Originally Posted by stackinsideways

well that doesnt sound as cool as I imagined at all. guess Im not missing out on much.

do you not have any stoner looking co-workers that you can ask? I know being new at a job is kinda touchy but after a few weeks you should be able to pick out who might smoke and who for sure doesnt. I mean there has to be atleast 1 "yung" person there right?

I start Monday. I know there is at least one young person that works there but I am not going to be bringing it up anytime soon. I will wait and see how it goes. Its a lot of older ppl.

 

Originally Posted by UncleLeo

lol @ trying to quit weed being a problem, try quitting a real drug.

lolz.

I didn't dream (or didn't remember them) when I was smoking heavily for a couple years. When I cleaned up they started again. Looked into it, and it seemed that there was a connection between the two. The novelty of dreaming nightly was one thing that got me through the first couple weeks.

I would say that weed is addictive, whether it be mental or physical. After the first couple nights w/o weed, I started getting the sweats, couldn't sleep, etc.

Agree with spending time doing physical activities, working out. Glglgl

Was multiple times a day smoker for about 4 years then quit smoking daily about a yr and a half ago. Did not smoke for about 4 months after I stopped and the dreams are amazing. I seriously would get high in my dreams when I would have a dream were I smoked. Then when I woke up I would feel high for about ~5 min. I shit you not. Felt so good. Now I will blaze maybe 2-3 times a month and it is so much more enjoyable and I get that giggly high off a couple hits. Not like when I was smoking 5 blunts of good a day and just feeling 'normal'.

+1 to feeling so much more clear minded after you have been off it for about a month. You dont realize it when smoking daily until you stop its like the fog clears. Moderation blazing FTW.

 

Originally Posted by theredbaron

been chronic for 15 years or so and have also recently been thinking of quitting. My biggest reason is I actually feel more burned out than I used to. Cant stay up very late at all and always need a nap before going out. Do the people that quit think that they have more energy or motivation to do things or are you just more clear headed like others are saying?

i thought weed made me forgetful and tired.

turns out im just forgetful and fall asleep easily.

 

Originally Posted by Prestonluv

mental addictions do exist.

definitely not saying otherwise. i'm saying it isn't physically addictive. by no means am i saying that weed only has positive effects, and i'm not saying it isn't psychologically addictive (not at all).

 

Originally Posted by warden

definitely not saying otherwise. i'm saying it isn't physically addictive. by no means am i saying that weed only has positive effects, and i'm not saying it isn't psychologically addictive (not at all).

I really don't understand this. Whats the difference between a physical addiction and a mental addiction if both have physical withdrawal symptoms? I got the exact same thing as waco said when I quit. Couldn't sleep or eat (in fact even a few bites of food would make me vomit) and had cold sweats.

 

Originally Posted by Prestonluv

mental addictions do exist.

I have seen people with physical withdrawals.....from the sweats to sleep problems. those are physical.

keep up the good fight tho

with your logic it should be as easy as quitting eating your favorite chip. it should be a piece of cake that one rarely thinks about after quitting. not sure which science you reference but anything you put in your body on a daily basis that gives you an altered state of mind........will have withdrawal symptoms if u stop cold turkey. apparantely weed is exempt from this logic

whatever science u use is wrong I have seen and know many people who have had physical withdrawals from pot.

maybe not the extreme ones other drugs have...but withdrawals nonetheless

I stopped about 2.5 months ago to pass a piss test...I had no physical withdrawals...obv I want to smoke every day...but physical withdrawals? maybe those same people you are talking about were also mixing some crack in with their ganja...

nvm, never really thought about sleep changes...I actually sleep more and have problems getting up now...should be reversed I would think? but then again, quitting has made me more depressed at times which is mental and may have caused my physical change? fuck, no clue...

 

Originally Posted by Prestonluv

Different people's body react in different ways.

Its also dependent on the amount of the drug used.

