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  1. One of my friends came over yesterday and I tried out his portable vaporizers. It was by a brand called "Omicron" and looked very similar to one of these:



    Anyway, it's basically the size and shape of a ballpoint pen, and it just has this little button on the middle of it that you press, and you suck on one end of it while pressing the button and it creates marijuana vapor.

    I tried it out a few times over the course of a few hours and it was pretty neat. The high was more mellow/less harsh than regular weed smoked from a glasspipe, kind of a slightly different type of high even, not just milder (per hit I mean (like, if you take enough hits you still can get as high as you want even with this vaporizer thing), but a different style of high sort of.

    Anyway, the cool thing was, unlike with regular weed, which tends to intensify my pain disorder, this stuff didn't cause that, it just felt like a nice pleasant high but didn't worsen my pain problems or anything.

    From what I understand, it has a small cartridge in it that has hash oil in it, and then it has a (battery powered) heating element in it that heats the oil up to vaporization point or something, but not combustion, so you inhale just the weed vapor, instead of smoke (just like with a volcano vaporizer but in a much smaller more portable kind of device I guess).

    The only thing that kind of worries me is if like, I mean, I dunno how much I trust these random weed accessory companies who make this type of shit, like, who knows if they maybe have some shit inside of the cartridge that is bad for you when it gets heated up, like, in addition to the hash oil in there, if maybe there's some plastic stuff or I dunno that somehow is bad when you use this thing, without anyone realizing it, because these are small companies who I'm guessing never did any rigorous testing and studies to make absolutely sure it's totally safe, is my only concern I guess.

    I'm debating maybe getting a medical prescription for weed from one of my doctors and then getting one of these things, legally, (since I live in California).

    Just wondering if any of you have tried these types of miniature pen-style vaporizers before, or if any of you have much experience or knowledge about them, etc
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  2. they're pretty money. in addition to being better for you, the "smoke" also doesn't smell like weed so thats a plus. you sure about that hash oil thing? seems weird/illegal.

    also, DEF go get a card. its beyond easy. i moved out here from Virginia, and i woke up one morning and decided i was gonna try to get my card. i went to the dmv, showed them nothing but my passport, was given a CA ID before I walked out, and then went to the "weed doctor" and had a year prescription within an hour.
     
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  3. My buddy takes his inside Texans games and hits it while we are sitting in our seats
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    Originally Posted by clemsonrich View Post

    they're pretty money. in addition to being better for you, the "smoke" also doesn't smell like weed so thats a plus. you sure about that hash oil thing? seems weird/illegal.

    also, DEF go get a card. its beyond easy. i moved out here from Virginia, and i woke up one morning and decided i was gonna try to get my card. i went to the dmv, showed them nothing but my passport, was given a CA ID before I walked out, and then went to the "weed doctor" and had a year prescription within an hour.

    Well, the thing is, I have a nerve disorder that gives me stabbing pains in my pelvis, so, I have a pain management doctor (who prescribes oxycontin for me for my pain (I don't abuse it or use it recreationally or anything, I've been taking it as prescribed for like the past year, so it's just strong enough to kill my pain, but not strong enough that I get all sloshed or drooling or anything like that, like, I'm totally sober/alert/functioning on the dosage I'm on, since it's the minimum dose to get pain relief but not any higher than that).

    So, the thing is, I remember when I first started with this pain management doctor I had to fill out some forms, and on the forms one of the things was something like "Do you abuse marijuana?" and there was another part was like "I agree to be urine tested at any random time to check that there are no narcotics in my urine (marijuana included), and if they ever piss test me and find that I have illegal narcotics (other than the oxycontin that's prescribed to me I mean), then I will be red flagged and not allowed to recieve narcotic pain medication ever again in the United States.

