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  1. slaps825 slaps825 is offline

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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 3:02pm)

    Screw you dude.

    He just went on a rant on Sports Reporters about how Barry Bonds doesn't deserve to be in the HOF, but dude, the only reason ANYBODY knows who you are is because you were on Barry Bonds' nutsack for like five years following his every move when he was the biggest name in the game.

    I hate these reporters who cry about PEDs when their own careers benefited very much from the fame guys like Bonds and McGwire created.
  2. SluggerWV SluggerWV is offline A picture is worth a thousand words.

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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 3:04pm) in reply to slaps825

    He was part of the worst panel in Sports Reporters history this morning
  3. smcrawford2 smcrawford2 is offline The Decision Tree

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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 4:42pm) in reply to SluggerWV

    my theory is that espn had gomez cover bonds so if bonds went crazy and beat pedro down, it would have been a hate crime.
     
  4. SluggerWV SluggerWV is offline A picture is worth a thousand words.

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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 7:28pm) in reply to smcrawford2

     
    Originally Posted by smcrawford2 View Post

    my theory is that espn had gomez cover bonds so if bonds went crazy and beat pedro down, it would have been a hate crime.

    lol
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 7:38pm) in reply to SluggerWV

    any1 who doesn't think Bonds is a HOFER didn't watch him play
  6. SluggerWV SluggerWV is offline A picture is worth a thousand words.

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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 7:40pm) in reply to AMARTIN1181

    i watched him play and I don't believe he belongs in the hall because of what he did

    I dont think McGwire or Sosa belong there either
  7. marinersheep marinersheep is offline This is stupid.

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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 7:46pm) in reply to SluggerWV

    Of course he's a HOF'er.
     
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 8:03pm) in reply to marinersheep

    he is a hall of famer no doubt. im not letting him off the hook for steroids but he was a great player either way
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 8:08pm) in reply to JasonBDizzle

    we don't even really have positive proof that he did steroids, do we?
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  10. SluggerWV SluggerWV is offline A picture is worth a thousand words.

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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 8:09pm) in reply to warden

    i dont mean to say that his level of play was not worthy of the hall

    i believe he forfeited that opportunity by cheating and i believe the sportswriters who elect them will agree with me
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 8:10pm) in reply to SluggerWV

    slugger for some1 who loves fake tits so much i'm surprised on ur stance on steroids =)
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 8:11pm) in reply to AMARTIN1181

     
    Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181 View Post

    slugger for some1 who loves fake tits so much i'm surprised on ur stance on steroids =)

    they aren't against the rules sir
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 8:16pm) in reply to SluggerWV

    hahaaa
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 8:51pm) in reply to AMARTIN1181

    Obviously has the stats for the hall, but if it's proven he did PED's, he doesn't belong in the hall. Nor does any of the other players from that era who got the undeserved padded stats as a direct result. Just not fair to all the guys who came before this era who had to do it without roids.
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 9:22pm) in reply to 2Slick4u

     
    Originally Posted by 2Slick4u View Post

    Obviously has the stats for the hall, but if it's proven he did PED's, he doesn't belong in the hall. Nor does any of the other players from that era who got the undeserved padded stats as a direct result. Just not fair to all the guys who came before this era who had to do it without roids.

    but bonds was a hall of famer before steroids. it's not like he wasn't a hall of famer, used steroids, and became one. he was a beast in the early 90s without them.
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 9:30pm) in reply to warden

    its funny, the people who whine and complain about players in the 90s and 00s using PEDs conveniently forget that stars of the 60s, 70s, and 80s popped handfuls of greenies, which are currently on mlb's banned substance list. can't have it both ways, folks.
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 9:37pm) in reply to krs33

    There were/are some users of PEDs, some suspected users, some non users, no matter how you define it. There have been these same three categories of players for generations, only amphetamines were the drug of choice and still are for some. What are we going to do about that? PED/Steroid use was a major part of the game. I doubt it does any good to attempt to formally separate out those who used and might have used form those who didn't for purposes of records and HOF selection.

