<h4><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr valign="middle"><td rowspan="2" align="left" valign="top"> </td><td colspan="2" align="left"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td>Re:Is it possible for a girl to play MLB??? </td><td align="right" valign="middle">In reply to </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr><tr><td align="left">By TheWacoKidd on 05-19-2008 5:28 PM </td><td align="right">Reply Favorites </td></tr></tbody></table> </h4> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="100%" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td>between this thread, the Candace Parker thread and the Braun or Lowell thread, I'm about to quit fucking reading OT too... shit tilts me too much... how are ppl so fucking stupid? jeezuz
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I dunno a 5 minute mile is pretty nuts and you'd have to shave off 16-17% off of your best time when you were in college.

I kinda doubt you could get faster than a 5 minute mile regardless of the amount of training (not knocking you, just think it's unrealistic unless you're a gifted runner).

gl if you decide to go for it.

I'll take this bet

give me a month to train and i'll run sub 5 =)

ANNNNY TAKERS?

yeah i'll run it on the UNLV track, this is gotta be for some flow tho... lets get a couple G's on this

If u have 8 months and are willing to work hard it is very realistic.

No way in hell. Do not take the bet.

Not. A. Fucking. Prayer. I would even take this bet if you got to run each lap individually and cool off in between.

World record is 3 min 43 seconds

He already said that he can only do 7.5 minutes/mile.

In that case, no way in hell will he break a 5 minute mile with 8 months of training.

Also, it's not like it's a linear function. Going from 6 min/mile to a 5:30 mile is not the same as going from 5:30 to 5:00. It's exponentially harder to drop time as you approach that 5 min/mile mark. Getting under a 5 minute mile is truly elite. Unless he's genetically predisposed to running, he can train all he wants and won't ever get there. A) He won't put in the necessary time to get there and B) He just won't.

Just my opinion.

See, I think going from 5:30 to 5:00 would be the easiest part. Get to the point where you can run a 5:30-mile at least once a week, or at least accomplish it a few times.

(I imagine doing this on a treadmill would be substantially easier, where everything is controlled for you. You don't have to worry about slowing down or speeding up).

Then on the big day, just tell yourself you're running a 5:30 again, bump the speed up a few extra notches, and don't look down. And don't even think about it. It should still feel the same to your body, as long as in your head you're telling yourself there's nothing different.

And then in that last 30-45 seconds, increase the speed all the way to the max and tell yourself that you have a bet to win and you'll never have to go through this punishment ever again. That should be enough to carry you through the last 30 seconds.

(you would obviously need a treadmill that goes faster than 12 mph. I don't know if they exist. The ones i use max out at 12 mph)

edit: I dunno. I may be wrong in the way I'd go about it. I've never had any formal training or read any books. I just run. And I know for me it's not about pushing my body, but instead my mind.

whether it can be done or not, you are gonna have to put the time and effort into it to even have a shot.

i would research the net for running workouts and see if they are even practical for your current schedule/lifestyle. do you have access to a track? preferrably an all-weather track. a treadmill could help you out on a longer run but i think the fastest they go is 5 minutes/mile pace (not good for sprinting).

i would assume that you would need to go on long runs at least 3x a week. by long i mean around a half an hour at the least. depending on your pace, that should put you at 3-5 miles per run. this would build up your endurance so your body wouldn't be shocked by the 1 mile distance.

as someone said earlier, you would also need to work on your speed/speed endurance. i think you would do some sort of repeats or "ladders" for that.

by repeats i mean you could run a lap around the track (400m) at or faster than your desired speed (5 minute mile = 1:15 per lap; 18.75s per 100m) multiple times with short rests in between. this way you feel how fast you need to be going but aren't 100% recovered on every repetition.

by "ladders" i mean some variations of distances with breaks in between. like a 200-300-400-500-600-500-400-300-200 or something like that. these are not fun but will build your speed endurance.

also, try to get a friend to train with you. the hardest thing for me while competing was trying to work out when i was by myself. having someone there to compete with while practicing/training makes it easier to come back hard on the next rep/set.

*disclaimer: i was a decathlete in college and have NO IDEA how to properly train for distance events as the longest event i ran was the 1500m (just short of a mile). the workouts i felt that most prepared me for the 1500 were 3x or 4x 600m repeats at anywhere from 18-20 seconds per 100m. note that this was preparing me to run a 5:00 1500m, not a 5:00 1600 (mile). i started training in september and my fastest 1500s were always in may-june, so that is just about 8 months. i also weighed 190-195 at the time, so if you are lighter than that, i think it should be easier. my best time was 4:39 in the 1500m (18.6s/100m), so just below a 5 minute pace for the mile.

good luck.

