to pay US taxes on what they make abroad, but have to pay taxes on income earned in the US).

Reform campaign finance and legislate political contributions to decrease the defacto quid pro quo contributions. Institute state legislature referendum system similar to the Constitutional amendment process for declarations of war, Supreme Court appointments, passage of a budget that exceeds revenue, impeachments, ...

I think a smallish raise on capital gains tax is only okay you can write off more than 1 years loss. 2-4 years sounds good.

 

Originally Posted by Dyzalot

Capital gains tax is a joke since it isn't indexed to inflation. If I pay 100K for something in 1980 and sell it for 150K in 2010 I have to pay tax on the 50K even though inflation eliminated any real gain in wealth.

Agree that this is a problem that should be remedied. The tax should be fair, both ways. I agree that losses should also be deductible for several years, for investors to recoup their losses and offset a hit taken because of variance among their investments.

 

Originally Posted by ntanygd760

would taxing dividends at a higher rate help even that out.

Don't understand what you mean. And if we are going to have an income tax then all income should be taxed the same, including dividends.

 

Originally Posted by pistol45

yes, this. I'm OK with reducing the overall rates, but agree that there shouldn't be niche types of income that are exempt from taxation particularly when they favor one class of citizens so heavily over the middle.

That I agree with. I don't like taxes but I hate even more when a tax system favors certain incomes over others.

 

Originally Posted by ntanygd760

yet that came out all wrong I lost my train of thought

I think what I meant was have a small tax on stocks owned each year which would make the tax money you pay more equal to inflation I think.

I don't understand what you mean by "tax money you pay more equal to inflation"

Perhaps the Fed could continue to print money, tens of trillions a year, we could devalue the dollar to the point that the debt was negligible and everyone holding onto debt tied to our currency just loses everything. Eventually, we could issue those Zimbabwe $100 Biliion bills and pay off the debt to China.

 

Originally Posted by pistol45

Perhaps the Fed could continue to print money, tens of trillions a year, we could devalue the dollar to the point that the debt was negligible and everyone holding onto debt tied to our currency just loses everything. Eventually, we could issue those Zimbabwe $100 Biliion bills and pay off the debt to China.

i think thats um kinda the plan right now..........

remember the 7.7 trillion the fed gave to banks, that we know of.

we haven't fully audited the fed. we can only guess how much money has been printed by the fed and gifted away.

2% tax on cars over 100k