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  1. This is a multiple choice question and there are only 2 possible answers.

    Al Gore is one of the following....

    A) An ExtraOrdinary Hippocrit: He preaches about how we humans are the main cause of global warming through are over consumption of energy or CO2. Then he single handidly produces an enormous amount of CO2 and energy through his use of a private jet and his inability to live in anything but a mansion.....just to name a few....he produces more energy than some entire col-de-sacs do.....

    B) An ExtraOrdinary Liar: He may very well not believe in what he preaches about man made global warming. This would make sense because of the vast amount of energy his family and himself produce. But, if this were true...this would make him a monumental liar....a person who is only in it for wealth and fame.....

    Which one is it? It has to be one or the other....any logical person would not have another option.......thanks....
  2. What does Extrodinary mean?
  3. Nobody loves Al.
  4. 650 Math
    375 Verbal

    for a reason
    Thread Starter
  5. not to rub it in, but you used "produce" where you mean "consume"
  6. sighhhhhhhhh now I want to know what a hippocrit is. :)
  7. lockbox
  8. no worries...the 375 was a much bigger rub in
    Thread Starter
  9. for those who need a decoder of the first paragraph:

    are=our

    consumption applies to energy, while production would apply to CO2

    hippocrit= a large amphibious rodent that feeds on hamburgers and fruit rollups, not to be confused w/ a human hypocrite

    col-de-sacs= a very chilly scrotum, not to be confused with a french term used for certain neighborhoods known as a cul-de-sac

    now for a response:

    I think you're taking him and his message much too literally. He teaches, not preaches, and if you asked I don't think he would ever claim to be highly eco-friendly with his lifestyle. Yes, he lives in a big house, travels in SUV's and jets, etc. etc. In all the interviews/documentaries I have seen Gore appears to be a very intelligent and humble person, who as mentioned attempts to bring about awareness through teaching, not preaching. Whether or not you believe in man made global warming isn't even the issue. He won his nobel prize because of his dedication to the environment, not becuase he himself lives in a yurt, grows his own food, and produces zero waste/emissions. Many of us who believe in what he is lecturing drive vehicles and fly in planes too. Some donate money, plant trees, volunteer time, or whatever to help offset our contribution to pollution. Others are able to live the ideal with less involvement in mainstream society.

    Nice thread though, really. You could work for Fox News with this type of one-sided garbage and horrible grammar.
  10. i was always told to practice what you preach..

    apparantely some people believe otherwise.
    Thread Starter
  11. sigh.

    so in order to spread his message/perform his lecture he should swim from continent to continent, and once there refuse the local consulate's bullet proof SUV's, insisting on a bullet proof toyota prius?

    you're cliches are wonderful, but if you bother to look a little past what he travels and lives in, you'd see that his impact regarding the environment is a positive one.

    Everybody does what they can, how and when they can.

    Your apparent approach of "if you can't do it 100% then don't do it at all" is exactly why its so fucking difficult to get any positive change accomplished in this country
  12. its not just al gore. but i see your point. however, saving the environment is like making money. you gotta spend some, to make some. in this case, you have to ruin the environment to save it. sorta like a relationship. 'i hit you cause i love you'
  13.  
    Originally Posted by RonKarkovice View Post

    lockbox

    cosign
  14. Nobody listens to this guy. Google "Global warming swindle" and spend an hour of your time being thrown on your ass. You will never want to hear the phrase "Global warming" again.....such sickaments....
  15.  
    Originally Posted by PrestonLuv View Post

    i was always told to practice what you preach..

    apparantely some people believe otherwise.

    So do you REALLY think that his personal carbon usage isn't offset by the fact that he has used his power to champion environmentalism for decades at the highest levels of the US government [not to mention across the world]?
  16.  
    Originally Posted by PrestonLuv View Post

    i was always told to practice what you preach..

    apparantely some people believe otherwise.