This is going to be completely off subject but I feel like writing about it anyway. I've always wanted to write about this, but never had the platform to do it. So just ignore this if you don't want to read it.

The psychology of running is the hardest thing to get past. It's not about the endurance, or your body telling you to stop. It's your mind. I run 3.5 miles four times a week. I only run on a treadmill. But if you put me on a track and told me to run two miles, I don't even think I could do it. I hate running on a track, because you are always aware of how far you've gone, and how much farther you have to do. You can't take your attention away from it, because it's always there in front of you. Three laps feel like death when you realize you still have five laps to go.

That's why when I run on a treadmill, I don't look down at the display panel until I know I'm done. That's why you see some people cover it up with a towel or magazine. If you keep looking down at the distance or time, it'll take forever to get there (track theory). The only way I measure how far I go is by the music I'm listening to. And for the past year I've listened to the same five songs in exact order every time I've run. I have them set on their own individual playlist on my iPod.

My body and my mind are trained to finish once these songs are complete. The last song on the list - "Read My Mind" by The Killers - is the homestretch. Once I get to that point there's no stopping. It's the easiest 4:07 ever.

So if I want to add distance to my run, I'll start a song over about halfway through. Now consciously I know I've just added two minutes to my run by doing this, but because my body is trained to keep running until these songs are up, I don't realize it or it doesn't affect my overall mindset.

Sometimes I do it at random 2-3 times during a song (start it over) so that I won't even know how much time I've added. It doesn't affect me at all. As long as I get to the homestretch, I'm good. Then at the end of the run I'll look down and notice I've gone 4:15 longer than I normally do.

It's really just a big mind game in the end. It's not about the body. My body still hurts six minutes into every run, just like it did when I first starting running at the age of 16. It's never any different. It's just that now I've conditioned myself to get through these five songs, and pretty soon I hope to add a sixth.

I couldn't do it without the songs though. I once tried to run when I forgot my iPod at home and couldn't do it. I ran for what felt like 16 minutes, looked down at the display panel and saw that only 10 minutes had gone by, and completely lost my spirit.

I don't know if any of you are interested in getting into running, but this may be something you could try. Worked for me.

I think it is very improbable. I was a highschool cross country runner and my best mile was 5:01 now i hadnt trained to run the short distance of a mile but for u to move from a 7.5 to sub five is nearly impossible. just my thoughts good luck though

*edit*

as said earlier moving from 530-500 is way harder than 7-6, my training pace was about 6 min miles for 4-7 miles but to move down to run just that one mile below five was the hardest thing i have ever done/.

"The psychology of running is the hardest thing to get past. It's not about the endurance, or your body telling you to stop. It's your mind."

while this definitely can play a part, i'm pretty sure it's 95% about your conditioning. you could take the strongest-willed person in the world, but if they haven't trained in running at all (or built up their endurance at least somewhat), they will not be able to run a 5 minute mile.

chemical and physical reactions will take place in the body that the mind just won't be able to overcome without preparing it. lactic acid will build up in the muscles and the lack of oxygen to the lungs will cause them to hyperventilate in an attempt to get more oxygen in...also, in order for you to be able to mentally overcome something, the brain needs oxygen but probably won't be getting enough after running without any preparation.

Wow interesting post.

You're right...for the most part, running is more mental than physical. Obviously you can't just will yourself to run a 6 minute mile if your best ever is 8 minutes, but you can definitely learn to adapt to the pain and fight through it.

The funny thing is, I'm the exact opposite of you as far as running goes. You said you don't like to run on a track because you know how far you've gone and how much farther you have to go. For me, I HATE running on a treadmill. I don't like running according to time. I like to know that I have to go distance x and I keep track in my head as I'm going. For example, with the Army's PT test, we have to run 2 miles in a certain amount of time. The faster you run, the better your score. The 2 mile course where I worked was 1 mile out and 1 mile back. The .5 mile mark was noted on the road. So, I would run as hard as I could to that mark, make a mental note that I'm 25% complete, and then run as hard as I could to the mile turnaround. Then I knew i was 50% complete. I would then do the math in my head and figure that even though it sucks, I am over halfway done and the hard part has passed.

Also, I liked taking the 2 mile test in a group because I used to like passing people. It gave me motivation.

I can't run to time...only distance. Weird. Actually, now I can't run at all..i'm a turd.