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  1. My dog apparently has horrible allergies. We've taken her to the vet, and they've said to just put a pill version of Benadryl in with her meals...well it's not working.

    Her ears are flaming bright red, and she will not stop shaking them to try and relieve the itch or burn. She's also been itching them lately, and I'm afraid she's going to start bloodying them up.

    Is there anything else we can possibly do? Do they have allergy shots for dogs?

    I'm having the wife call the vet again today to see if we can get her back in to see if it's something other than allergies...

    Any suggestions? Thanks.
  2. breed of dog?
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    Originally Posted by odi420 View Post

    breed of dog?

    Not entirely positive, b/c we got her from a shelter. We originally thought Chocolate Lab/Pitbull mix...but after doing a little more research lately, I'm 100% positive that she is at least partially Chesapeake Bay Retriever...still a little bit of pitbull in the face.

    Pics coming in a minute.

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    Edited By: JRoth15 Sep 19th, 2011 at 06:31 PM
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  4. hmmmm...the vet didnt recommend a cream of any sort? similar to benedryl but with higher levels of antihistimine?
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    Originally Posted by odi420 View Post

    hmmmm...the vet didnt recommend a cream of any sort? similar to benedryl but with higher levels of antihistimine?

    Not yet...the first time she just recommended the pill version of Benadryl to mix in with her meals (she eats once in the morning and once around dinner time).

    I feel awful because she's completely miserable...rubbing her ears along the couch to try and relieve the discomfort etc.

    Hopefully she'll recommend something better today.

    In the meantime, no lesser-known home tricks or remedies to help??
    Edited By: JRoth15 Sep 19th, 2011 at 06:45 PM
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  6. retrievers are notorious for ear problems, especially yeast infections. diet can play a part in this too so consider putting them on a duck and sweet potato diet (has worked for me).

    my lab has it the worst. daily i use OTI-SOOTHE which is a liquid solution that cleans and soothes the ear canal. you have to squirt it in there, shove a cotton ball in tight, then massage their ear (you should hear it making sounds down in the canal and that is good you know it's getting to the right place). let them shake, then take out the cotton balls.

    if he has it really bad, then you need Gentizol or otimax (sp?). i prefer gentizol. it's greasy and disgusting so cotton balls are a must. same as other, stick in the pointy part squeeze it down into the canal and massage. the cotton ball will probably come out with a bunch of blackish/purple crusty disgusting shit. once it comes out clear refer to solution above.

    sometimes the pinna (earflap) gets fucked up, red, and even little rash bumps on it, then you need Entederm ointment. it's yellow and oily. take a cotton ball wipe the flap with it, and it clears it up pretty quickly.

    ear shaking can cause them to get a hematoma on their ears. i've had this happen too. i've had a lot of retrievers and have had to treat all of their ears. it's just that common. the hematoma is like a little pocket of blood in the flap of the ear, this requires steroids.

    also, i give my lab 3 benadryls a day, and 1 pine bark extract to try and keep the ear problems under control. it helps some. the lab is the most difficult, my golden doesn't need all this and usually just an occasional flush with the oti-soothe keeps him good.

    good luck hope it gets better
     
  7. call the vet, tell'm the benedryl ain't working, they'll give you/recommend something else.
  8. wow...thanks BC for the great response.

    what if her ear already makes the liquidy sounds when you massage it?

    i'll definitely be trying a few of those suggestions...not looking forward to getting my arms torn up from trying to hold her while putting the medicine in her ears tho...she HATES having her ears messed with.

    EDIT--btw, Bluffer...do your dogs have allergies? or do retrievers just normally have ear problems that aren't related to allergies? the vet immediately said it was allergic, but i'm sure she could be wrong...
    Edited By: JRoth15 Sep 19th, 2011 at 06:47 PM
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  9. yeah, mine runs when he sees me get cotton balls, he knows! they hate it. yours sounds like a 2 man operation one person to hold and the other to do the dirty work.

    i think if it is making the liquidy sound then there is probably a lot of gunk and moisture down there. do you have a pond or lake they swim in? swimming makes it worse for mine.

    if you try to wipe any of the stuff out of the ear you'll just irritate it more until you have something soothing like the solution to put in there.

    i've never found anything natural or a home remedy for these problems, i'd certainly be open to it but nothing other than what i wrote you has ever worked. i've also tried tons of ear cleaners, and the ones i listed are tried and true and all that have worked for me. some of the others have actually increased the problem and irritated the ears more. then of course, the more irritated the ear is the more they shake, scratch and rub making it even worse - poor things are their own worst enemies :(
    Edited By: BlufferChic Sep 19th, 2011 at 07:06 PM
     
