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  1. clemsonrich clemsonrich is offline

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    Dec 5th, 2011 (12/5/2011 6:53pm) in reply to satchmo

    What do you do when you see a space man?













    you park man.
     
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    Dec 5th, 2011 (12/5/2011 6:53pm) in reply to clemsonrich

    From Forbes 2009:

    "The Green Bay Packers net income fell 80% last year, to $4 million, due in large part to a $50 million decrease in the value of its investment portfolio. It is believed most of the team's investments are in stocks and real estate."

    http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/30/...rs_302814.html
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    Dec 5th, 2011 (12/5/2011 6:54pm) in reply to Gregrrr

     
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    What owners are getting rich?

     
    Originally Posted by runninbad View Post

    Just one example. Jerry Jones. Paid $150 million for the Cowboys and the stadium. Current value of the Cowboys is north of $1 billion. Granted, he was rich already, but that's a fairly good return.

     
    Originally Posted by DBo Fo Sho View Post

    New England Patriots are owned by Robert Kraft (Net Worth: $1.5 billion), who bought them in 1994 for $172 mil.

    this list by Forbes is pretty cool, lists the purchase price by the owner and current team value: http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/30/...ts_307338.html

    I was assuming Dyz meant that since there is not one singular owner of the team, he was refuting edt1988's stance, could be wrong tho.

     
    Originally Posted by Gregrrr View Post

    If you have to ask about the ROI for this buy, you just don't get. I have a few close friends who own Packer stock, and one with a Packer tat. I love the Pack. I get it. But I don't own stock. And sometimes I do feel like less of a fan when they joke about being "owners". It's a pride thing. Maybe if you walked once 5-6 blocks to Lambeau, with Packer legion, 45 min. before game time, you would understand.

    oh we don't get it, you are correct.

    My buddy has an eagles tat (lol so stupid) and a phillies world series tat, i guess he is a bigger fan. And Ive walked the mile to the westmont patco high speedline, got off at the el, and then got down to broadstreet and walked to an eagles tailgate, then traversed the block and a half into the stadium wtih about 65,000 loud eagles fans. Such a right of passage, almost to where I would want to give the orginazation even more money then I already do.
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    Dec 5th, 2011 (12/5/2011 7:00pm) in reply to runninbad

     
    Originally Posted by runninbad View Post

    From Forbes 2009:

    "The Green Bay Packers net income fell 80% last year, to $4 million, due in large part to a $50 million decrease in the value of its investment portfolio. It is believed most of the team's investments are in stocks and real estate."

    http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/30/...rs_302814.html

    Hmm, so this is why they need the stock sale. They lost $50 million. WTF? Aren't they supposed to be a non-profit. Sounds like a lot of risk to me for non-profit.
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    Dec 5th, 2011 (12/5/2011 7:09pm) in reply to Dyzalot

     
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    What owners are getting rich?

    Team owners of successful franchises usually don't make money on their investments. They invest the money expecting to turn a loss, so it's natural that their fans should bail them out when that occurs. Makes sense dyzalot
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    Dec 5th, 2011 (12/5/2011 7:16pm) in reply to edwardt1988

    lol professional sports
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    Dec 5th, 2011 (12/5/2011 8:14pm) in reply to Gregrrr

     
    Originally Posted by Gregrrr View Post

    If you have to ask about the ROI for this buy, you just don't get it. I have a few close friends who own Packer stock, and one with a Packer tat. I love the Pack. I get it. But I don't own stock. And sometimes I do feel like less of a fan when they joke about being "owners". It's a pride thing. Maybe if you walked once 5-6 blocks to Lambeau, with Packer legion, 45 min. before game time, you would understand.

    Well said. I'm a huge Packer fan as well but don't own any stock. I definitely get it though, if someone wants to fork over $250 for a piece of stock more power to them, it's a win-win for the fans and the organization.

