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Gavin Newsome Juan time!
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Is that George Takei Jr.?
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pfff. Like POTUS can't get ahold of her own Death Certificate
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Edited By: aad Aug 13th, 2012 at 05:19 AMyeah that would be a welcome change from ads attacking Obama for killing old people through his death panels!Originally Posted by jay_bear
I just want to know how long until we see an ad about Ryan wanting to kill old people?
Romney could have picked Bozo the Clown for running mate and the conservatives would still have voted for him. If the Republican party wants any chance of winning the general election, they should have picked somone that could pull in swing votes.Originally Posted by Leet8s
1. People who are voting for Romney because they believe his background is best for the economy are still going to be voting for Romney after this selection. I don't see how the swing voters, who aren't directly compelled to vote Romney because of his background, are now going to vote for him just because of Ryan.
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"America, America is just more than a place, though. America is an idea. It's the only country founded on an idea. Our rights come from nature and God, not from government. That's right. That's who we are, that's how we built this country. That's who we are. That's what made us great. That's what made us great. We promise equal opportunity, not equal outcomes," Ryan said."
Edited By: MadProfesor Aug 13th, 2012 at 06:50 PM
Our rights come from God? Really? Link? Proof? What about all those countries that dont have rights? I guess God just hates them. "Rights" come from people + society + government. Sorry sir, god has nothing to do with it. -
They have the rights too, dummy. They just havent stopped "people" from taking them. Looooooooool @ rights come from people. You dont deserve to be free if you are born in n korea?
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Ps Is this thread worth reading? First page said hell no (lol leets doesnt like the repub pick? Shocking lol) but last page has me intrigued
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"More than 2,000 years ago, a child was born to two faithful travelers who could find rest only in a stable, among the cattle and the sheep. But this was not just any child. Christ's birth made the angels rejoice and attracted shepherds and kings from afar. He was a manifestation of God's love for us.
Originally Posted by MadProfesor
"America, America is just more than a place, though. America is an idea. It's the only country founded on an idea. Our rights come from nature and God, not from government. That's right. That's who we are, that's how we built this country. That's who we are. That's what made us great. That's what made us great. We promise equal opportunity, not equal outcomes," Ryan said."
Our rights come from God? Really? Link? Proof? What about all those countries that dont have rights? I guess God just hates them. "Rights" come from people + society + government. Sorry sir, god has nothing to do with it.
"And he grew up to become a leader with a servant's heart who taught us a message as simple as it is powerful: that we should love God, and love our neighbor as ourselves. That teaching has come to encircle the globe. No matter who we are, or where we come from, or how we worship, it's a message that can unite all of us on this holiday season."
"I wanted to host this breakfast for a simple reason -- because as busy as we are, as many tasks as pile up, during this season, we are reminded that there's something about the resurrection -- something about the resurrection of our savior, Jesus Christ, that puts everything else in perspective.
"We all live in the hustle and bustle of our work. And everybody in this room has weighty responsibilities, from leading churches and denominations, to helping to administer important government programs, to shaping our culture in various ways. And I admit that my plate has been full as well. The inbox keeps on accumulating.
"But then comes Holy Week. The triumph of Palm Sunday. The humility of Jesus washing the disciples' feet. His slow march up that hill, and the pain and the scorn and the shame of the cross. And we're reminded that in that moment, he took on the sins of the world -- past, present and future -- and he extended to us that unfathomable gift of grace and salvation through his death and resurrection."
"And like all of us, my faith journey has had its twists and turns. It hasn't always been a straight line. I have thanked God for the joys of parenthood and Michelle's willingness to put up with me. In the wake of failures and disappointments I've questioned what God had in store for me and been reminded that God's plans for us may not always match our own short-sighted desires.
"And let me tell you, these past two years, they have deepened my faith. The presidency has a funny way of making a person feel the need to pray. Abe Lincoln said, as many of you know, 'I have been driven to my knees many times by the overwhelming conviction that I had no place else to go.'"
"For even after the passage of 2,000 years, we can still picture the moment in our mind's eye. The young man from Nazareth marched through Jerusalem; object of scorn and derision and abuse and torture by an empire. The agony of crucifixion amid the cries of thieves. The discovery, just three days later, that would forever alter our world -- that the Son of Man was not to be found in his tomb and that Jesus Christ had risen.
"We are awed by the grace he showed even to those who would have killed him. We are thankful for the sacrifice he gave for the sins of humanity. And we glory in the promise of redemption in the resurrection."
"I didn't become a Christian until many years later, when I moved to the South Side of Chicago after college. It happened not because of indoctrination or a sudden revelation, but because I spent month after month working with church folks who simply wanted to help neighbors who were down on their luck no matter what they looked like, or where they came from, or who they prayed to. It was on those streets, in those neighborhoods, that I first heard God's spirit beckon me. It was there that I felt called to a higher purpose -- His purpose."
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So lets say we have no government. I kill someone and take their right to life. So I guess God is gonna come down from the sky and punish me and give that person back their life because its a so called "right"?