    So, I'm not really sure how it works. Like, I'm not sure if if I have a medical prescription for weed, then they can't red flag me when weed shows up in my piss test, to make me not be allowed to get oxycontin prescribed for my pain disorder anymore, or if they still would or what. And then I'm worried about asking my pain management doctor about it, since, if he isn't a doctor who is in favor of medical marijuana, he might just immed think of me as a drug abuser for even brining the topic up and ban me from my pain meds or some shit. So, it's kind of a weird situation. Like, my urologist, smart guy, has an office in an upscale area, lots of rich/upper class patients (basically one of the top/most respected urologists in los angeles) told me straight up on one of the first times I went to see him he was like "By the way have you ever tried marijuana to see if it helps you pain condition at all? Because I can prescribe that medically for you if you'd like to try it. Some patients experience some relief from it, other's don't, but it's worth a try if you want to try." And I was like "Well, I've smoked weed before, but, as soon as I started having this pain disorder, then every time I smoked weed it just made my pain way worse (this was before I ever tried a vaporizer, which seems to not increase my pain at all, for whatever reason, which I only just tried yesterday for the first time)". So, in any case, obviously I'm sure that guy would be willing to prescribe it, I'm basically just worried about how it would play out with my pain management doctor, cuz if my pain management doc turns out to not be ok with it or something, then he could just red flag me just like that and then boom, I'd have to go move to a different country or some shit just to be able to get pain meds prescribed for my pain disorder, which would be pretty awful if that happened.

    So, it's kind of a tricky situation I guess, iono :(
    Edited By: bfactor Sep 18th, 2011 at 10:50 PM
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  5. No but I've used one of these and they are pretty sweet:





    You heat a rock which indirectly heats the herb. It isn't exact and it is possible to burn the weed if you heat it too much, but if your careful its pretty clutch and vaps like a champ.
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    Originally Posted by bfactor View Post

    So, the thing is, I remember when I first started with this pain management doctor I had to fill out some forms, and on the forms one of the things was something like "Do you abuse marijuana?" and there was another part was like "I agree to be urine tested at any random time to check that there are no narcotics in my urine (marijuana included), and if they ever piss test me and find that I have illegal narcotics (other than the oxycontin that's prescribed to me I mean), then I will be red flagged and not allowed to recieve narcotic pain medication ever again in the United States.

    What kind of fucking fascist bullshit is this? Are you serious? And this is the government that liberals are crawling over each other to give even more power to?

    I'd find a dealer loooooooong before I ever signed anything like that.
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  7. It's a pretty standard thing for pain management offices from what I've seen. So far I've only been to two different pain management doctors in the past 3 years, and both of them both had a form like that. I like my previous doc better (and I think he would've been ok with me getting a medical weed prescrioption in addition to my normal pain meds), but, I switched to a new pain management doc cuz the other one was like an hour and a half away from where I live, each way, so, since car rides are like the worst thing ever for me pain-wise, then, I wanted to go to someone nearer by, but then, this new pain management doctor that I go to who is much closer to me is kind of an asshole and all our sessions are always just awkward and weird, so I'm worried about even bringing the topic up with him, since he seems like a really uptight/anti-marijuana type of guy sorta.

    Sigh. Sflame that it's not jut legalized so I wouldn't even have to worry about all this shit. bleh
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  8. Dopers gonna dope...
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    Originally Posted by Magnet Steve View Post

    What kind of fucking fascist bullshit is this? Are you serious? And this is the government that liberals are crawling over each other to give even more power to?

    I'd find a dealer loooooooong before I ever signed anything like that.

    Hey my wife is a nurse and worked in a doctors office for awhile. They had to drug test most patients to make sure they were actually taking their medication and not selling it on the street. You know since most of them are on public aid and getting their drugs for free. Everyone has to suffer because of people who abuse the system. She said they would have to report stuff like meth heroin or cocaine but let marijuana pass everytime. I know not everywhere is the same, we are in Illinois fwiw.

    let me clear real quick by what i mean when i say report...they didnt call the cops or anything like that, the doctor would usually stop seeing the person and they would be in their system
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  10. iVapor is the NUTS. Had the pleasure of using one a few weeks ago and it changed my life. I am on a mission to get one. The device itself is readily available, but the hash-oil cartridges must be purchased from a medical vendor and they do not exist in MD.