Like Jester said...some people bodies are just wired differently. maybe you could smoke everyday for 5 years and show no symptoms...but someone who smokes every other day for 2 years might show signs. Its pretty much the same thing with all drugs. Different people react in different ways.

smoked basically every day for almost 8 years...and quit cold turkey. obv people react diff ways...I used to drink 3-4 times a week and quit cold turkey about 4 years ago and had no physical problems either tho...except smoking more, lol

 

Originally Posted by watson5j

smoked basically every day for almost 8 years...and quit cold turkey. obv people react diff ways...I used to drink 3-4 times a week and quit cold turkey about 4 years ago and had no physical problems either tho...except smoking more, lol

Your bloodlines are most likely pre disposed to using drugs and alcohol. For example...the Irish tend to have higher tolerances and there bodies can take years of abuse before they physical wear down.

Where as people with Scandanavian bloodlines tend to have bodies that break down faster physical when abusing drugs and alcohol.

This has nothing to do with addiction..it just has to do with certain bloodlines can withstand drugs and alcohol better based on centuries of their ancestors use.

 

Originally Posted by watson5j

I believe I am german-scottish...my grandfather was an alcoholic...and I have a slightly addictive personality...

I dont doubt some people have withdrawals like stated...just never experienced it or seen it before...I was also thinking about physical withdrawals from alcohol dependency and things like coke or heroin withdrawals...not things like my stomach gets upset easier or I have a tougher time sleeping...

Some of the W/D stories i have heard are fucking absurd. They are like dreams in real life. Think of a strange dream you had where you see fucked up shit. well..some of the people with really bad withdrawals see this type of shit in real life. Thats why many are strapped down or put in an insane asylum.

Meth is a crazy drug...the late stage meth users take this shit and stay up 5 to 10 days str8 sometimes. Whats f'd up is that is not actually the drug that causes them to start hallucinating things. Its that they have been up so long there body just gets all fucked up. They body is awake but their mind is asleep and they start dreaming IRL.

I suggest some of you go to some sort of treatment center where they allow you in to hear the stories. Honestly...you would laugh hard much of the time and then be scared shitless the other times. Its very entertaining to say the least. That is until you realize that many of the people you see in that room will not live another 10 years.

Quit blazing 1 1/2 years ago after smoking for 7+ years. Best decision ever. Being all there, and not being dependent on something is great, esp after being sky high for that long. It's amazing to think how unproductive you are when your smoking daily.

Not trying to knock those who do smoke, that's just my honest opinion. Some are more productive then others. Unfortunately I'm not one of them.

P.S. When it comes time to light up every so often it blows your mind.

GL

Smoked for fiveish years quit three years ago.

No physical withdrawals at all. First few months did think about it quite a bit but after a while you get use to it and just block it out your mind.

And pluv the debate between a physical and mental induced physical withdrawal is uninteresting debate.

But a physical can be traced to an imbalance in the body caused by the drug or something within said drug. Mentally induced physical cannot be traced to the drug or something within the drug through tests.

Also I laugh at people who say they changed because of smoking weed when really they are just using it as a scalegoat for themselves. Pot makes you lazy? Really I had a bunch of friends after getting blazed would go play tennis or some other physical activity mine was golf. It may enhance your own basic personality that would be an interesting study. But lazy people gonna be lazy and active people gonna be active. Pot itself I never saw take an active person and make them lazy.

Also to irritation yea that's true your fuse will be shorter. But energy wise I dunno depends on how you were.

 

Originally Posted by tekiller

Smoked for fiveish years quit three years ago.

No physical withdrawals at all. First few months did think about it quite a bit but after a while you get use to it and just block it out your mind.

And pluv the debate between a physical and mental induced physical withdrawal is uninteresting debate.

But a physical can be traced to an imbalance in the body caused by the drug or something within said drug. Mentally induced physical cannot be traced to the drug or something within the drug through tests.

Also I laugh at people who say they changed because of smoking weed when really they are just using it as a scalegoat for themselves. Pot makes you lazy? Really I had a bunch of friends after getting blazed would go play tennis or some other physical activity mine was golf. It may enhance your own basic personality that would be an interesting study. But lazy people gonna be lazy and active people gonna be active. Pot itself I never saw take an active person and make them lazy.

Also to irritation yea that's true your fuse will be shorter. But energy wise I dunno depends on how you were.

Different people react differently...i know many people who were not lazy..but then would roast up and sit in a room watching dazed and confused and eating pizza.

Just cause your friends were active doesnt mean everyone works that way.