Originally Posted by Prestonluv

I believe you are severly overrating their players. The freshman are good,...but not Anthony Davis good and any team relying on freshmen usually runs into trouble in the dance (UK last year was an anomaly). The Wear twins are servicable. Outside of that they have very little. Howland has struggled to mesh any kind of talent the last 3-4 years. Its as simple as this. If Josh Smith is in good shape by the end of the year (which he wont be). Than they can make a run in the tourney. UCLA final 4 hopes live and die with him. W/O him they will be a 7-11 seed regardless of the freshmen.

^ This

PJ Hairston is going to go OFF this year. That is all.

Also, Illinois does not have the best backcourt or returning backcourt in the Big Ten.

I'll take:

Indiana's with Hulls/Ferrell and Oladipo
MSU's with Appling and freshman Gary Harris
Michigan's with Burke and Hardaway Jr.

etc

I think its only natural if ku takes a step back. That team had no business in making the title game but self is just a beast of a coach. Dude developes bigs like no other. Self knows we're no good right now and lack toughness but his method should have them peaking come tourney time as is his forte. We'll see what this teams peak can produce.

Im a big fan or Releford as well I think this KU squad come february will be a togh one to beat especially if whitey is much better offensiveley as Self says he is

Pluv- would you agree that overall it's a down year talent wise for college basketball?

I believe it will be a lot better talent wise in 2013.

 

Originally Posted by BigStack Husker

Pluv- would you agree that overall it's a down year talent wise for college basketball?

I believe it will be a lot better talent wise in 2013.

I'm not Pluv but i definately would say without a doubt its a down yr talent wise just due to the fact last year was so stocked caused by the lockout. Add in the fact the probably top recruit who was supposed to be in this class went a year early to Uconn and is now in the NBA. That being said why i love college so much theres always a story to find out there from a place you never expected. Who will be this season's South Dakota st

 

Originally Posted by JRoth15

IU ranked #1...down year for college hoops

lololol

Illinois not even sniffing around the top 25 this year, just as they aren't a top 25 program.

Indiana has the talent, the experience, the youth/swagger and as Seth Davis said: "Their depth has depth."

It's going to be a fun year.

 

Originally Posted by tmac456

just as they aren't a top 25 program.

If I was bored at work, I'd search back through your posts from the thread last year which said the exact opposite.

You and Sara Bareilles are dead to me...bitch.

I actually didn't end up going to the game...so I guess it's a good thing you didn't introduce yourself as XXEDPXX from PocketFives Off Topic forum lol.

I was going to go...but we had a family get together in Springfield on Saturday...I had to drive my wife and little one back to Quincy, then would have had to drive down to STL on Sunday morning...and drive back Sunday night.

I just had my brother-in-law sell them for face value, and figured we'd go to a game later in the year.

How was the game? ARodg is pretty amazing...

 

Originally Posted by JRoth15

I actually didn't end up going to the game...so I guess it's a good thing you didn't introduce yourself as XXEDPXX from PocketFives Off Topic forum lol.

I was going to go...but we had a family get together in Springfield on Saturday...I had to drive my wife and little one back to Quincy, then would have had to drive down to STL on Sunday morning...and drive back Sunday night.

I just had my brother-in-law sell them for face value, and figured we'd go to a game later in the year.

How was the game? ARodg is pretty amazing...

It was a good game. St Louis stayed in it but you never really felt like they were actually gonna pull it out or had any real chance. Rodgers destroyed them. Felt like they converted 70% of their third downs. I wouldn't have introduced myself anyway. I'm a pretty introverted person. Pretty sure I've played poker at Lumiere with MUPP before and never said anything to him. I don't think he would recognize my sn anyway.

Haven't heard or seen anything about this kid until just now. Class of 2013. He's only been playing for about a year.



Looks pretty good. Maybe Kansas is the front runner for him, but too early to tell.

 

Originally Posted by warden

he's really good but he's really really dumb

also nick johnson will still destroy him

Idk, I heard him on the radio. He didn't sound dumb. I know his grades sucked and all.

 

Originally Posted by Justman

Tons of hype for Jahii Carson here. Is he really that good?

I can comment on i IQ

However, when you think of athleticism. He reminds me a little of Nate Robinson

 

Originally Posted by kellykip

Pluv - what's your take on St. Johns and Iona?

Lavin has not proven himself to be a good in game coach anywhere. With a young team thats a problem. .500 season is my best guess. He has had some turnover on his team as well. I am rooting for him to succeed but i would not get my hopes up.

I saw an NBA pre season stat line the other night...it read something like this.

MP: 20
ASS: 7
Name: Scott Machado

I think that will sum up Iona this year. They will have some talent with Momo and Armand...but i dont expect much. Maybe a CBI visit and 2nd in their conference at best. Loyola MD with take the MAAC

 

Originally Posted by BigStack Husker

Pluv- would you agree that overall it's a down year talent wise for college basketball?

I believe it will be a lot better talent wise in 2013.

Yes, and the freshmen talent in 2013 will be much deeper. You had many players returning last year on Kentucky, Ohio State and UNC to name a few. They are gone now. There are few true freshman phenoms this year. Maybe 2 or 3. Therefore many will stay for their sophomore year..combine that will a great 2013 class and next year should be fun.

 

Originally Posted by jtown1010

Good post PLuv, I've been slacking on my CBB research in the offseason so I don't know much about this season.

How is Carolina looking after losing so much talent? If McAdoo and Hairston can take big leaps forward do you guys think they are capable of a sweet-16 run? I think Reggie Bullock will step up this year and lead the offense, he was really turning it on late last season.

Anyway thanks for the post, always fun reading these.

Carolina lost a ton. Probably more than anyone outside of UK. McAdoo has got high praise...but honestly i was not super impressed by him when he did play last year. I think UNC will be good as usual with all the talent they have. I just dont see any eyepoppers on their team. No distributor like a Marshall as well. If i had to guess right now i would say a 6 or 7 seed.

 

Originally Posted by Prestonluv

4. MISSOURI: I really dont want to go into too much detail on this. I have little faith in haith :) .

cheap laughs gonna cheap laughs, you're better than this. I have a feeling Mizzou is here only so you could use that line.

oh yeah, Mizzou Junior Guard Phil Pressey voted pre-season SEC POY. Dixon now has a new chip on his shoulder, like last year not being a starter, he'll be first team SEC for the season.

nice thread, good stuff OP.