    You just press a button and hit it. Very little smell, works instantly/easily and up to 100ish hits IIRC. Super discreet, no mess, shit is awesome.

    I have an Iolite portable vape that was awesome when I first got it, but this new shit blows it out of the water.
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  11. Yea the one I tried was exactly like that, just a different brand I think. It was pretty awesome.
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  12. This is the Magic Flight Launch Box. I don't use it tons ATM cause I have no reason to get high out and about but in casinos and traveling and general they're pretty legit.

    If that pen thing works as advertised though it may be better.
     
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  13. Yea, the thing I like about the pen thing is that, well first of all it just looks like a pen or something non-illegal like that, so you could literally just be like in the middle of a crowded shopping mall, and take a hit randomly and probly nobody would even have a clue what you just did, but even better still is that it doesn't even have like actual green ground up weed leafs in it the way the thing in that pic you showed has, like, instead it just has these little cartridges (sort of like a AAA battery, in terms of size/shape/look) and I guess all the shit is like all inside of the cartridge thingie, I think it has like hash oil in it or something, in any case, it's basically just toally all concealed and encapuslated, so it's not like there's any visible weed anywhere no matter what, even if you disassemble it, there still isn't, so, that's pretty cool (in terms of taking it out in public I mean).

    Personally tho i don't even care that much about that aspect of it, mainly I just like that it is a very mellow type of high that actually feels good to me, and it's like even easier to control exactly how high I want to get with it, cuz the increments of highness are a little lower per hit with it than with regular weed, so you can control your high to like, the exact amount you want, and get no more/less high than you exactly want to be.
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  14. It is noticeably bigger than one of those electronic cigarettes? if they're similar, then this is awesome. could be sittin in a bar, casino, hell even a stadium and "hey look, just an electric cigarette, NBD" and everything's cool
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  15. have you ever been drug tested by your pain management peeps?
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  16. Yes. Only once so far (and I passed, since I hadn't smoked any weed for like a year prior to that, when that happened)
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  17.  
    Originally Posted by SmokeyCasinos View Post

    Dopers gonna dope...

    what does this even mean and what are your intentions behind posting it?
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  18. I recommend it
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    Originally Posted by satchmo View Post

    It is noticeably bigger than one of those electronic cigarettes? if they're similar, then this is awesome. could be sittin in a bar, casino, hell even a stadium and "hey look, just an electric cigarette, NBD" and everything's cool

    It's pretty much just like the electronic cigarettes. The one I tried yesterday looked like the ones in the picture that I posted in the OP. It's kind of hard to tell in the picture how small they are, cuz they didn't put anything next to it like a coin or a dollar bill or something to give you something to see its size relative to, but yea, it's pretty sick, it's literally just like the same size and shape as a ballpoint pen (the fancy ones that doctors/rich people use like mont blanc or whatever, not one of those disposable bic pens, but still, it's pretty damn small for what it is tho. And it doesn't have any marijuana-shit visible in it, even if you took it apart, there's no marijuana bud in it, it just has like a tiny metal cannister in it that looks like an AAA-battery in size/shape/look, so there's not even any actual visible green bud anywhere in it, since it uses like a has oil canister or something for how it works.
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  20. Haven't seen one of the cigarette type vaps but rumor has it that these one's are pretty good for a low cost / portable medical device ...

