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  1. thereraise thereraise is offline

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    May 27th, 2011 (5/27/2011 8:26pm)

    I am pretty close (i think) to getting this wine job that I really really want, and it sounded like I had the job locked up week and a half ago. I took a trip back to Michigan for the last 7 days, and right before i left the manager sent me an email that the trip fell at a bad time and cant hire me at the moment but to contact him as soon as I get back. Well I get up today and he called me, which has to be a good sign. However, instead of just hiring me, he is asking for references now. Not sure why he didnt ask for them at the interview or in our numerous email/phone conversations but whatever, he mentioned something about hiring some more new people so now Im probly competing against these people. I was really hoping I could just get this job without all the formal hiring stuff to gain some recent useable work experience.

    Thing is I have no real recent work experience, to list as a references at least, and now I am not sure what to do. The two jobs I listed were from 7+yrs ago, before i went to college, so those are probly useless. Cant really just makeup references so any idea on what to do here? How many references is a manager looking for and do they have to be from work experience? What is the etiquette for listing a person as your reference as well?

    I do have my sommelier instructor as one good reference tho, so theres always that.
  2. norcaljeff norcaljeff is offline 2010 OT Thread Kill Leader

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    May 27th, 2011 (5/27/2011 8:30pm) in reply to thereraise

    anyone you worked for (yeah, saw the 7 years)
    any teachers? that would be good

    maybe a parent's friend or something. someone who knows you and will vouch. and preferably is successful. "He drives me to get my county check and then to AA" prolly won't help lol.

    I've even put friends/roommates

    glglgl
  3. quietwinner quietwinner is offline

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    May 27th, 2011 (5/27/2011 8:31pm) in reply to norcaljeff

    i would probably use college professors and anything else along those lines. Obv not for your BS class, but your like 3 and 400 level classes that you did well in and maybe knew the teacher on a personal level

    ps. i havnt had a job or applied in 4 or 5 years, just probably what i would do in your shoes
     
  4. Glo4m Glo4m is offline Confess to me

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    May 27th, 2011 (5/27/2011 8:32pm) in reply to norcaljeff

     
    Originally Posted by norcaljeff View Post

    anyone you worked for (yeah, saw the 7 years)
    any teachers? that would be good

    maybe a parent's friend or something. someone who knows you and will vouch. and preferably is successful. "He drives me to get my county check and then to AA" prolly won't help lol.

    I've even put friends/roommates

    glglgl

    Yes, you can use "character" references which are just your friends or parents friends. Do you have any buddies that are Drs or lawyers?
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    May 27th, 2011 (5/27/2011 8:34pm) in reply to Glo4m

    I'd list 2-3 people.

    As for etiquette, you always need to ask the reference permission, and inform them that they will be receiving a call. If you get the job, be sure to thank your reference.

    As for who...if they hired you based on work experience, I'd try to locate your bosses from the two previous jobs. Besides that, possibly one of your college teachers? Or maybe a colleague in a similar field?
     
  6. thereraise thereraise is offline

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    May 27th, 2011 (5/27/2011 8:37pm) in reply to Paki_Poker

    Most of buddies are in the finance accounting fields, wouldnt trust any of my friends as a doctor lol

    Maybe the professor route might work. Trying to figure out who I would use right now, been awhile since I was a state. Probly just shoot em an email giving them a heads up they may be contacted
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    May 27th, 2011 (5/27/2011 8:39pm) in reply to Glo4m

     
    Originally Posted by Glo4m View Post

    Yes, you can use "character" references which are just your friends or parents friends. Do you have any buddies that are Drs or lawyers?

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    May 27th, 2011 (5/27/2011 8:41pm) in reply to norcaljeff

    Put me down, I'm kind of a big deal
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    May 27th, 2011 (5/27/2011 8:42pm) in reply to Glo4m

    FWIW I'm not certain he wants work references he clearly seen your work experience. you wine guy and maybe an old prof or two possibly an old family friend
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    May 27th, 2011 (5/27/2011 9:36pm) in reply to Popperhead

    thx guys, went with my wine guy an old manger i found and one from MSU

    lets just hope it works, but such bad timing on the friday before the memorial day long weekend.

    one time for real this time. I really want this job

    and edit: not sure where dams post went but it was a good "reference" lol
    Edited By: thereraise May 27th, 2011 at 09:38 PM
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    May 27th, 2011 (5/27/2011 9:38pm) in reply to thereraise

    im pulling for you bro, tons of respect for your expansive wine knowledge
    Edited By: Glo4m May 27th, 2011 at 09:38 PM
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    May 27th, 2011 (5/27/2011 9:39pm) in reply to Glo4m

     
    Originally Posted by Glo4m View Post

    im pulling for you bro, tons of respect for your expansive wine knowledge

    thx man, appreciate it
    Edited By: thereraise May 27th, 2011 at 09:40 PM
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    May 27th, 2011 (5/27/2011 9:41pm) in reply to thereraise

    get a good character reference..
    write your own reference also...who knows you and ur abilities better then you.
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    May 27th, 2011 (5/27/2011 9:44pm) in reply to PANTERA

    Good news is if he's asking for references then it's your job to lose.

    Teachers are a great reference if you haven't worked for 7 years. Wine guy you know would work. Any family friend who's got a power job with a good title whom can hype you up never hurts either.

    I always thought references were a joke. Who the hell is going to put down someone who isn't going to hype you up? I guess if you're references are all drinking buddies you got troubles but even my old drinking buddies can lie with the best of them.

    Good luck!
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