    One of my friends recently had a child who was born during the 2nd half of the Packers-Vikings game. A family member sent a picture of my friend and his new born child, only minutes old, watching the end of the game to Packers President Mark Murphy. He received this in the mail about a week later:



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    "Andria and Chris, Congratulations on the birth of Braylon (BOO). I understand from Claudia Caraher that he's already a Packers fan. He's obviously a smart young man. I think a share of Packers stock would be the perfect Christmas gift for him. Congratulations again, Sincerely, Mark Murphy"

    How cool is that??
    Edited By: StringerBell Dec 5th, 2011 at 08:15 PM
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    Dec 5th, 2011 (12/5/2011 8:17pm) in reply to supra1988t

    Packers stock was designed as a means of keeping the packers in green bay a city of 100,000 this is why you can only own 200 shares. The origional stock sale not only ensured that the packers couldnt be bought and moved but that they would have the funds necessary to continue operating. People in wisconsin go crazy for da pack and i think its great that they are truly an extension of the community around here. Owning stock is largely symbolic and more akin to owning sports memorbilia than actual stock. Exceptionally cool that the smallest market in sports safe guarded themselves against douchebag billionaires from taking the greatest franchise in sports and moving it to LA just to make a dime.
     
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    Dec 5th, 2011 (12/5/2011 8:22pm) in reply to StringerBell

     
    Originally Posted by StringerBell View Post

    "Andria and Chris, Congratulations on the birth of Braylon (BOO). I understand from Claudia Caraher that he's already a Packers fan. He's obviously a smart young man. I think a share of Packers stock would be the perfect Christmas gift for him. Congratulations again, Sincerely, Mark Murphy"

    How cool is that??

    if Mark Murphy gave him, as a "Christmas gift" or a "Congratulations you just had a baby gift", the packers stock "worth" $250 then that'd be cool (coudln't tell since our second pic is a red x) otherwise it sounds like he's trying to sell the stock to someone who just had a baby, kinda like a sleezeball car dealer.
    Edited By: sean614 Dec 5th, 2011 at 08:23 PM
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    Dec 5th, 2011 (12/5/2011 8:37pm) in reply to sean614

     
    Originally Posted by sean614 View Post

    if Mark Murphy gave him, as a "Christmas gift" or a "Congratulations you just had a baby gift", the packers stock "worth" $250 then that'd be cool (coudln't tell since our second pic is a red x) otherwise it sounds like he's trying to sell the stock to someone who just had a baby, kinda like a sleezeball car dealer.

    Mark Murphy actually gave my buddy a share of Packer's stock, in his newborn's name. He wasn't trying to sell it to him lol. Should be just one pic of the note my friend received.
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    Dec 5th, 2011 (12/5/2011 8:53pm) in reply to StringerBell

    If owning one share of this stock give you the right to sit in on operation meetings before the season and some other things listed earlier in this thread I think it's a pretty cool thing for the rest of your life at the cost of $250 if you're a fan.

    PS- My gf's best friend is from Green Bay and just asked us for a share Packer stock for Christmas. WTF!?!?!?! It's cool if someone else pays!
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    Dec 5th, 2011 (12/5/2011 10:29pm) in reply to Z-Fresh

     
    Originally Posted by Z-Fresh View Post

    If owning one share of this stock give you the right to sit in on operation meetings before the season and some other things listed earlier in this thread I think it's a pretty cool thing for the rest of your life at the cost of $250 if you're a fan.

    PS- My gf's best friend is from Green Bay and just asked us for a share Packer stock for Christmas. WTF!?!?!?! It's cool if someone else pays!

    With as many shareholders as they have, I doubt it is much of an operation meeting. I see it as more of a presentation to a large audience at a convention center. As a shareholder, you're 1 of a ~100,000, I doubt you get any inside information that isn't leaked to the public within a few minutes of the meeting anyway.