    He is who he is are and people can make up their own mind how they will remember him and the others who used PEDs. They all played the same game and every knows or can found out who's who, so keeping him or anyone else out of the HOF would be as dumb as keeping Pete Rose out. They are both a significant part of baseball history and to ignore them or ostracize them just seems silly. Let 'em in and let the fans and players determine the legacy not the sportswriters.
  18. Hateflops Hateflops is offline 7 over par. ship it!

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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 9:40pm) in reply to Willywoo

    I don't care if he belongs in the hall of fame or not. I fucking hate Barry Bonds.
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 9:41pm) in reply to warden

     
    Originally Posted by dpottz View Post

    we don't even really have positive proof that he did steroids, do we?


    Hahah awesome.
  20. marinersheep marinersheep is offline This is stupid.

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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 10:03pm) in reply to Willywoo

     
    Originally Posted by Willywoo View Post

    There were/are some users of PEDs, some suspected users, some non users, no matter how you define it. There have been these same three categories of players for generations, only amphetamines were the drug of choice and still are for some. What are we going to do about that? PED/Steroid use was a major part of the game. I doubt it does any good to attempt to formally separate out those who used and might have used form those who didn't for purposes of records and HOF selection.

    He is who he is are and people can make up their own mind how they will remember him and the others who used PEDs. They all played the same game and every knows or can found out who's who, so keeping him or anyone else out of the HOF would be as dumb as keeping Pete Rose out. They are both a significant part of baseball history and to ignore them or ostracize them just seems silly. Let 'em in and let the fans and players determine the legacy not the sportswriters.

    Agreed.
     
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 10:04pm) in reply to marinersheep

    i dont think he did steroids either.



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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 10:06pm) in reply to nanners27

     
    Originally Posted by nanners27 View Post

    i dont think he did steroids either.

    didn't say that.

    what i did say is that i'm not sure there is any positive proof, which i'd like if you're going to prevent arguably the greatest offensive player of all time from entering the hall of fame.
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 10:08pm) in reply to marinersheep

    Pedro sucks. He was a local reporter in AZ, glad he left and went to ESPN, I had to see a lot less of him after that.
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 10:10pm) in reply to that_pope

    where the fuck is norcaljeff????????
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 10:13pm) in reply to warden

    only proof that he did steroids at the moment was his growth spurt between the ages of 30-40
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 10:40pm) in reply to nanners27

    Can't compare college Barry and later Barry, there has been a huge growth in how a baseball player trains in that 20 year span. Everyone was skinny in 1986 and im guessing by the pitcure that he was one of the bigger guys. Everyone is jacked now. Not saying he didn't do steriods but comparing a 1986 barry to a 2006 barry isn't fair.
  27. TheWacoKidd TheWacoKidd is offline haters gonna hate

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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 11:08pm) in reply to 2Slick4u

     
    Originally Posted by 2Slick4u View Post

    Obviously has the stats for the hall, but if it's proven he did PED's, he doesn't belong in the hall. Nor does any of the other players from that era who got the undeserved padded stats as a direct result. Just not fair to all the guys who came before this era who had to do it without roids.

    how do you know players from previous eras never used PED's of some sort?

    horse steroids FTW... not to mention amphetamine pills
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 11:20pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    It's an odd defense for someone who is guilty to say how do we know that everyone else isn't guilty too so why should I be punished. Let's assume that the baseline for achievement was set by players using greenies in the 60s and 70s. Bonds' transgression allowed him to perform at a level far above that. Clearly his choice of drug was more effective for improving his stats.

    I cannot imagine people unbiasedly looking at the evidence and concluding he didn't do it. It is another thing to say that it isn't a big deal and he shouldn't be kept out of the hall of fame because of it. His stats from the time before he started committing a felonymay be praise worthy, his decision making and his behavior after that time is not. Baseball Hall of Fame appears to me to be an Honor for those who exemplify the best of the game. Bonds, Rose, McGwire, Sosa and Palmero's do not
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  29. TheWacoKidd TheWacoKidd is offline haters gonna hate

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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 11:24pm) in reply to SluggerWV

    he did it. he is also a clear-cut HOFer

    and loooool @ personal use of steroids being a felony
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    Jul 25th, 2010 (7/25/2010 11:27pm) in reply to SluggerWV

    I do not commend what Barry did, with that said its very obvious that he did it, but if he is left out of the Hall of Fame it would be the biggest blunder in the history of baseball.
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