Originally Posted by FRANKGATES

No. you didnt answer my well thought out post about HOW/WHAT was the cause of both towers COLLAPSING.
You had 0 answer you just came back with some strawman idiotic question. you answered a question with a question.

you still have no told me how:
15storys above jet impact caused 80 storys below to collapse without resistance at freefall speed in ten seconds.

^this is all that matters. nothing else.

frank youre a clown. its called physics. being that you dont believe this can freefall despite numerous engineers telling us how it happens, what is your theory?? you really think bombs were planted inside the building??? by who??? and how?

its like talking to a wall. like explaining color to a blind man

 

Originally Posted by FRANKGATES

quite possibly yes. however im not sure whose more nuts, people that actually believe what theyre told or what they see for themselves. I for one, 9 years later, to this day have never seen a real survellience video of a 747 crashing into the pentagon. for that matter no one has. those videos have not been leaked for the public to see. Logically one would than come to the conclusion without real solid video evidence why should anyone believe that a 747 did crash into it?

So again we're onto a different subject? Because you maybe read what I linked and can't refute it? Lol love how u just skip around to diff topics.

 

Originally Posted by Hateflops

So again we're onto a different subject? Because you maybe read what I linked and can't refute it? Lol love how u just skip around to diff topics.

nah i didnt bother to read it. theres 0 point. you didnt read www.ae911truth.org neither sides will be moved off their stance so this "debate" or watever u want it should end right now lol. cuz neither side is ever gonna convince the other side. thats all there is to it!

i got a great life in my igloo in vancouver bc so im gonna let this topic be n lurk the rest of this subject cuz lets get real we arent ever gonna come to an agreement so lets just agree to disagree!

 

Originally Posted by FRANKGATES

nah i didnt bother to read it. theres 0 point. you didnt read www.ae911truth.org neither sides will be moved off their stance so this "debate" or watever u want it should end right now lol. cuz neither side is ever gonna convince the other side. thats all there is to it!

i got a great life in my igloo in vancouver bc so im gonna let this topic be n lurk the rest of this subject cuz lets get real we arent ever gonna come to an agreement so lets just agree to disagree!

Again you are wrong, I did infact read it! Also, I can be moved off of my stance which IMO is the biggest difference between normal people and truthers. We INDEED can be moved off of our stance with credible evidence and admissions from people.

That is easily the biggest difference. We infact can be moved off of our stance! While truthers no matter what has been drawn up will never under any circumstance change their minds.

Thank you for letting us win this argument once again.

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Originally Posted by j_money24

I'm an engineer and I can tell you that being an engineer != being smart. I know a lot of really really really really hopelessly stupid engineers. Just sayin'

And that's just with respect to physics and engineering, which says nothing about common sense or logic. Factor in those things and I can easily see there being a lot of stupid people who are also engineers who think there's some 9/11 conspiracy.

Those truthers are not posting because they are confused. They think that the exclamation point in your post was a typo. You should explain it to them.

 

Originally Posted by Hateflops

woops

I did read his article and even quoted it. Nice edit there :)

 

Originally Posted by Hateflops

So can you debunk it? Or........

huh? did you even read my response? you gotta read more before you start randomly clicking buttons

Btw I'm going to go work out I'll be back later for some entertainment! Hopefully a truther will have a drawn out theory about 9/11 and what happened and why by the time I get back! Instead of bits and pieces that seem odd.

GLGLGLGLGL!!!

So all you care about is how they were brought down?

You are OK with the theory that members of Al Qaeda were behind 9/11 and you just think there was another element to their plot? That being that not only did they fly planes into the buildings but that they also detonated explosives at the same time?

Sounds fine to me.

 

Originally Posted by z06fanatic

But generally speaking, to think a bunch of morons living in Saudi Arabia could come to the US, attend flight school, become good enough to fly these massive commerical aircrafts, get through security at an airport with knives on them, kill the pilots and take over the plane without any distress signals being sent out, and then proceed to fly them into the twin towers and pentagon sounds like a very tough task to complete.

This seems like a tough task to complete but the US government being involved seems plausible to you? Not as hard to somehow hatch a plan to kill their own citizens to enhance defense and make defense contractors rich without any information coming forward 9 years later seems easier to you.

You don't think one person that knew this plan was coming would leak that information before or after. How many people have to be involved in forming and implementing the plan. Not one person before or nine years after leaks anything regarding this plan. This theory (trust me I already know you will say no I didn't say that I understand the game plan of Truthers) seems easier to you.

 

Originally Posted by z06fanatic

I mean its obvious the amount of money tied to going to war - it stimulates the economy

This is an extraordinarily common idea that couldn't be more wrong

 

Originally Posted by CaptinMorgan

This seems like a tough task to complete but the US government being involved seems plausible to you? Not as hard to somehow hatch a plan to kill their own citizens to enhance defense and make defense contractors rich without any information coming forward 9 years later seems easier to you.

You don't think one person that knew this plan was coming would leak that information before or after. How many people have to be involved in forming and implementing the plan. Not one person before or nine years after leaks anything regarding this plan. This theory (trust me I already know you will say no I didn't say that I understand the game plan of Truthers) seems easier to you.

Oh I definitely agree - both are pretty outrageous ideas to think about, thats why Im looking into things without just accepting the fact

 

Originally Posted by Artiecat

Frankgates = hoobangin

Incorrect.

 

Originally Posted by Hateflops

I'm sure that website isn't favoring one side at all. Seems legit.

Says the guy that keeps linking and referring to a site called debunking911.com. Can I borrow your super cool ironing picture please.

 

Originally Posted by j_money24

I'm an engineer and I can tell you that being an engineer != being smart. I know a lot of really really really really hopelessly stupid engineers. Just sayin'

And that's just with respect to physics and engineering, which says nothing about common sense or logic. Factor in those things and I can easily see there being a lot of stupid people who are also engineers who think there's some 9/11 conspiracy.

Debunker engineers are a lot smarter than truther engineers apparently. Thank you for your input sir!

 

Originally Posted by Hoobangin

According to http://www.ae911truth.org/

1,402 verified architectural and engineering professionals and 10,723 other supporters
have signed the petition demanding of Congress
a truly independent investigation.

If you click on the 1402 that is underlined on the front page it links you to all their personal information. From there you can click on each person to go to their profile where they each have personal 911 statements. That is quite a few experts right there that all question the official story. Or do these ones not count because that website is not reputable in some way?

So the sheep are saying these guys aren't experts? Or are all of them just at the bottom of their respected fields?