    Nonetheless, still pretty cool that the public owns the team and they are actually able to sell the shares...especially considering my team will be headed off to LA soon...
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    Dec 5th, 2011 (12/5/2011 11:25pm) in reply to satchmo

     
    Originally Posted by satchmo View Post

    Just to point out the obvious-it's easier to have loyalty to the entire team (as an entity and not just the player(s) when there isn't a 'rich' owner at the top. The packers also utilize highschool (or younger?) cheerleaders, which, while not being as entertaining for this demographic, does tie the team in with the community further.

    The cheerleaders are from St. Norbert College and University of Wisconsin - Green Bay
     
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    Dec 5th, 2011 (12/5/2011 11:34pm) in reply to time4badbeat

    My dad is buying one. He is fully aware its basically a piece of paper and he doesnt care.

    He's pretty pumped about it too. Good for him.
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    Dec 6th, 2011 (12/6/2011 12:06am) in reply to sean614

     
    Originally Posted by sean614 View Post

    what exactly does this mean? I mean I believe everyone understands taht people would collect the paper...Its just blindly throwing $300 to an orginazition that def doesn't need it.

    It's ok, I understand. As a die-hard packer fan I've collected a lot of "useless to most people" shit that has the letter "G" in green and gold. So, I hope that helps you understand a little better. Does it? And, if it doesn't, I really don't care. Go, Pack, Go!
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    Dec 6th, 2011 (12/6/2011 12:29am) in reply to time4badbeat

     
    Originally Posted by time4badbeat View Post

    The cheerleaders are from St. Norbert College and University of Wisconsin - Green Bay

    damn, they musta used highschool cheerleaders one game and made a big deal of it and I prolly took that as they always did. I've been corrected
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    Dec 6th, 2011 (12/6/2011 12:45am) in reply to DBo Fo Sho

     
    Originally Posted by DBo Fo Sho View Post

    New England Patriots are owned by Robert Kraft (Net Worth: $1.5 billion), who bought them in 1994 for $172 mil.

    this list by Forbes is pretty cool, lists the purchase price by the owner and current team value: http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/30/...ts_307338.html


    lol....

    Team Value1
    $996 mil
    Pittsburgh Steelers are owned by Daniel Rooney and Art Rooney II, who bought them in 1933 for $2,500.

    even bigger lol....

    Team Value1
    $1.1 bil
    Chicago Bears are owned by McCaskey family, who bought them in 1920 for $100.
    Edited By: fcdunkin Dec 6th, 2011 at 12:48 AM
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    Dec 6th, 2011 (12/6/2011 12:56am) in reply to Gregrrr

     
    Originally Posted by Gregrrr View Post

    If you have to ask about the ROI for this buy, you just don't get it. I have a few close friends who own Packer stock, and one with a Packer tat. I love the Pack. I get it. But I don't own stock. And sometimes I do feel like less of a fan when they joke about being "owners". It's a pride thing. Maybe if you walked once 5-6 blocks to Lambeau, with Packer legion, 45 min. before game time, you would understand.

    wait so when u go to packer games/conversations "fans" guilttrip you for not owning packer stock?

    LOL packer fans. I can just imagine the convo now

    retard #1: "yah i own 8 shares, spent a cool 2k"

    logical fan:"oh yea? cool i guess..."

    retard fan #2: "you don't own any?"

    logical fan: "no"

    retards: "bahaha, and you call yourself a real fan, gtfo poser!"
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    Dec 6th, 2011 (12/6/2011 1:06am) in reply to fcdunkin

     
    Originally Posted by fcdunkin View Post

    Chicago Bears are currently owned by the Green Bay Packers.

    fyp

    As a Packers fan, I think people who buy Bears memorabilia are retards, so I get the hate itt.
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    Dec 6th, 2011 (12/6/2011 1:38pm) in reply to runninbad

     
    Originally Posted by runninbad View Post

    Just one example. Jerry Jones. Paid $150 million for the Cowboys and the stadium. Current value of the Cowboys is north of $1 billion. Granted, he was rich already, but that's a fairly good return.