    Pluv,

    I agree and disagree. I agree with you almost entirely that Al Gore, in spreading the gospel of being environmentally friendly, must be held to a higher standard than most in regards to energy consumption. Where I disagree with you is your assertion that his use of a private jet makes him a liar or a hypocrite. He is a national/global leader and one shouldn't have to travel via sailboat to get place to place. This is the same annoying argument that people make against environmentalists that drive cars. Yes cars pollute, but there is no other real efficient mode of medium range transportation other than driving a car (there are hybrids for those that can afford them). If electric vehicles were available and affordable, then more environmentalists would but them given the choice. However, environmentalists have to go to work too so it is a catch 22. So his air travel doesn't make him a hypocrite simply because he needs to get place to place as a leader on the issue. Forcing environmentalists to sail or take balloons or ride bicycles everywhere is absurd.

    As for his personal lifestyle and his home consumption - you are spot on. Shame on Al Gore!
  17.  
    Originally Posted by The ChAOS! View Post

    Nobody listens to this guy. Google "Global warming swindle" and spend an hour of your time being thrown on your ass. You will never want to hear the phrase "Global warming" again.....such sickaments....

    Ya science...that was so 10th grade. GG.
  18.  
    Originally Posted by p00pymcp00perton View Post

     
    Originally Posted by PrestonLuv View Post

    i was always told to practice what you preach..

    apparantely some people believe otherwise.

    Pluv,

    I agree and disagree. I agree with you almost entirely that Al Gore, in spreading the gospel of being environmentally friendly, must be held to a higher standard than most in regards to energy consumption. Where I disagree with you is your assertion that his use of a private jet makes him a liar or a hypocrite. He is a national/global leader and one shouldn't have to travel via sailboat to get place to place. This is the same annoying argument that people make against environmentalists that drive cars. Yes cars pollute, but there is no other real efficient mode of medium range transportation other than driving a car (there are hybrids for those that can afford them). If electric vehicles were available and affordable, then more environmentalists would but them given the choice. However, environmentalists have to go to work too so it is a catch 22. So his air travel doesn't make him a hypocrite simply because he needs to get place to place as a leader on the issue. Forcing environmentalists to sail or take balloons or ride bicycles everywhere is absurd.

    As for his personal lifestyle and his home consumption - you are spot on. Shame on Al Gore!

    So Al Gore has to fly in a private jet and can't take a commercial flight? Pluv has a legitimate point here and even recent uproar in Britain has caused some of the British politicians to reduce the use of private jets and switch to the use of commerical airliners.
  19.  
    Originally Posted by nowapowa View Post

     
    Originally Posted by PrestonLuv View Post

    i was always told to practice what you preach..

    apparantely some people believe otherwise.

    So do you REALLY think that his personal carbon usage isn't offset by the fact that he has used his power to champion environmentalism for decades at the highest levels of the US government [not to mention across the world]?

    It's okay to do evil as long as you offset it with good.

    Al Gore "champions" environmentalism for his own economic gain.

    This would be 100% great work if indeed he was simply making money off of promoting and supporting worthy environmental causes and efforts through his myriad of companies, however, the thing that makes Al Gore one of the biggest scumbags in our history is that he uses his power and influence to effectively and intentionally exaggerate and fabricate "global warming" claims to create unfounded fear, in order to accelerate investment in his companies.

    He has, in essence, created a phony market in all things which he claims to be necessary to stop global warming, when in fact there is no such thing.

    He's a snake oil salesman for the 21st century, selling cures to people for a disease they don't have.

    Despicable.
  20. fabricate "global warming"

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I remember a time when cigarette companies said that the lung cancer risks associated with cigarette smoke was mere fabrication too. GG Marlboro Man!
  21.  
    Originally Posted by p00pymcp00perton View Post


    fabricate "global warming"

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I remember a time when cigarette companies said that the lung cancer risks associated with cigarette smoke was mere fabrication too. GG Marlboro Man!

    How much of global warming can be attributed to human behavior? How do you know that the earth doesn't naturally go through heating and cooling phases despite what human behavior occurs?
  22.  
    Originally Posted by p00pymcp00perton View Post


    fabricate "global warming"

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I remember a time when cigarette companies said that the lung cancer risks associated with cigarette smoke was mere fabrication too. GG Marlboro Man!