  10. Cute dog JRoth! I hope you figure it out and she feels better soon. That sounds pretty miserable for her. On a related note, my dog keeps scratching his belly and making himself bleed. He's a full-blooded Collie. I'm wondering if his is allergies, too. He's on flea/tick prevention. Anyone know if Collies are prone to any skin allergies or conditions? I'm getting him neutered next week. Hopefully the vet can give me some idea what's causing it and what to do.
  11. yes, the lab has allergies. generally food related, but they can get the ear problems from external things too like swimming etc.

    you can play around with different foods and see if the ear problems get better - try finding a dog food that has none of the ingredients that your current dog food contains (this can get expensive). my dog responds best to the duck and sweet potato. i used to make my own dog food but my main ingredient was brown rice and that seemed to make the lab's ears worse. back in the old days they used to have you put the dogs on lamb and rice when they had allergies, but now all common dog foods contain lamb and rice so you have to get creative.

    allergy testing from the vet is super expensive and not very conclusive. i'm sure your vet will recommend this at some point.

    edit - also, yes retrievers are just prone to these ear problems. so it's yes and yes to allergies and it being a common problem with their ears.
    Edited By: BlufferChic Sep 19th, 2011 at 07:03 PM
     
  12. BC seems better versed in this issue than me....i trust what they are saying...
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    Originally Posted by BlufferChic View Post

    i think if it is making the liquidy sound then there is probably a lot of gunk and moisture down there. do you have a pond or lake they swim in? swimming makes it worse for mine.

    she actually has never been swimming before, so we're clear there.

     
    Originally Posted by BlufferChic View Post

    you can play around with different foods and see if the ear problems get better - try finding a dog food that has none of the ingredients that your current dog food contains (this can get expensive). my dog responds best to the duck and sweet potato. i used to make my own dog food but my main ingredient was brown rice and that seemed to make the lab's ears worse. back in the old days they used to have you put the dogs on lamb and rice when they had allergies, but now all common dog foods contain lamb and rice so you have to get creative.

    I'll have to try this to...makes me feel horrible for her when she's in constant irritation.

    Thanks again for all your help!

     
    Originally Posted by odi420 View Post

    BC seems better versed in this issue than me....i trust what they are saying...

    and appreciate the help (or try at least) here too
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  14. you're very welcome. hopefully, she'll be doing better soon.

    if you pick up the solutions from the vet you'll be surprised how quickly she'll be feeling better - they improve quite a bit in just a day or two.

    also, don't let the other dog lick her ears (if this happens).

    since she hasnt' been swimming i'd have to think it's just a lot of that purple liquidy gunk that builds up. you could try gently taking a qtip and just lightly swirl it in the ear canal (don't rub or put pressure cause that'll irritate it more). then see what comes out on the qtip (my guess of course is the crusty purple/black stuff). the vet might do this too to see what comes out - they might also do labwork on it to see what it is - it's generally just yeast infections but i suppose she could have ear mites - i would think if that were the case the other dog would be shaking too. my dogs have never had ear mites and it has always just been the typical old yeast infection.
     
  15. Our boxer is allergic to just about everything. we went through dietry changes/drugs etc and couldnt get it to stop. We have now found a drug called Atopica which has made a world of difference, costs a damn Fortune (bloody animals bleed you dry!) but i believe that there are generics out there.

    Good luck its one of the most heart breaking things watching your animals suffer. we had to put a t-shirt on ours before it got better to stop it scratching itself so much it bled
  16. I got 2 labs and 1 has ear issues with the constant ear flapping at least once a year. It is usually some sort of infection that the vet gives some cream and antibiotics. We use witch hazel to wipe them out before putting the drops/ cream in there. It usually clears up in a day or two.
  17. My old dog had bad skin allergies. I took her to a naturopathic vet and the first thing she did was change her diet away from chicken. I cooked squash and ground turkey for her for 3 years and put her on chinese herbs. It kept the allergies to a minimum until she died later of cancer at 13 and 1/2.

    Sounds like the ear problem is a yeast infection. Treat it as such (a certain ear wash for her ears 2x/day + an oral med), then get an ear wash for her a couple times a week. Learn how to do it. There is a certain way so that as you rub around the ear with the wash in you actually feel/hear a kind of "pop" that tells you it got into the area it needs to.

    edit: after reading the thread, blufferchic got to the info I gave. I'll just say I agree with her on all accounts, but as the ear is already infected (may have been allergy related), you need to treat the symptom aggressively. Ear infections are horribly painful for a dog.
    Edited By: userid363 Sep 19th, 2011 at 10:06 PM
  18. could be a few things.one of mine just had a mild yeast ear infection just needed antibiotic then fine.he also doesn't handle grains and corn in dog food well gives him the runs.fish based dog food helped.also tried different tick medicine this year and both dogs had bad reaction to it all itchy for couple of days until washed off

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