    Sorry. Thought we were talking about the Packers.

     
    Originally Posted by DBo Fo Sho View Post

    New England Patriots are owned by Robert Kraft (Net Worth: $1.5 billion), who bought them in 1994 for $172 mil.

    this list by Forbes is pretty cool, lists the purchase price by the owner and current team value: http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/30/...ts_307338.html

    Yes... Yes... I thought we were talking about the Packers...

     
    Originally Posted by edwardt1988 View Post

    Team owners of successful franchises usually don't make money on their investments. They invest the money expecting to turn a loss, so it's natural that their fans should bail them out when that occurs. Makes sense dyzalot

    sigh...
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    Dec 6th, 2011 (12/6/2011 4:53pm) in reply to Dyzalot

    I bought one
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    Dec 6th, 2011 (12/6/2011 5:02pm) in reply to Acpittboss

     
    Originally Posted by Acpittboss View Post

    I bought one

    My dad bought one this morning.
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    Dec 6th, 2011 (12/6/2011 5:25pm) in reply to Jaybone2315

    I wish more football teams could go public like the Packers do. I was out there there earlier this year and took the tour of Lambeau Field was worth the $12. Probably the only time I will get to go in to a sky box.





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    Dec 6th, 2011 (12/6/2011 7:32pm) in reply to Acpittboss

    I'm buying one
    http://packersowner.com/
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    Dec 26th, 2011 (12/26/2011 6:17pm) in reply to gutbirdxx

    Mom got me 1 share for Christmas, pretty stokked about it
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    Dec 26th, 2011 (12/26/2011 8:50pm) in reply to MyJobisYou

    All the people who live in NFL cities have probably had much more than 250 bucks taken from them by that team via taxes. And you don't even have a certificate to show for it!!!
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    Dec 26th, 2011 (12/26/2011 9:44pm) in reply to fcdunkin

     
    Originally Posted by fcdunkin View Post

    lol....

    Team Value1
    $996 mil
    Pittsburgh Steelers are owned by Daniel Rooney and Art Rooney II, who bought them in 1933 for $2,500.

    even bigger lol....

    Team Value1
    $1.1 bil
    Chicago Bears are owned by McCaskey family, who bought them in 1920 for $100.

    Wow, 18.64% and 19.74% CAGR for those two investments. Over 77 and 90 years, that is pretty incredible.

    edit: through 2010, obv, numbers are marginally less for 78 and 91
    Edited By: AbnormalQ Dec 26th, 2011 at 09:45 PM
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    Dec 26th, 2011 (12/26/2011 9:44pm) in reply to Camz

     
    Originally Posted by Camz View Post

    wait so when u go to packer games/conversations "fans" guilttrip you for not owning packer stock?

    LOL packer fans. I can just imagine the convo now

    retard #1: "yah i own 8 shares, spent a cool 2k"

    logical fan:"oh yea? cool i guess..."

    retard fan #2: "you don't own any?"

    logical fan: "no"

    retards: "bahaha, and you call yourself a real fan, gtfo poser!"

    Not exactly. My friends will joke about having bought stock and how Murphy, Thompson and McCarthy should pay more attention to their suggestions. I'm more inclined to change the subject. Get it?
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    Dec 26th, 2011 (12/26/2011 10:23pm) in reply to Willywoo

    My little brother bought 2 shares. I did what any good brother would.....laughed my ass off at him and told him how poor his decision it was. He really didn't have a comeback because he knows it was dumb. But I suppose I myself have wasted money on dumber things
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    Dec 26th, 2011 (12/26/2011 10:48pm) in reply to undertheradar

    how is it that poor of a decision? It's not life changing money and you can own part of the team. Doesn't pay dividends nor does it appreciate but what's the big deal if he wants to support/own a part of the team? I don't really see how that could really be a poor decision for such little money.
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