Its Adam and Eve, not Larry and Steve.

 

Originally Posted by SyphonSoul

why is it standard for you to skip posting your thoughts on op and just comment on other takes?

is this abnormal or something? I've never really thought about it or noticed it before. that is exactly what you did ITT tho. anyways, I feel like I respond to plenty of OP related posts on the reg...

it's not like this OP is some kind of thought provoking topic, just a bigot to laugh at. the fun is in the responses.

the right to marry the person of their choice

Some of the major ones are adoption rights, hosiptal vistation and medical rights, and laws lacking against discrimination in the workplace and school.

I'm fine with the government instituting this as long as they fund the electricity via cuts in the budget and not tax hikes.

 

Originally Posted by XquiziVex

With all these gay rights discussions going on...I'm a little naive on the subject.

What rights exactly does the government deny the gays?

The right to equality under the law.

 

Originally Posted by XquiziVex

That's it? Seems kind of silly really. I've been married for 15 years, and honestly, it was basically just a ceremony that anyone could have. Any two people can dress up, have a party, and pay someone to give out the I Do's. What does law have to do with it.

My wife is from Laos and most of the Laotian community are "married" but not in the "legal" sense.

The "right" to "marry" is seems like a bunch of hyperbole.

i dont know what all the rights are that are granted to legal spouses, but when u find them out, u may rethink it being just a ceremony that anyone could have.

 

Originally Posted by XquiziVex

That's it? Seems kind of silly really. I've been married for 15 years, and honestly, it was basically just a ceremony that anyone could have. Any two people can dress up, have a party, and pay someone to give out the I Do's. What does law have to do with it.

My wife is from Laos and most of the Laotian community are "married" but not in the "legal" sense.

The "right" to "marry" is seems like a bunch of hyperbole.

How am I supposed to respond to this seriously?

Hmmmm... I guess there are a few:

Tax Benefits

Filing joint income tax returns with the IRS and state taxing authorities.
Creating a "family partnership" under federal tax laws, which allows you to divide business income among family members.
Estate Planning Benefits
Inheriting a share of your spouse's estate.
Receiving an exemption from both estate taxes and gift taxes for all property you give or leave to your spouse.
Creating life estate trusts that are restricted to married couples, including QTIP trusts, QDOT trusts, and marital deduction trusts.
Obtaining priority if a conservator needs to be appointed for your spouse -- that is, someone to make financial and/or medical decisions on your spouse's behalf.
Government Benefits

Receiving Social Security, Medicare, and disability benefits for spouses.
Receiving veterans' and military benefits for spouses, such as those for education, medical care, or special loans.
Receiving public assistance benefits.
Employment Benefits

Obtaining insurance benefits through a spouse's employer.
Taking family leave to care for your spouse during an illness.
Receiving wages, workers' compensation, and retirement plan benefits for a deceased spouse.
Taking bereavement leave if your spouse or one of your spouse's close relatives dies.
Medical Benefits
Visiting your spouse in a hospital intensive care unit or during restricted visiting hours in other parts of a medical facility.
Making medical decisions for your spouse if he or she becomes incapacitated and unable to express wishes for treatment.


Death Benefits

Consenting to after-death examinations and procedures.
Making burial or other final arrangements.

Family Benefits

Filing for stepparent or joint adoption.
Applying for joint foster care rights.
Receiving equitable division of property if you divorce.
Receiving spousal or child support, child custody, and visitation if you divorce.

Housing Benefits

Living in neighborhoods zoned for "families only."
Automatically renewing leases signed by your spouse.

Consumer Benefits

Receiving family rates for health, homeowners', auto, and other types of insurance.
Receiving tuition discounts and permission to use school facilities.
Other consumer discounts and incentives offered only to married couples or families.


Other Legal Benefits and Protections

Suing a third person for wrongful death of your spouse and loss of consortium (loss of intimacy).
Suing a third person for offenses that interfere with the success of your marriage, such as alienation of affection and criminal conversation (these laws are available in only a few states).
Claiming the marital communications privilege, which means a court can't force you to disclose the contents of confidential communications between you and your spouse during your marriage.
Receiving crime victims' recovery benefits if your spouse is the victim of a crime.
Obtaining immigration and residency benefits for noncitizen spouse.
Visiting rights in jails and other places where visitors are restricted to immediate family.

 

Originally Posted by XXEDPXX

How am I supposed to respond to this seriously?

I seriously admitted I am naive on this subject, and was thinking out loud. No need to respond.. I lurned myself.

Yeah, pretty bad when someone professes ignorancce then goes out and gets the knowledge and shares it with all. Wait, what

 

Originally Posted by SyphonSoul

its hilarious to me to read shit like this. And you know there isnt a hell because......why, how? Makes you the same hypocritical fool that overzealous religious people are. You dont know dick, just like people who practice religion dont know dick. Lets just say we'll wait and see.

I am sitting here typing this post with one hand and I have an apple in the other. When I finish typing, I am going to release my grip on the apple and see what happens. I think it is going to fall to floor and I am confident enough to make the statement "the apple will fall to the floor". I am sure that my opinion on this is equally as hilarious to you as the statement "there is no hell". You could then say "And you know it isn't going to float because...why, how? Just because all investigations in physics lead you to that conclusion doesn't mean that the apple will not float. You don't know dick, just like people who practice physics don't know dick. Lets just wait and see what happens to the apple."

We can not know exactly what is going to happen. We can however be justified in the beliefs that we hold through observation and experimentation and can then develop a domain of expertise and reach objective conclusions. Why can I say that the apple will not float with as much confidence as I can say there is no hell? Because there is no evidence to suggest that either will occur and there is sufficient reason to believe that neither will occur.

 

Originally Posted by qjuice14

I am sitting here typing this post with one hand and I have an apple in the other. When I finish typing, I am going to release my grip on the apple and see what happens. I think it is going to fall to floor and I am confident enough to make the statement "the apple will fall to the floor". I am sure that my opinion on this is equally as hilarious to you as the statement "there is no hell". You could then say "And you know it isn't going to float because...why, how? Just because all investigations in physics lead you to that conclusion doesn't mean that the apple will not float. You don't know dick, just like people who practice physics don't know dick. Lets just wait and see what happens to the apple."

We can not know exactly what is going to happen. We can however be justified in the beliefs that we hold through observation and experimentation and can then develop a domain of expertise and reach objective conclusions. Why can I say that the apple will not float with as much confidence as I can say there is no hell? Because there is no evidence to suggest that either will occur and there is sufficient reason to believe that neither will occur.

All this apple talk got me thinking



If she was a lesbian and I married her, would that make me in favor of gay marriage?
Or would all the empirical evidence still point to me being hetero?

I think that's exactly what he said.