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you just blew me away bro. mind officially blown
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or he just wanted to be accepted into the black community as a black person so he joined the largest black gospel church to give him credibility for when he ran for office. Dances with wolves.
Originally Posted by Willywoo
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"I didn't become a Christian until many years later, when I moved to the South Side of Chicago after college. It happened not because of indoctrination or a sudden revelation, but because I spent month after month working with church folks who simply wanted to help neighbors who were down on their luck no matter what they looked like, or where they came from, or who they prayed to. It was on those streets, in those neighborhoods, that I first heard God's spirit beckon me. It was there that I felt called to a higher purpose. -
Who says anyone has rights? God? Nature? You are just born with the right to be free?
Originally Posted by norcaljeff
They have the rights too, dummy. They just havent stopped "people" from taking them. Looooooooool @ rights come from people. You dont deserve to be free if you are born in n korea?
Survival of the fittest baby! Isnt that what you republitards believe in?
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Not gonna pass up an opportunity where MadProf gets serious for once: a right is not something that's necessarily guaranteed. They are to be recognized as moral principles (or ignored, as is often the case). They can be violated, and to be properly protected, they must be so by a government. In other words, no, God is not gonna come down and strike you down if you abridge the rights of another human being. It is up to men.
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So, it's okay to question someone's sincerely held beliefs, but those who wear the artifice of belief in order to promote their own self-interests get a pass?
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I read it like he's on your side.
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Thank you sir for your logical response. My work is done. I guess I have to go back to posting dumb gifs now ;-(
Originally Posted by emcee21
Not gonna pass up an opportunity where MadProf gets serious for once: a right is not something that's necessarily guaranteed. They are to be recognized as moral principles (or ignored, as is often the case). They can be violated, and to be properly protected, they must be so by a government. In other words, no, God is not gonna come down and strike you down if you abridge the rights of another human being. It is up to men.
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In general, I just don't see how so many people (including a lot of friends of mine) believe the "he's a Christian out of convenience" theory and forgive him, or even support him. To me, if he was faking for power, that says pretty terrible things about his integrity, given how much time he has spent openly professing. Unprincipled exceptions FTL. Can't say where (oIo) is on the issue.
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The only rights you have are the rights the guy with a gun grants you.
Originally Posted by MadProfesor
"America, America is just more than a place, though. America is an idea. It's the only country founded on an idea. Our rights come from nature and God, not from government. That's right. That's who we are, that's how we built this country. That's who we are. That's what made us great. That's what made us great. We promise equal opportunity, not equal outcomes," Ryan said."
Our rights come from God? Really? Link? Proof? What about all those countries that dont have rights? I guess God just hates them. "Rights" come from people + society + government. Sorry sir, god has nothing to do with it. -
Prettty pathetic choice for VP. Congrats Obama on your 2nd term.
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This Paul Ryan guy is somebody I'd love to have a beer with, may get my vote
People have called him a bigot but the guy had the foresight to build a floor in his home designed to make midgets comfortable. I am concerned he may shit a little too frequently, who needs 7 bathrooms?His musical preferences include Beethoven, Rage Against the Machine and Led Zeppelin.
has made close to 40 climbs of Colorado's Fourteeners (14,000-foot peaks)
makes his own bratwurst and Polish sausage.
They live in a six-bedroom, seven-bathroom, 2.5 story
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Both are true. Natural rights are logical and inalienable, human rights. Legal rights are granted by by the government. The two are not the same. Rights frequently considered universal are not always guaranteed by our government. Gay rights to equal protection are under debate, the right to form unions to advocate in your interests is not universal if you're a teacher in Wisconsin, freedom of thought/expression/opinion seems to be under attack by the same groups that are infringing upon the rights to privacy. Actually, when examined it seems like the rights that many consider inalienable are really not protected well by our government.
Originally Posted by emcee21
Not gonna pass up an opportunity where MadProf gets serious for once: a right is not something that's necessarily guaranteed. They are to be recognized as moral principles (or ignored, as is often the case). They can be violated, and to be properly protected, they must be so by a government. In other words, no, God is not gonna come down and strike you down if you abridge the rights of another human being. It is up to men.
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Has there ever been a successful american politician of any stature who openly dismissed god and the church? Some are obviously christian fundamentalists and play up to that, while others might be "holiday" christians who use the church for networking purposes. You could lose a ton of votes, but you have very few to gain and that's the bottom line. Wear a cardigan sweater, surround yourself with family, speak of your humble upbringing, and discuss the importance of god in your life. It's all in the handbook.
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Edited By: Zeppelin Aug 13th, 2012 at 10:40 PMLast I heard there was only one open atheist in congress. Most under represented demographic in the country!Originally Posted by saxman
Has there ever been a successful american politician of any stature who openly dismissed god and the church? Some are obviously christian fundamentalists and play up to that, while others might be "holiday" christians who use the church for networking purposes. You could lose a ton of votes, but you have very few to gain and that's the bottom line. Wear a cardigan sweater, surround yourself with family, speak of your humble upbringing, and discuss the importance of god in your life. It's all in the handbook.
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As it should be in a country that's overwhelming christian. Simple math
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