    You mean the tobacco companies lied to make money off unsuspecting consumers?

    Hmmmmmmmm?

    If you truly believe that Al Gore has not exaggerated and lied with respect to many of the claims he has made about global warming there is nothing I can do to help you. There are volumes of material that document his deception.
  23.  
    Originally Posted by Seykota View Post

     
    Originally Posted by p00pymcp00perton View Post


    fabricate "global warming"

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I remember a time when cigarette companies said that the lung cancer risks associated with cigarette smoke was mere fabrication too. GG Marlboro Man!

    How much of global warming can be attributed to human behavior? How do you know that the earth doesn't naturally go through heating and cooling phases despite what human behavior occurs?

    How much of the global denying "scientists" budgets are comprised of grants and contributions from polluters like Exxon-Mobil? Its almost exactly the same tactics the cigarette companies used when fighting claims that smoking caused cancer - muddle the issue, then claim there are 2 sides the argument, and perhaps people will just argue about it forever and nothing will ever change.
  24.  
    Originally Posted by p00pymcp00perton View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Seykota View Post

     
    Originally Posted by p00pymcp00perton View Post


    fabricate "global warming"

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I remember a time when cigarette companies said that the lung cancer risks associated with cigarette smoke was mere fabrication too. GG Marlboro Man!

    How much of global warming can be attributed to human behavior? How do you know that the earth doesn't naturally go through heating and cooling phases despite what human behavior occurs?

    How much of the global denying "scientists" budgets are comprised of grants and contributions from polluters like Exxon-Mobil? Its almost exactly the same tactics the cigarette companies used when fighting claims that smoking caused cancer - muddle the issue, then claim there are 2 sides the argument, and perhaps people will just argue about it forever and nothing will ever change.

    Are you implying that there is no financial reward in perpetuating the global warming myth?

    I have no doubt that there are whores on both sides and there there are honest people on both sides. My reasoned opinion, after due consideration of the available facts, is that there is no global warming and even if there is a relatively small spike in the earth's temperature, it has absolutely nothing to do with man made CO2 emissions.
  25.  
    Originally Posted by Willywoo View Post

     
    Originally Posted by p00pymcp00perton View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Seykota View Post

     
    Originally Posted by p00pymcp00perton View Post


    fabricate "global warming"

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I remember a time when cigarette companies said that the lung cancer risks associated with cigarette smoke was mere fabrication too. GG Marlboro Man!

    How much of global warming can be attributed to human behavior? How do you know that the earth doesn't naturally go through heating and cooling phases despite what human behavior occurs?

    How much of the global denying "scientists" budgets are comprised of grants and contributions from polluters like Exxon-Mobil? Its almost exactly the same tactics the cigarette companies used when fighting claims that smoking caused cancer - muddle the issue, then claim there are 2 sides the argument, and perhaps people will just argue about it forever and nothing will ever change.

    Are you implying that there is no financial reward in perpetuating the global warming myth?

    Not a myth - the world is warming. In fact this is where I find things hilarious. At first the world wasn't warming according to critics. Then, the jury was out on global warming. Now, the world is warming but its not human cause. Bleh - all BS man.
    As for financial reward - absolutely there is money to be made from technology to combat global warming. But there is more reward for energy companies to keep the status quo than to change. This is why they are actively financing global warming deniers.
  26. But there is more reward for energy companies to keep the status quo than to change.

    This is a ridiculous statement. I cite T. Boone Pickens as example number 1.

    Some examples of big oil investment in alternative energy are BP and Chevron as well as just about every major oil company except Exxon.

    I could care less about whether they invest in alternative energy or not. What they invest in has no effect on whether global warming exists or doesn't exist.
  27. PLuv, do you tell your kids not to use swear words?

    Do you swear?

    Hypocrite.
     
  28.  
    Originally Posted by Willywoo View Post

    But there is more reward for energy companies to keep the status quo than to change.

    This is a ridiculous statement. I cite T. Boone Pickens as example number 1.

    I forgot...T. Boone Pickens is an energy company and not a person. At least he believes in the truth as long as you are talking swift boats.

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