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  21. The one I used yesterday was almost exactly like this one:



    ^^^The thing in this video is an "ivapor"^^^ which is very very similar to the one I used. The one I used was an "Omicron", it's a different brand from the ivapor, but they look almost identical. I think the omicron was even a little smaller/slimmer than the ivapor in this vid, and also, it didn't have that bright light glowing like the ivapor that he showed in that vid, and it holds like 400 hits instead of 90 (supposedly), but basically the same thing as far as the device or whatever, they look almost identical to the one I tried yesterday.
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  22. bfactor, you should talk to your pain management doc, but bring up the issue in the context of "my urologiest told me that marijuana might be a good treatment option and that I would qualify for a card. do you think it might help, and how would it affect my oxy treatment as I saw I'm not allowed to combine narcotics"

    that way it looks like you are being an astute patient asking the right questions about proposed treatments (which you are, in reality) without arousing much suspicion
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    Originally Posted by Magnet Steve View Post

    What kind of fucking fascist bullshit is this? Are you serious? And this is the government that liberals are crawling over each other to give even more power to?

    I'd find a dealer loooooooong before I ever signed anything like that.

    If you weren't aware of the way our government has been going after so called "pill factories" then you've been missing a lot. From what I've read they have shut down numerous clinics simply based upon volume. Because of this, existing clinics are fearful of prosecution for doing their jobs. I bet that form they make bfactor sign didn't exist in any of these clinics 20 years ago. It sucks when the government is so bought in to the War on Drugs that it causes some of its sickest citizens to have to put up with even more pain than they would if the government would just leave us the fuck alone.
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    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    If you weren't aware of the way our government has been going after so called "pill factories" then you've been missing a lot. From what I've read they have shut down numerous clinics simply based upon volume. Because of this, existing clinics are fearful of prosecution for doing their jobs. I bet that form they make bfactor sign didn't exist in any of these clinics 20 years ago. It sucks when the government is so bought in to the War on Drugs that it causes some of its sickest citizens to have to put up with even more pain than they would if the government would just leave us the fuck alone.

    So because some really sick person is inconvenienced by having to pee in a cup we should allow fraud to happen without some sort of oversight? Im sorry but I have a hard time with people who go to clinics or doctors and lie to get free pills off public aid just to turn around and sell them on the street. Which they usually just turn around and go buy other drugs with that money. They sure as hell dont need groceries cause they have food stamps or Link card or whatever.

    My guess is in your perfect world Dyz people would just pay out of their pockets and then could do whatever they fuck they wanted to with their pills. Thats fine and dandy but we are a long way from something like that in this country...like never.
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    Originally Posted by cmval View Post

    So because some really sick person is inconvenienced by having to pee in a cup we should allow fraud to happen without some sort of oversight? Im sorry but I have a hard time with people who go to clinics or doctors and lie to get free pills off public aid just to turn around and sell them on the street. Which they usually just turn around and go buy other drugs with that money. They sure as hell dont need groceries cause they have food stamps or Link card or whatever.

    My guess is in your perfect world Dyz people would just pay out of their pockets and then could do whatever they fuck they wanted to with their pills. Thats fine and dandy but we are a long way from something like that in this country...like never.

    Actually in my "perfect world" you could grow your own opium in your backyard and make or have made the painkillers you require for getting through your life mostly free of pain. I bet it would make healthcare just a bit cheaper, yeah? But even without my perfect world, I don't give a fuck how much someone is getting and selling. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. History has examples of governments failing over and over to achieve the results they want from prohibition. History shows that governments are insane.
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  26. this thing looks pretty cool, compact. Since we are talking about vaporizers. I am selling my volcano analog vaporizer. PM me if you are interested.
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  27.  
    Originally Posted by SmokeyCasinos View Post

    Dopers gonna dope...

    doubt anyone under the age of 60 uses the word doper anymore

    judge not lest ye be judged, right? isn't that what your invisible father figure in the sky commands you to do?
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  28.  
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.


    looool @ using an AA/ NA quote in this particular discussion. One of the more idiotic cutesy ones, at that.

    (No, it's not actually an Albert Einstein quote<--preemptive)
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